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TEB

(12,841 posts)
Sat Jun 24, 2017, 04:38 PM Jun 2017

My brother is marrying the Manchurian candidates daughter

My future sister in law and her family are as far right as you can get. My brothers future father in law said to me today well you are a liberal. well then mr liberal explain to me the difference between you and me supporting trump , I said it is simple about 50 IQ points.

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My brother is marrying the Manchurian candidates daughter (Original Post) TEB Jun 2017 OP
And you don't watch lying Fox News sharedvalues Jun 2017 #1
Billionaires are probably not stupid. They don't watch fux. erronis Jun 2017 #25
. roamer65 Jun 2017 #2
Now....try to get along for your brother's sake. You will never shange his mind and he will never napi21 Jun 2017 #3
Don't talk about politics, talk about the media who propagandized him sharedvalues Jun 2017 #7
I just never talk to my brother, much easier. n/t USALiberal Jun 2017 #15
Daughter married Reicht wing so called Christian lunatic and his family is alienating onecaliberal Jun 2017 #4
That is scary TEB Jun 2017 #8
Oh no! So sorry. Cult experts say it's important to intervene early sharedvalues Jun 2017 #11
She isn't talking to us now 2 months. We tried intervening. It only made her resent us more. onecaliberal Jun 2017 #18
Oh no, I'm so sorry sharedvalues Jun 2017 #33
She sent her father who had a life altering stroke in November a scathing email onecaliberal Jun 2017 #34
This may not help soon sharedvalues Jun 2017 #35
My son did that.... jimmil Jun 2017 #19
Sounds kind of like what happened to my younger brother over a period of cstanleytech Jun 2017 #20
That happens more often than not Warpy Jun 2017 #24
I've been there. Don't fight it and be prepared to be welcoming down the road. erronis Jun 2017 #27
The FIL sounds an awful lot like my father. teezy Jun 2017 #5
Give him the article abt fox host who admitted shows are scripted sharedvalues Jun 2017 #9
Yes correct he tried to crap on me over being union TEB Jun 2017 #14
Reminds me of an encounter I had with my maternal uncle awhile back. Different Drummer Jun 2017 #38
That's not good you just pissed them all off, it's only 30 points. juxtaposed Jun 2017 #6
Not to argue friend but we can agree to disagree lol TEB Jun 2017 #10
I do something even more infuriating when put into that position... Xolodno Jun 2017 #12
Great response. I don't know much about the bible but probably more than them. erronis Jun 2017 #28
Ultimately it's selfishness....and they want... Xolodno Jun 2017 #37
You were nice. It's got to be a whole lot more than 50. Vinca Jun 2017 #13
Did he know what you meant? n/t DFW Jun 2017 #16
Not sure if he understood friend TEB Jun 2017 #17
It's criminal for you, but not for Insurance Co CEOS? bettyellen Jun 2017 #29
I can't help myself. I need to know what his response was ProudLib72 Jun 2017 #21
"well, that's what limbaugh says, but the truth is..." certainot Jun 2017 #22
I have several decades of experience with these types. gordianot Jun 2017 #23
Wow, loved your reply. iluvtennis Jun 2017 #26
Well, that's off to a good start. mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2017 #30
The remake TEB Jun 2017 #31
Nice... lisa58 Jun 2017 #32
Oh, you're not going to be popular, but I like it. brush Jun 2017 #36

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
1. And you don't watch lying Fox News
Sat Jun 24, 2017, 04:42 PM
Jun 2017

And you're neither a billionaire, nor a sucker. So you can't be a republican.

erronis

(15,241 posts)
25. Billionaires are probably not stupid. They don't watch fux.
Sat Jun 24, 2017, 06:53 PM
Jun 2017

They may fund it, they may promote it, they may demean other news sources.

But only because it serves their pecuniary interests.

The rest are suckers.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
3. Now....try to get along for your brother's sake. You will never shange his mind and he will never
Sat Jun 24, 2017, 04:44 PM
Jun 2017

change yours, so for the sake of family peace, you both should consider politics off limits,

onecaliberal

(32,829 posts)
4. Daughter married Reicht wing so called Christian lunatic and his family is alienating
Sat Jun 24, 2017, 04:50 PM
Jun 2017

Her from us....

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
11. Oh no! So sorry. Cult experts say it's important to intervene early
Sat Jun 24, 2017, 05:00 PM
Jun 2017

And to bring new information to the table.

Give her articles about how the right lies to America to advance their agenda. It may work. Once she stops talking to you it may be too late. So sorry.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
33. Oh no, I'm so sorry
Sat Jun 24, 2017, 08:38 PM
Jun 2017

Honestly you may wish to get in touch with cult deprogrammers. They have experience working with scientology, moonies, other right-wing christian cults.

onecaliberal

(32,829 posts)
34. She sent her father who had a life altering stroke in November a scathing email
Sat Jun 24, 2017, 09:17 PM
Jun 2017

Chalk full of lies with childhood grievances. She was fine and very family oriented until she met this guy and his family. She hung on to us long enough to pay for her entire wedding furniture for her house and a myriad of other things. I have a 15 month old grandson that i miss desperately and am coming to grips with the fact that I likely will never know him. It's sad but I will not allow her to rip the rest of my family apart.

jimmil

(629 posts)
19. My son did that....
Sat Jun 24, 2017, 05:56 PM
Jun 2017

We rarely get to see them now. Hell, we even gave them a house and we never get to see it. It is really sad.

cstanleytech

(26,284 posts)
20. Sounds kind of like what happened to my younger brother over a period of
Sat Jun 24, 2017, 06:15 PM
Jun 2017

10+ years and the way he went from being a good son to our mother to treating her horribly before she died.
I can forgive him for it though because he was born with mental problems but I cannot forget it nor will I ever forgive the people that turned him against our mother.

