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Ive taken some flack for dismissing Republican voters as irredeemable idiots. Ive been told that they are simply misguided, ill-informed, politically naive citizens who were inadvertently led astray.
Heres what it really comes down to ...
In November 2016, not only did Republicans vote against their own interests, they voted against the good Christian principles theyve been touting for decades. The same people who decried Michelle Obamas inappropriate behaviour for wearing sleeveless dresses (Oh my!!!) suddenly had no problem with a First Lady whose nude photos are all over the internet.
Republican church-goers suddenly decided that Trumps lack of church attendance was irrelevant, and that his pussy-grabbing remarks were simply good, clean, locker-room fun. The religious right suddenly determined that a thrice-married, self-proclaimed serial adulterer was an outstanding model of those good Christian family values they have longed-for in a president hallelujah, amen.
The so-called Christian leaders that Republicans adore the ones who berated Hillary for keeping her marriage together despite her husbands infidelities suddenly decided that a man who bragged endlessly about his (alleged) sexual conquests during his many marriages was chosen by God to lead the nation.
The Republican staunch patriots, who have always prided themselves on being champions of the middle-class, suddenly determined that a man who was involved in hundreds of lawsuits for cheating hard-working Americans out of their compensation for materials delivered and work done was a shining example of honest entrepreneurship not to mention being great POTUS material.
The GOP adherents, who never fail to boast of their unimpeachable honesty and integrity, suddenly realized that a proven liar was really just a misunderstood model citizen prone to inadvertently mis-stating facts repeatedly. And again. And yet again.
The truth is that the minute Trump called all Mexicans drug-smuggling rapists, all Muslims terrorists, all blacks inherently lazy, and openly mocked the disabled, he won the hearts (and votes) of every hypocritical Christian, every bigot, every racist, every misogynist in the country. Sadly, there are a lot of them and we now know who they are.
So spare me the excuses. Spare me the but, but, buts. Spare me the Im NOT a racist or a bigot comments that end in but I voted to put a racist/bigot in the White House anyway.
Stop telling me that Republican voters are good people who were led astray. They have the same access to facts that everyone else has but they chose to get their facts from FOX-News, Rush Limbaugh, and Alex Jones. They chose to ignore the hundreds of times Trumps lies were invariably exposed.
More to the point, they chose to completely abandon every virtue they ever laid claim to, every principle they ever boasted about, every value they proudly bragged made them superior to we godless liberals.
Those who voted for Trump are NOT to be excused as poor misguided, American patriots who were suddenly, last summer led astray by a fast-talking snake-oil salesman who showed up in town with snappy songs and dance numbers that dazzled the shit out of their collective ass.
They were led to vote for a racist, misogynistic, pussy-grabbing bigot because he represents everything they believe in, and everything they admire and everything they are just too spineless to admit to.
dhill926
(16,333 posts)repubs.....our father who art in heaven....hypocrisy be thy name...
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,560 posts)Cha
(297,029 posts)so .. they have no right to call themselves "Christians".
They're brainwashed hypocrites.
Mahalo, Nance
secondwind
(16,903 posts)DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)If they were deceived, it is because they believed what they were all to willing to believe. Therefore, when they suffer, we will NOT grieve.
brer cat
(24,544 posts)He told them what they wanted to hear. No excuses.
chillfactor
(7,573 posts)BigBearJohn
(11,410 posts)njhoneybadger
(3,910 posts)But what if we could get 3% of the least "deplorables"
to vote democratic
Different Drummer
(7,611 posts)stage left
(2,961 posts)Or a portion of them.
NBachers
(17,096 posts)Different Drummer
(7,611 posts)I'm old enough to remember a time when Republicans weren't as vicious as they have become.
Kath2
(3,074 posts)NanceGreggs, you couldn't be more on point!
sheshe2
(83,708 posts)Everything they need. He was so beautiful to them.
And we all suffer for it.
sheshe2
(83,708 posts)missingthebigdog
(1,233 posts)sheshe2
(83,708 posts)👍🏽
emulatorloo
(44,096 posts)calimary
(81,179 posts)mwdem
(4,031 posts)and I vomited in my mouth reading this, because it is so true!
