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Wow. I hope we aren't throwing in the towel on Chump Care. (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2017 OP
Some people in our party think Pelosi poses a greater danger than this health care bill. LonePirate Jun 2017 #1
And Pelosi's replacement will be treated less harshly by Republicans? dalton99a Jun 2017 #2
Bannon Theory. NCTraveler Jun 2017 #3
Am I wrong in believing this bill can be stopped? DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2017 #4
Yes. Repubs will cave without major bill changes so it reaches 50 votes for the Pence tiebreaker. LonePirate Jun 2017 #5
A interview with Harry Reids Cheif Aide last night Wellstone ruled Jun 2017 #6
The only chance we have to stop this is by citizens of AK, ME and NV bombarding their senators. LonePirate Jun 2017 #7
Not going to happen. Wellstone ruled Jun 2017 #8
The Turtle will give two waivers to the most vulnerable senators. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2017 #9
Heller and Capito will probably be the two allowed to vote no. geek tragedy Jun 2017 #10
Capito will vote Yes because her deep red state will re-elect her regardless of her vote. LonePirate Jun 2017 #11
we'll see--WV is extremely vulnerable to Medicaid cuts. Very rural, very poor, opioids really a geek tragedy Jun 2017 #14
Repubs care more about getting re-elected than helping their vulnerable constituents. LonePirate Jun 2017 #15
I agree it won't happen. My suggestion is almost the only path to an unlikely miracle No vote. LonePirate Jun 2017 #13
The Republicans will fall in line and it will pass oberliner Jun 2017 #12

LonePirate

(13,386 posts)
1. Some people in our party think Pelosi poses a greater danger than this health care bill.
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 11:41 AM
Jun 2017

I think those people do not have a firm grasp on reality and priorities.

dalton99a

(81,073 posts)
2. And Pelosi's replacement will be treated less harshly by Republicans?
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 11:43 AM
Jun 2017

What the fuck are they thinking?

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
3. Bannon Theory.
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 11:45 AM
Jun 2017

The party and structures must be destroyed in order to then create utopia.

They are absolute fools.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
6. A interview with Harry Reids Cheif Aide last night
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 12:03 PM
Jun 2017

pretty much nailed this ugly thing down. He said this deal with the 4 so called hold outs is all about once they get their piece of the action(means a Check of sizable amount)they will vote for this. He came out and called it for what it is,bog and pony show,the deal was done on Thursday and the Vote will be next Thursday and the House will rubber stamp this Thursday Night or Friday Morning.

LonePirate

(13,386 posts)
7. The only chance we have to stop this is by citizens of AK, ME and NV bombarding their senators.
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 12:07 PM
Jun 2017

Moving Murkowski, Collins and Heller to the permanent No category is all that will stop this bill. It's up to the citizens of those states to persuade them.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
8. Not going to happen.
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 12:13 PM
Jun 2017

Thought the same up till last night. When I caught the Interview with Harry Reids top aide confirmed it was a done deal. Known this Fellow to be a straight shooter. When the Adelson Checks hit their desks,their votes change to a hard yes.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,705 posts)
9. The Turtle will give two waivers to the most vulnerable senators.
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 12:32 PM
Jun 2017

Why would he ask Heller to walk the plank if he doesn't have to ?

Ryan did that in the House.

BTW, Ralston thinks Heller is a no. That guy has great political instincts.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
10. Heller and Capito will probably be the two allowed to vote no.
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 12:35 PM
Jun 2017

Collins will cave as she always does, Murkowski voted to gut Obamacare in 2015 so she's a cinch to go along.

LonePirate

(13,386 posts)
11. Capito will vote Yes because her deep red state will re-elect her regardless of her vote.
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 12:40 PM
Jun 2017

Flake or Gardner are more likely to vote No than Capito.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
14. we'll see--WV is extremely vulnerable to Medicaid cuts. Very rural, very poor, opioids really a
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 12:46 PM
Jun 2017

crisis there.

Flake is a fairly honorable guy, but he's very conservative and is a lock to vote for it. Ditto Gardner, except for the honorable part.

I would say Murkowski is more likely to vote no than Gardner or Flake, and she's 95% sure to vote yes.



LonePirate

(13,386 posts)
15. Repubs care more about getting re-elected than helping their vulnerable constituents.
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 01:22 PM
Jun 2017

Heller and Flake have tough re-elections coming in '18 and Gardner in '20. They are susceptible to pressure from their voters. Capito is a guaranteed lock to be re-elected no matter how she votes.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
12. The Republicans will fall in line and it will pass
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 12:41 PM
Jun 2017

They have good party discipline when it comes down to it.

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