HomeLatest ThreadsGreatest ThreadsForums & GroupsMy SubscriptionsMy Posts
DU Home » Latest Threads » Forums & Groups » Main » General Discussion (Forum) » Sandoval and Heller (GOP ...

Fri Jun 23, 2017, 12:47 PM

 

Sandoval and Heller (GOP gov and Senator from NV) holding Medicaid press conference today

It sounds like Heller will be one of two GOP Senators given permission to vote no.

Heller is up for re-election in 2018, and would be guaranteeing a loss if he voted for it.


14 replies, 2199 views

Reply to this thread

Back to top Alert abuse

Always highlight: 10 newest replies | Replies posted after I mark a forum
Replies to this discussion thread
Arrow 14 replies Author Time Post
Reply Sandoval and Heller (GOP gov and Senator from NV) holding Medicaid press conference today (Original post)
geek tragedy Jun 2017 OP
La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2017 #1
geek tragedy Jun 2017 #2
La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2017 #4
geek tragedy Jun 2017 #5
Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2017 #10
geek tragedy Jun 2017 #11
OnDoutside Jun 2017 #6
Sienna86 Jun 2017 #3
Wellstone ruled Jun 2017 #7
Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2017 #8
geek tragedy Jun 2017 #9
Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2017 #14
Awsi Dooger Jun 2017 #12
geek tragedy Jun 2017 #13

Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Fri Jun 23, 2017, 12:49 PM

1. Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski need to join as well

 

alaska will be devastated if this bill passes

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to La Lioness Priyanka (Reply #1)

Fri Jun 23, 2017, 12:51 PM

2. Murkowski voted for the 2015 Obamacare repeal bill in the Senate.

 

But, it's possible she'll get the other permission slip to vote against it.

Collins is a fraud, a fake moderate. Very good bet she'll vote yes.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to geek tragedy (Reply #2)

Fri Jun 23, 2017, 12:56 PM

4. none of these people are moderates, it's more about their likelihood of losing their seat

 

because of devastation to state budgets

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to La Lioness Priyanka (Reply #4)

Fri Jun 23, 2017, 12:59 PM

5. Maine didn't expand Medicaid (they elected Paul LePage--twice)

 

So Collins's political vulnerability is overstated.

Murkowski is a lot more vulnerable. Rand Paul should be, but (begrudgingly to his credit) he is a true believer and is probably not going to take electoral consequences under consideration when voting.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to geek tragedy (Reply #5)

Fri Jun 23, 2017, 01:10 PM

10. Now some of the GOP complaints are fixable. I heard Collins say she would

not vote for a bill that will cut 20+mm out. That is not nor will be fixable. Doesn't she equate to a NO because of that?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #10)

Fri Jun 23, 2017, 02:21 PM

11. their so-called moderates always cave.

 

"Something something Obamacare is collapsing something something we need to do something."

Her statement at face-value would make her a no, but we saw how this played out in the House.


"No, no, no, no okay fine yes."

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to La Lioness Priyanka (Reply #4)

Fri Jun 23, 2017, 12:59 PM

6. +1 Completely agree with that.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Fri Jun 23, 2017, 12:55 PM

3. Trumpcaretoolkit.org

Just checked this out. Makes it easy to publicize the effect of this proposed bill.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Fri Jun 23, 2017, 01:04 PM

7. We as a State have a 1.6 Billion dollar

Tax abatement deal with Tesla,and if California goes Single Payer,Sandoval and Heller will be eat Sj*t for lunch when these jobs go back to California.

These two Guy's owe their jobs to Adelson and Wynn,yes they think by letting Heller cast his No vote will save his sorry butt. The SEIU and the other Unions will eat these Guy's up. Adelson runs non Union Properties and all bets are off.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Fri Jun 23, 2017, 01:08 PM

8. did that really happen? did someone say two will be given a pass to vote no?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #8)

Fri Jun 23, 2017, 01:10 PM

9. it's a basic assumption.

 

unpopular bill that they perceive as needing to pass=only 50 will be asked to vote for it. The two most vulnerable to losing their seats would be given a pass to save their own hides.

Vote counting like this is generally the rule.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to geek tragedy (Reply #9)

Fri Jun 23, 2017, 06:17 PM

14. got it ! duh moment :)

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Fri Jun 23, 2017, 03:00 PM

12. I don't think Heller would automatically lose

Nevada midterms are considerably more friendly to Republicans than presidential cycles. The so-called cow counties turn out dependably while Clark County falls off.

Dean Heller is kind of like John Ensign type who looks the part, can feign moderate, and hang around as long as he likes, minus self implosion. I think he would narrowly prevail even if he backed the bill. A nutcase like Sharron Angle nearly took away Reid's seat in 2010 during a midterm cycle.

There isn't a superstar Democratic nominee. Muddled possibilities, lots of names who would be giving up situations that are currently favorable or that they seem happy with. Many of them lost major statewide races in 2014 or earlier. If I had to pick someone if would be Ross Miller, who was considered a rising star with long term likelihood until he lost in a huge upset during the 2014 midterm debacle. The problem with Ross is that he is making money outside politics now and seems content, unlike somebody like Danny Tarkanian the Republican stiff who shows up dependably for every open race and loses again and again.

There was a poll a week or so ago with a generic Democrat leading Heller by 7%. That no doubt is the reason the GOP is concerned about doing anything to weaken Heller.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Awsi Dooger (Reply #12)

Fri Jun 23, 2017, 03:25 PM

13. Heller came out against the bill.

 

The Reid machine and horrible effect this bill would have on Nevadans were powerful motivators

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink

Reply to this thread