SergeStorms
(19,190 posts)there is the "old guard" GOP that still adheres to those tenets you described. Then there are the TrumpGOPers. They're vulgar, unprincipled, totally uninformed, and have taken "nasty" to an art form. Right now I believe the TrumpGOPers are winning, but they haven't yet felt the full effects of being so outlandishly ignorant. Don't get me wrong, the leaders of the TrumpGOPers are intelligent and KNOW how to manipulate people. Ponder the master manipulators of the Nazis, and you have the TrumpGOPers.
Will the TrumpGOPers maintain their hold on the Republican party? I don't think so. Like I said, they haven't yet paid the price of being so willfully ignorant and destructive. They don't seem to have a "grand plan" yet that will seal the fate of the GOP forever. Right now they're content with destroying our system of government, content with enraging their followers into blind faith for them, but they haven't been held accountable to ANY of this. Yet. The bill WILL COME DUE once their followers discover they've been played. And that time might be sooner than we all think. Trump's "healthcare" plan (and yes, he OWNS it now!) will open up a lot of eyes in a hurry. Trump's priorities are quite skewed, and his promises to all the "deplorables" aren't coming as quickly as he promised, IF they come at all! He seems fixated on making the wealthy much wealthier, and it's his number one priority. The "healthcare" fiasco is nothing but an avenue to the money needed to pad the insatiable greed of his wealthy pals.
I think the "old guard" Republicans will regain control eventually, but the party will ALWAYS be tainted by the odor and greasy film left behind by having Trump's hands on the controls. This can only be good for Democrats, as long as we stick together and don't get stooopid.
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)Are you refering to McCain, McConnell, both of their wives were given jobs in the tRump administration, and others? Every last one of them sold their souls to this bright orange oaf. They KNEW about the Russian connections, and did nothing. No integrity in any of them. Face it, gop members are greedy, self important TRAITORS. Now they are getting what they have wanted for years. Higher taxes, no medical coverage, destroy all safety nets. I hope this orange mistake takes them ALL down with him.
SergeStorms
(19,190 posts)George Will and his cohorts.
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,853 posts)... this lengthy and interesting survey of Trump voters, voted overwhelmingly for Trump too. They comprised 56% of all his votes. They were his wealthiest, best educated and least racist voters who watch the least amount of TV.
Yet that GOP old guard is also the least likely, by far, to ever seek compromise with Democrats in Washington compared to the deplorable voters (called "American Preservationists" in the survey and comprising 20% of all his votes). The deplorable voters are also the least likely to want cuts to social programs.
The deplorable voters get more attention in the media and what they say is more offensive, but I still say that the old guard is the bigger enemy!
Link: https://www.voterstudygroup.org/reports/2016-elections/the-five-types-trump-voters
RVN VET71
(2,690 posts)None remain. There are no Jake Javitts's or Nelson Rockefellers, or John Lindsays, or Charles Goodells -- or, Abraham Lincolns or Teddy Roosevelts. Maybe Susan Collins might have found a seat at the old guard's table, but she would have been viewed suspiciously as a Republican with latent Goldwater tendencies.
The current GOP is replete with "Party First and Nation be Damned" representatives interested not in bettering the country and the lot of its citizens but in filling the already overflowing coffers of their patrons with the gold extracted from the rest of us. The goal of the GOP is to change the U.S. into a one-party nation -- and it has all but succeeded in that -- the better to funnel the nation's wealth to the super wealthy blood suckers who, in turn, keep them in office and provide them with highly paid sinecures when they leave office
There's nothing left of any reasonable, passionate, caring, capable old guard on which the GOP could build -- and if such Republicans existed today, they'd be excluded from the party and, most likely, wooed by the Democrats.
I will continue to vote Democratic, as long as I am permitted to do so without risk of bodily injury. But I am fearful that a tipping point has already been passed and McConnell, Ryan, Hatch, Pence and the other thanes and vassals of the 0.1% have unimpeachable control of the Federal government. We, the People, are screwed.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)burrowowl
(17,636 posts)donheld
(21,311 posts)You say what I have been thinking so much better than I ever could!
