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geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 12:47 PM Jun 2017

Sandoval and Heller (GOP gov and Senator from NV) holding Medicaid press conference today

It sounds like Heller will be one of two GOP Senators given permission to vote no.

Heller is up for re-election in 2018, and would be guaranteeing a loss if he voted for it.


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Sandoval and Heller (GOP gov and Senator from NV) holding Medicaid press conference today (Original Post) geek tragedy Jun 2017 OP
Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski need to join as well La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2017 #1
Murkowski voted for the 2015 Obamacare repeal bill in the Senate. geek tragedy Jun 2017 #2
none of these people are moderates, it's more about their likelihood of losing their seat La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2017 #4
Maine didn't expand Medicaid (they elected Paul LePage--twice) geek tragedy Jun 2017 #5
Now some of the GOP complaints are fixable. I heard Collins say she would Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2017 #10
their so-called moderates always cave. geek tragedy Jun 2017 #11
+1 Completely agree with that. OnDoutside Jun 2017 #6
Trumpcaretoolkit.org Sienna86 Jun 2017 #3
We as a State have a 1.6 Billion dollar Wellstone ruled Jun 2017 #7
did that really happen? did someone say two will be given a pass to vote no? Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2017 #8
it's a basic assumption. geek tragedy Jun 2017 #9
got it ! duh moment :) Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2017 #14
I don't think Heller would automatically lose Awsi Dooger Jun 2017 #12
Heller came out against the bill. geek tragedy Jun 2017 #13
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
2. Murkowski voted for the 2015 Obamacare repeal bill in the Senate.
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 12:51 PM
Jun 2017

But, it's possible she'll get the other permission slip to vote against it.

Collins is a fraud, a fake moderate. Very good bet she'll vote yes.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
4. none of these people are moderates, it's more about their likelihood of losing their seat
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 12:56 PM
Jun 2017

because of devastation to state budgets

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
5. Maine didn't expand Medicaid (they elected Paul LePage--twice)
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 12:59 PM
Jun 2017

So Collins's political vulnerability is overstated.

Murkowski is a lot more vulnerable. Rand Paul should be, but (begrudgingly to his credit) he is a true believer and is probably not going to take electoral consequences under consideration when voting.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
10. Now some of the GOP complaints are fixable. I heard Collins say she would
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 01:10 PM
Jun 2017

not vote for a bill that will cut 20+mm out. That is not nor will be fixable. Doesn't she equate to a NO because of that?

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
11. their so-called moderates always cave.
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 02:21 PM
Jun 2017

"Something something Obamacare is collapsing something something we need to do something."

Her statement at face-value would make her a no, but we saw how this played out in the House.


"No, no, no, no okay fine yes."

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
7. We as a State have a 1.6 Billion dollar
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 01:04 PM
Jun 2017

Tax abatement deal with Tesla,and if California goes Single Payer,Sandoval and Heller will be eat Sj*t for lunch when these jobs go back to California.

These two Guy's owe their jobs to Adelson and Wynn,yes they think by letting Heller cast his No vote will save his sorry butt. The SEIU and the other Unions will eat these Guy's up. Adelson runs non Union Properties and all bets are off.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
9. it's a basic assumption.
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 01:10 PM
Jun 2017

unpopular bill that they perceive as needing to pass=only 50 will be asked to vote for it. The two most vulnerable to losing their seats would be given a pass to save their own hides.

Vote counting like this is generally the rule.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
12. I don't think Heller would automatically lose
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 03:00 PM
Jun 2017

Nevada midterms are considerably more friendly to Republicans than presidential cycles. The so-called cow counties turn out dependably while Clark County falls off.

Dean Heller is kind of like John Ensign type who looks the part, can feign moderate, and hang around as long as he likes, minus self implosion. I think he would narrowly prevail even if he backed the bill. A nutcase like Sharron Angle nearly took away Reid's seat in 2010 during a midterm cycle.

There isn't a superstar Democratic nominee. Muddled possibilities, lots of names who would be giving up situations that are currently favorable or that they seem happy with. Many of them lost major statewide races in 2014 or earlier. If I had to pick someone if would be Ross Miller, who was considered a rising star with long term likelihood until he lost in a huge upset during the 2014 midterm debacle. The problem with Ross is that he is making money outside politics now and seems content, unlike somebody like Danny Tarkanian the Republican stiff who shows up dependably for every open race and loses again and again.

There was a poll a week or so ago with a generic Democrat leading Heller by 7%. That no doubt is the reason the GOP is concerned about doing anything to weaken Heller.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
13. Heller came out against the bill.
Fri Jun 23, 2017, 03:25 PM
Jun 2017

The Reid machine and horrible effect this bill would have on Nevadans were powerful motivators

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