So after the anti-Pelosi, anti-Obama, and throwing Democrats under the bus, now I am seeing

[still_one]

how we aren't "sympathizing enough with those poor confused trump supporters"

Where the hell is this coming from?

[johnp3907]

1. Russia?

[still_one]

2. whatever or whoever it is, it sure isn't meant to unite Democrats.

[johnp3907]

6. I think most of it is meant to do just the opposite.

I don't believe most of the people making the "Trump supporters are decent people" posts are being honest.

[still_one]

13. I agree with that. Perhaps because they are have a difficult time admitting that people they

know and associate with, actually supported someone who campaigned for a racist, sexist, bigoted person.

[brer cat]

23. There is a lot of denial going around, still_one.

I suspect some of it is to avoid introspection: If my friend is a racist, sexist, bigot, what am I?

[still_one]

28. wow, that really says it all

[SleeplessinSoCal]

32. I missed the "Trump supporters are decent people" posts.

I do think that those still supporting and going along with his insanity are either very stubborn, stupid, bigoted, or doing so out of malice.

Some may only watch Fox News our of habit or need their propaganda to get through the day. Like drug addicts or Scientolgists.

On the odd chance they have seen the light, they may be Democrats at heart and have been brainwashed to never realize it. I believe about 8% of the voting population fits that description.

[Different Drummer]

57. Here's one.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=9249575

[SleeplessinSoCal]

66. Thank you very much.

I think the post is worthy of discussion without rage. Rage blinds us all.

[Mister Ed]

10. +1 n/t

[NRaleighLiberal]

3. baffling, that's for sure. gotta be nice. they are just confused. misguided.

I say bullshit. They knew exactly who they were voting for. They fell for the brainwashing. Sadly, they are taking us all down with them.

[cwydro]

4. I haven't seen that.

Certainly not here.

[sheshe2]

11. Ya, it is, cwydro.

Sad and true.

[hunter]

17. Try here:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029249575

[dalton99a]

5. So when do we start an Adopt-A-Deplorable program?

[still_one]

8. LOL

[leftofcool]

21. LOL

[StarryNite]

35. I don't know but

I think we will start seeing GoFundMe accounts opening in their names.

[SergeStorms]

39. Not until......

I get a sign along the road saying, "the next 5 miles of deplorables maintained by SergeStorms".

Really, most of these people do not want, or are beyond, help. Trumpism is a cult, and has too be treated as such. People just don't wake up one day and say, "gee, I was wrong about Trump all along". They have to be kidnapped and deprogrammed, just like cult members from any other deplorable cult. Without constant treatment and positive reinforcement they'll just return to the cult, as confused as ever.

[NastyRiffraff]

61. Good one!

[democratisphere]

7. Trolls engaged in Democratic destruction.

[HipChick]

15. This...DU seems overun with trolls of late..

[democratisphere]

19. Attacking, hacking and undermining our systems of government.

We're at war without bullets and bombs. Many Americans will become casualties.

[SergeStorms]

40. I don't know if they're trolls exactly.......

most have relatively high post counts. Remember, Democrats are considered "soft touches" by many, and I think some peoples' big hearts get in the way and prevent them from seeing clearly. Many Dems want to save everyone from the horrors of being a Republican, an will try to convert everyone they can. I'm of the belief that Trumpanzees are beyond help. Now, if they came to me begging to be "shown the light" I'd consider showing them what's under our "big tent", but without them asking for help, screw 'em.

[FarPoint]

81. Yes it is...

I don't see any relief either....Our jury system is equal to McDonald's at 2 am...

[FreepFryer]

9. IF all they do is gunk up the works, they are still doing something.

We need active moderation. Gloves off.

[elmac]

12. Not me

I have no use or contact with fascists. I won't throw Dems under the bus, will speak out if they do a stupid but won't harp on it.

[gordianot]

14. Amazing what a little trolling can do?

Cast doubt with some suggestions then discourage with innuendo. How do you think similar tactics work with willing deplorables? I am impressed.