Warpy

(111,249 posts)
24. That happens more often than not
Sat Jun 24, 2017, 06:32 PM
Jun 2017

unless you go all Emily Post on them at the beginning and refuse to discuss politics, religion, or sex. I'm doing that more and more.

I just don't want to know too much about acquaintances, especially ones I will see at family dinners on holidays.

erronis

(15,241 posts)
27. I've been there. Don't fight it and be prepared to be welcoming down the road.
Sat Jun 24, 2017, 06:56 PM
Jun 2017

Unfortunately most logic does not work and only forces them deeper into their hole. Usually with assistance from their minders.

If they can't find their way back to sanity by themselves it's better to get on with your life. Sorry.

teezy

(269 posts)
5. The FIL sounds an awful lot like my father.
Sat Jun 24, 2017, 04:55 PM
Jun 2017

He can't come to my house and NOT bring up politics. He can't NOT insult me for being liberal. His right-wing, InfoWars-infused world view (more like back yard view) tells him that making a point means alienating people and being cruel.

We're Canadian, but if my dad could have moved to the US and become American to vote for Trump, he would have.

And we haven't spoken in 7 months because some of his last words to me were, "It's people like you who are destroying this world" after he screamed at me about Clinton and I got up from the table and cleaned up after the THANKSGIVING DINNER we invited him to our home for, as he sat in a corner and pouted and threated to leave.

Nobody needs these abusive assholes in their lives. Nobody.

I'm glad you have some quips to throw back at him, because I think I remember a previous post of yours where he insulted you after you made him dinner. You have more restraint than I do.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
9. Give him the article abt fox host who admitted shows are scripted
Sat Jun 24, 2017, 04:58 PM
Jun 2017

You don't even need to say anything, just print and hand over the testimonial from the fox host who said their shows are scripted so liberals lose and Murdoch's agenda wins.
https://medium.com/@tobinsmith_95851/how-roger-ailes-fox-news-scammed-americas-la-z-boy-cowboys-for-21-years-1996ee4a6b3e


If you want, you could say "Fox News lies to benefit GOP billionaires", but it's not necessary.

Different Drummer

(7,614 posts)
38. Reminds me of an encounter I had with my maternal uncle awhile back.
Sun Jun 25, 2017, 02:57 PM
Jun 2017

He came for a visit and, while he was here, he went on a 20-30 minute rant about how greet Dolt 45 is and how he feels, essentially, that Hillary and Obama (or any Democrat, for that matter) are spawns of Satan. He expressed that POV knowing full well I am a Democrat. There were other people there, so I didn't have to respond to him and, in the name of maintaining family relations, I kept my mouth shut. However, I could feel my blood pressure rising as he went on his diatribe and, when I was finally alone, I took my blood pressure. Sure enough, it was high.

TEB

(12,841 posts)
10. Not to argue friend but we can agree to disagree lol
Sat Jun 24, 2017, 04:59 PM
Jun 2017

But after the trump rally in Iowa I think they trumptards are in de - evolution.

Xolodno

(6,390 posts)
12. I do something even more infuriating when put into that position...
Sat Jun 24, 2017, 05:30 PM
Jun 2017

..."Well you see, I'm actually a Christian and follow the teachings of Jesus".

That gets them red in the face. And given my knowledge of the Bible, and often they know how well I'm versed, they end up walking away.

erronis

(15,241 posts)
28. Great response. I don't know much about the bible but probably more than them.
Sat Jun 24, 2017, 06:59 PM
Jun 2017

And that's not really why they want to argue. It's not religion vs. religion. It's really just hatred of OTHERS.

Xolodno

(6,390 posts)
37. Ultimately it's selfishness....and they want...
Sun Jun 25, 2017, 02:40 PM
Jun 2017

...confirmation that their selfishness is ok and it makes the world a better place. But if you don't give it to them, then they get angry and hateful toward you. But in reality, they hate themselves but don't want to change. Much like the Biblical account where someone wanted to follow Christ, but he told him he should sell everything he had, donate it and follow him. But he had much wealth and couldn't bring himself to it. Thus the statement, its easier for a camel to go through the eye of the needle than a rich man enter heaven.

TEB

(12,841 posts)
17. Not sure if he understood friend
Sat Jun 24, 2017, 05:43 PM
Jun 2017

They came to visit once and her father made statement,it is criminal how much you union guys make. I let it slide well today they stopped and his future father in law the idiot started. I was not nice this time, and my brother knows me I do push back.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
21. I can't help myself. I need to know what his response was
Sat Jun 24, 2017, 06:23 PM
Jun 2017

Because I envision the typical right wing response of throwing punches.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
22. "well, that's what limbaugh says, but the truth is..."
Sat Jun 24, 2017, 06:26 PM
Jun 2017

i suggest you use that preface to your answers when responding to rw lies

gordianot

(15,237 posts)
23. I have several decades of experience with these types.
Sat Jun 24, 2017, 06:28 PM
Jun 2017

Ignoring works until the day they make a physical threat. On that day everything changes even if it is in your own house. I made it clear I did not want to clean the house in the aftermath have never spoken or seen them since except by a drive by.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,412 posts)
30. Well, that's off to a good start.
Sat Jun 24, 2017, 07:16 PM
Jun 2017

Thanksgiving is in just five months, too.

New one or old one? Manchurian Candidate, I mean. The Frank Sinatra version or the Denzel Washington version?

The remake is far more paranoid than the original.

TEB

(12,841 posts)
31. The remake
Sat Jun 24, 2017, 07:30 PM
Jun 2017

We liberals I'm quoting his words. Are in a coup against trump deep state , I said I hope you are correct as I'm a patriot
And it scares me. That forest trump and his crew have no desire to follow the constitution.

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