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)what, they will DIE hating the other "TEAM," the Democrats.
We heard this new "TEAM" phenomenon first under Reagan, when we had Olympic Games attendees from America chanting loudly and aggressively, "USA! USA!"
I'm not even kidding with that metaphor.
John1956PA
(2,654 posts)That was back when Iran had recently taken as hostages the Americans at the U.S. embassy in Tehran. I did not care for the chant back then, or when I subsequently heard it in sports telecasts.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Moscow Olympics. No "USA!" solidarity then!
The Wizard
(12,541 posts)cause them to believe rumors and innuendo about Hillary Clinton while ignoring the facts about Donald Trump. I can say without equivocating that I've shit canned some old friends because they revealed themselves as ignorant bigots by supporting the degenerate Trump. Life is too short to suffer fools.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)What Trump was running on...those were their main interests, as they saw it. Each of us gets to decide what our main interests are.
He was running on: jobs, anti-illegal immigration, repealing Obamacare & replacing with "something terrific", draining the swamp, "protecting" Social Security & Medicare & Medicaid, and big tax cuts. Those things were their interests, apparently.
Of course, they were stupid in believing the Liar in Chief.
But I do give people credit for knowing what their own interests are. Other people's interests aren't always what we think they would or should be.
I have a number of different interests. You might be surprised which one in any given year is top priority to me.
However, I am one who thinks it's possible that Trump did not win.
emulatorloo
(44,096 posts)Folks whose top concern was terrorism (Muslim ban) or immigration (The Wall and Mexican rapists) voted Trump.
That's in the exit polls. Have been studies lately that support that
I agree with you that it was more complicated but to me that's sorta the bottom line.
Additionally I know some moderate undecideds who went with Trump based on Comey letter.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)and environmental regs.
But whatever their concerns, they did vote for their primary interests. Others assume what should be the primary interests of others. But people vote according to their own interests, which are sometimes not clear to others. We have to prioritize our interests, too. So although someone may be concerned about jobs, the economy, the environment...sometimes the candidates mean he has to choose which interest matters most to him at this time.
I forgot about the Muslim thing. So it was the repeal of Obamacare (which was why Trump harped on repealing it on Day One), anti-illegal immigration, and middle class blue collar jobs (trade agreements, environmental regs), and anti-Muslim.
I keep seeing repeatedly that some Dems keep leaving out Obamacare in the mix. Obamacare repeal was very much front and center in the Trump campaign. As was the refugee thing (Muslim), and the anti-illegal immigration (mainly from Mexico). The jobs thing was important in certain states.
emulatorloo
(44,096 posts)Then after the election some Trump voters figured out that meant that meant their healthcare was being taken away.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Some were anger votes. But most I guess were just stupid or saw what they wanted to see.
joshdawg
(2,647 posts)Brava!
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)Greybnk48
(10,167 posts)I wish I could copy and share this on FaceBook. These words need to be seen far and wide.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,986 posts)Blatant hypocrites.
RoBear
(1,188 posts)Come on rethugs, insist on an apology for those remarks. I dare you. Cowards...
luvtheGWN
(1,336 posts)They are die-hard Republicans from way back. One of them (my nephew) began spouting crap he heard on Limbaugh via emails a few years ago. I shut him down, and when we meet at a family function, we studiously avoid politics.
I love these folks, but I tend to agree with Nance that, perhaps deep down and generally well-hidden, they really are racist bigots. I hate to claim that if they voted for Trump (and I know they did) that they also share his traits -- but maybe they do.
I guess there's a twist on the old saw......"By their politics shall ye know them"....
mnmoderatedem
(3,722 posts)The "support our military" militant right wingers sat back and did nothing, and said nothing when trumpie arrogantly exclaimed how John McCain "was not a war hero because he was shot down". As if five deferment donnie has one ounce of justification in making such comments, which of course were purely for his own political gain during the primaries. Hilary does that and she gets the Mussiloni treatment. trumpie does it and it's just the latest reason for right wingers to turn their heads and look the other way.