[Wounded Bear]

16. Chaff...

chaff

noun

the husks of corn or other seed separated by winnowing or threshing.
synonyms: husks, hulls, pods, shells, bran, shucks
"separating the chaff from the grain"
chopped hay and straw used as fodder.
worthless things; trash.
synonyms: garbage, dross, rubbish, trash; More

Ignore the chaff, even around here.

[still_one]

18. good advice bear and as you said that can apply everywhere. Thanks

[certainot]

20. if you want to know what the russians are doing listen to some talk radio

[sheshe2]

41. Hell...

Just watch for tRumps tweets. He never knows when to STFU!!!

[we can do it]

22. Baffling bullshit by bots and bigots.

[Cha]

24. Fuck the Fuck OFF to the poor brainwashed

idiots who support the perverted asshole.

[vkkv]

25. Poor, STUPID Trump supporter sympathy??

I haven't seen any..

[nolabear]

26. I'm going to go all shrink on you.

There's a pretty good trope in psychology that there are two kinds of people in stressful situations, those who turn their emotions outward and those who turn them inward. The saying goes "Depression is rage turned inward."

I think people who are attracted to the Democratic Party tend to turn inward, to wonder what they (we) did wrong, how we can do better, etc. Those pulled toward being Republican, and in particular the kind of Republican that lets the fool in the WH get away with what he does, turn their anger outward and blame others. They feel wronged and they're fed up and they want to inflict pain, physical or psychological.

Bring those two together and you end up with all the negative attention focused on Dems. Only when the introspective types combine that introspection
with a no-negotiation set of standards can we find value in pushing forward hard enough to get things done in spite of being lambasted by the ragers.

[still_one]

29. That is a pretty neat analysis. The Democratic party is much more of an inclusive party

than the republican party, and that "bigger tent", leads to more difference of opinions

[nolabear]

55. Absolutely.

[betsuni]

27. K&R

[bresue]

30. Bernie says we should have done more...like what...slap them upside the head?

[Stonepounder]

31. It is coming from the GOP and from Russia.

The GOP is absolutely terrified of Pelosi remaining Speaker and so have launched a disinformation campaign. They know right down to that bottom of that vacuum in the middle of their chests that if Pelosi remains Speaker there is absolutely no fucking way they will hold Congress in 2018 and Putin knows it as well.

[Control-Z]

33. Russia and their American friends. n/t

[Mountain Mule]

34. Sympathy for the devil? I don't think so!

I have no sympathy for the people who voted in Twitler and his merry band who want to rob from the poor and give to the filthy rich. Those people are trying to kill me - I am a low income person with a disability and if that healthcare bill from hell goes thru, I and millions of other Americans will DIE! I'm not going to sugar coat this any longer.

However, I will say that we Dems should make an effort to draw more Independents into the fold and/or those who just sat the last election out. Of course they should have voted, but lecturing these people (not the Traitor and his base) will only serve to alienate them further. I think Dems should be open to constructive dialogue with those Americans who remain at least somewhat open. Die-hard Twitler fans? ABSOLUTELY NOT!

[dogandturtlemom]

36. Trolls

They want us to doubt ourselves. Gaslighting?

[calimary]

37. Directly out of some CON strategist's ass, perhaps?

[czarjak]

38. It's equating not changing your mind because you're right...

With not changing your mind because you won't admit to being wrong.

[PurgedVoter]

42. I am one of the ones you are talking about.

I don't think is does us any good to hate the common Republican. In fact the forces that are manipulating the Republicans want us to hate the common Republican. The powerful and evil bastards that pull the strings have always wanted us to hate each other.

It is those at the top that we need to remember at all times, are the enemy. Bernie know this. Hillary knows this. We need to remember this. Anger at the fools is useless. We need to aim higher.

[loyalsister]

47. + 1

Yes! It's a variation of the "those people" are stealing our jobs strategy.

[JustAnotherGen]

58. Hate is better than indifference

I'd rather be one of the silent minority "indifferents" than one who hates.

Those who hate assign humanity.

Folks like me say - The collective "It" is too wet to step on and too low to kick.

That's dangerous. However, it's a major election year here and we don't have time to play kissy face with people driving Porsches covered in Trump stickers. Mid November I can contemplate it but not now.

We have an evil presence we have an opportunity to crush.

Those who hate them are the hope. Dont fear their hate.

Try to understand it. Give them the same compassion you extend to Trumpsters.

[moonscape]

68. Our leadership is a mirror. They may not be reflecting me,

or anyone here, but they reflect enough of the country to make their existence possible. Without social prejudices, the message could not resonate no matter how much media manipulation there was.

Effective propaganda taps into those prejudices, uses them, and yes manipulates - but must have the raw material to work with.

This is not a case of evil leaders and hoards of victims, no matter how much you wish to separate the two.

[loyalsister]

43. Yeah doesn't everyone know

Don't more people finally realize that partisan hate and spite are US values?????
The attitudes toward politicians is nothing new. But turning on family, friends, and neighbors with hateful venom and wishing them harm is a disappointing display that rivals republicans demonization of liberals. "But we're right and they're wrong" does not make it a false equivalency. Hate is hate.

[Squinch]

44. It's not "We're right and they're wrong." It's more of "People are going to suffer and die

because of what they did. MY country is irreparably damaged because of what they did. I'm not going to make nice unless there is some assurance that they UNDERSTAND the pain their vote will bring and unless I get SOME assurance that they are not going to actively work to ruin my country again.

A vote for Trump and for this cruelty is a shameful thing. As yet there is no acknowledgment of that from the Trump voters.

I think it will come when they see that they themselves and their elderly loved ones and their children are hurt by their actions. But as yet, they still think the country's ills are all caused by the fact that a black guy was president.

[loyalsister]

46. So it's okay to watch people suffer

While you enjoy watching some people who voted for Trump get stomped on, you will be arm and arm with those who have wanted to gut programs that help people survive with a smile on your face. Signed, a Democratic member of the collateral damage that so many Democrats now want to see suffer.
Exactly like republicans who said "but we don't want to hurt people like you" when I tried to convince them not to support Medicaid cuts.

[Squinch]

48. You have decided that I "enjoy watching some people who voted for Trump get

stomped on." I certainly never said it, and it's certainly not true.

For you to say that I "enjoy watching people suffer" and that I am "arm and arm with those who have wanted to gut programs... with a smile on your face" is insulting and disgusting and it is exactly the opposite of what I have said. If you had any idea of anything about my life, you would understand what a shameful thing it is for you to have said that to me.

Get off your delusional high horse and stop making up asinine shit in your head to hurl at others. Maybe try reading what people are actually saying.

[Leith]

60. Putting Words in People's Mouths Is Another Form of Trolling

It happened to me the other day. We should call it out when we see it.

[Orrex]

45. Seriously?

Even before election night was over, I was seeing calls for us to "reach out to" and "empathize with" Trump voters. The smoke hadn't yet cleared, and already we were being told to move on.


Well, I decline to extend my hand to those idiot racist fuckheads. Every last one of them can go fuck themselves.

[Madam45for2923]

50. YES! If they voted they are adults-thus responsible for their choices & behavior. No need to coddle.

No excuses.

[Orrex]

51. Exactly.

As the "winning" party, it is their responsibility to "reach out to" us, and that means making a sincere effort to understand and empathize with our views.

Or, at least, that's what it means when Democrats win. Then we have to "reach out to" the same idiot racist fuckheads who want to vote women into chattel and who want to legislate bigotry and hatred. We *we* win, we're told that we must accept that others don't share our values. When *they* win, we're told that we have to accept that they won.

[Madam45for2923]

49. Cambridge Analytica meme memo of the day!

You forgot Cory Booker whose turn was a week or so ago.

[ck4829]

52. No mercy. The common Republican is capable of forming their own opinions.

Republicans weren't developed out of the Ludovico technique. Nobody blew pure scopalomine in their faces and told them who to hate.

When the narrative became public sector employees vs private sector employees, they went along with it. When it's Muslims vs non-Muslims, they went along with it, they were the ones going into Target stores screaming about the transgenders being deviant, and they became willing agents of creating a division of black lives matter being opposed to 'all lives matter'.