Patriotic republicans are curiously devoid of commentary whenever trumpie praises blood soaked dictators. Including cozying up to Putin during the campaign, praising the leadership skills of Putin, in comparison to a sitting president. Even as prez, when confronted with the fact that Putin is a killer, simply shrugs his shoulders and says, "do you think we're so innocent"? Must be nice to be a right winger, disparage your own country and have no backlash from your own base. Helps when your base is a bunch of mindless hypocrites.
GoCubsGo
(32,078 posts)Yep. Those "kind and gentle" people aren't as kind and gentle as you think they are.
nancy1942
(635 posts)Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)There you have it: the latter-day KGOP republicans.
rzemanfl
(29,556 posts)classof56
(5,376 posts)In fact, I am, at long last, an atheist. Self-proclaimed evangelical/fundamentalist "christian" tRump supporters make me physically ill. Quite the quantum leap for this life-long baptist. Took 70-+ years to get here. My Calvinist grandpappy might be turning over in his grave. Wouldn't bother me if he is. Took me a few decades to realize he was quite the hypocrite.
Anyway, thanks for your post. I've bookmarked it for future reference. Good job!
Ligyron
(7,622 posts)classof56
(5,376 posts)Nice to have the affirmation.
Gothmog
(145,046 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)I think it deserves to be.
mcar
(42,287 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)world wide wally
(21,739 posts)malaise
(268,845 posts)Rec #100
Different Drummer
(7,611 posts)shadowmayor
(1,325 posts)And they are deplorable.
mcar
(42,287 posts)Thank you, Nance!
ismnotwasm
(41,971 posts)They bought him--they own him.
lapucelle
(18,229 posts)"The so-called 'Christian leaders' that Republicans adore the ones who berated Hillary for keeping her marriage together despite her husbands infidelities suddenly decided that a man who bragged endlessly about his (alleged) sexual conquests during his many marriages was 'chosen by God to lead the nation.'"
How many "christians" faulted Mrs. Clinton for actually abiding by her wedding vows? That was her problem - she made promises and actually meant them and kept them.
Duppers
(28,117 posts)panader0
(25,816 posts)rock
(13,218 posts)Republicans are "whichever way the wind is blowing" type people.
Doreen
(11,686 posts)Christian god is a hateful god. I feel that other Christians have a good god teaching love. All of this crap is one of the reasons I chose Buddhism.
raging moderate
(4,296 posts)He bragged about his sexual assaults, which would be unlawful were it not for his billionaire status.
BSdetect
(8,998 posts)Heartstrings
(7,349 posts)BigOleDummy
(2,270 posts)And bears repeating.
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)I'm really sick of people telling me I should "reach out" to these morons because some of them are "really good people." Sorry. They may love their children and maybe give to charities, but if you vote for a bigot...you can finish the sentence.
DoctorJoJo
(1,134 posts)I started becoming agnostic in my youth, because I recognized the bigotry in my own family's Christian element--against Catholics, Jews, and Blacks, specifically, as Southern Baptists are wont to be. Then along came Trump--the LEAST religious person ever to seek POTUShip. And all he had to do was to placate the bible thumpers, and they flocked like the sheep they became. As an agnostic, I know way more about religion than The Dumpster ever will. After all this is the idiot who questioned two Presbyterian leaders how, if they weren't Evangelical, they still consider themselves Christian! This human turd knows almost nothing about anything, but religion is foremost in his ignorance, as demonstrated both by his life and his spoken words. Repukes of all stripes have followed this lead, as he threw them their apropos "bones" to placate them along the way. So I am in solid agreement with Nance, and I cut them no slack. My stance is that I have mixed feelings about Repukes--some I hate like poison, and others I hate just regular, but they are ALL complicit in this ongoing Trumponian disaster!
JoJo
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)lordsummerisle
(4,651 posts)stage left
(2,961 posts)Yes, ma'am. Right on the money. A basket full of deplorables with no excuses.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)farmbo
(3,121 posts)EOM
Doug the Dem
(1,297 posts)This song was released during the waning years of the Cold War, and I swear I know people who think it's about nuclear war!