We need to out-organize them, we need to out-vote them, and we need to find ways outside of tainted elections when it comes to opposing them and mitigating their power. Period.

[NurseJackie]

53. "Where the hell is this coming from?" I know the answer. But it's too dangerous to say directly.

[MineralMan]

54. Shocking, isn't it? And folks seem to be falling for it.

Again. Sometimes I despair...

[Gothmog]

56. I was wondering the same thing

[floppyboo]

59. I'm a little bewildered.

Look back at the polls. When Hillary came out with the 'baskets of deplorables', she lost the election. Any effort to fix that tragic mis-speak can only be a good thing.

Here's a link to the LA times poll, which many poo-pooed as skewed to Trump, but proved to be the most accurate. Look what happens after the deplorable speech Sept.9 http://cesrusc.org/election/

[Leith]

62. Get Back to Us When

Any one of shitgibbon's insults come back to haunt him. I'd settle for him experiencing a slight setback.

Until then, deplorables deplorables deplorables!

[floppyboo]

64. I'm not a christian, but wow

I would never count out forgiving someone for falling for 'shitgibbons' (I'm guessing that's Trump) lies. Guess its the Metis in me. Talk about forgiveness and understanding. hrumph

[Leith]

67. I'm Not Unforgiving of Trump Voters

I just won't forgive one who continues the lies, excuses, and mindless attacks on liberals, Democrats, minorities, the poor, and so on. We have been urged to reach across the aisle, understand how they feel, and start the peace process with them. Many of us have done that and we have the scars to prove it. It's long past time for them to do some reaching out and understanding.

Can you explain how your capacity to forgive is due to your ethnicity?

[floppyboo]

73. "Can you explain how your capacity to forgive ..."

probably just would gunk up this thread - I intended to say, you don't need to be a Christian. Too much hypocrisy.

[floppyboo]

74. sorry to hear you have been scarred. Seriously. eom

[Squinch]

69. Are you bewildered? You don't seem bewildered. It seems very intentional,

your dropping this non-sequitur into this thread like this. Odd, but intentional.

[floppyboo]

72. um, no - and I don't understand why my point is considered tangental to you

I suppose I'm confused by the general tone of this thread which seems to equate reaching out to Trump supporters with supporting Trump. I don't think they are equivalent. There is so much ill will in this world.

[Squinch]

75. Ah, things are so confusing to you, aren't they?

[annabanana]

63. botskies & trollskies

Oh my

[Madam45for2923]

65. Yeah sure let's give them a chance, what have we got to lose, ain't that right?

Link to tweet

[Leith]

71. I LOVE That Cartoon!

I'm gonna add it to my collection. It takes an exceptionally good one for me to do that.

[Squinch]

70. Wow, still one, this thread really brought the nasties out of the woodwork!

It's like they saw your OP and sent out the bat signal.

They really want us to back down and act like nothing is happening, don't they?

[JNelson6563]

76. DU is infected.

And infested. I don't visit as I once did. It's sad to see.

[FarPoint]

82. I sure miss the good old days....

I don't know how to fix it....I miss the sincere open discussion...

[Demsrule86]

77. And how about all the low number posters who breathlessly announce either

the sky is falling;we are screwed...no reason to fight for the ACA or don't worry once the ACA is gone, we will get single payer. Both are wrong...and one wonders about motivation...beware DU,they are here!!!

[NCTraveler]

78. The same people who disiminated and drooled over HA Goodman. Nt

[FarPoint]

79. We don't have the senior members here anymore....

We are infiltrated by sly trolls.

[malaise]

80. I have a suggestion for them

Tell them to please fugg off

[SleeplessinSoCal]

83. WaPo has an opinion piece about the divide.

America is on its way to divorce court
http://wapo.st/2svuzTH

[GulfCoast66]

84. As predicted by many

The JPR have returned. It is amazing the number of members with post counts In the hundreds that post like they have been here forever. Many predicted it. They got tired of their love fest in Pine world.

That's where all the Bernie poster coming from.