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G_j

(40,366 posts)
Sun Jun 25, 2017, 02:41 PM Jun 2017

Trump forces plan to attack fellow Republican, Heller.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/23/politics/dean-heller-health-care/index.html


Heller won't back Senate GOP health care bill

By Eric Bradner, CNN
Updated 11:42 AM ET, Sat June 24, 2017

(CNN)Dean Heller on Friday became the latest Senate Republican to say he opposes the current GOP health care bill.

"It's simply not the answer," the Nevada Republican said at a news conference alongside Gov. Brian Sandoval in Las Vegas. "And I'm announcing today that in this form, I simply will not support it."

Almost immediately, the pro-Trump group America First Policies decided to launch what a source with the group says will be a major television, radio and digital ad buy against Heller -- a remarkable attack on a member of Trump's own party whose seat is endangered in 2018.

It was not immediately clear whether the group intends to back a primary challenger to Heller.

Heller, like four other GOP senators who announced their opposition to the Obamacare repeal bill that was unveiled Thursday, left the door open to negotiations. But he said "it's going to be very difficult to get me to a 'yes'" on the bill.

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Leith

(7,808 posts)
2. It Must Really Suck to Be Heller Right Now
Sun Jun 25, 2017, 02:46 PM
Jun 2017

No matter what, I'd be very surprised if he is reelected next year.

Somehow, it looks like AFP was looking for an excuse to run Joe Heck next year.

jaysunb

(11,856 posts)
3. Ok, but my question is.....
Sun Jun 25, 2017, 03:04 PM
Jun 2017

Why isn't our Party, with all our creative talent not cranking the brilliant tv spots every day on every move the GOP makes.. Naming names and targeting specific geographical locations.

There's plenty of material to work with.

I'm not going to be as liberal with my limited resources ( $$ ) in the future until they ( Democrats ) get with the program.

RKP5637

(67,101 posts)
4. Democrats have always sucked with messaging. Even when the democrats win something they F it up!
Sun Jun 25, 2017, 03:10 PM
Jun 2017

I just don't get it.

rurallib

(62,406 posts)
5. I think it is less that than the fact that the radical right controls @ 99%
Sun Jun 25, 2017, 03:41 PM
Jun 2017

of the media, particularly TV and the left has freespeech TV and a couple of hours on MSNBC so long as Comcast continues to allow it.

Plus the Repub party and its affiliate "issue" 501c3s have a ton more money that we do.

If we could push a talking point through an echo chamber the size of theirs daily the way they do, it almost doesn't matter how bad the message is. The medium is the message as Marshall McLuhan said so many years back.

RKP5637

(67,101 posts)
6. There is so much stacked against us. How did this happen, just tons of money poured into RW
Sun Jun 25, 2017, 04:01 PM
Jun 2017

media by Murdoch and it caught on? It seems hatred sells well.

rurallib

(62,406 posts)
9. Oh no - it was a plan Have you ever heard of the Powell Memo?
Sun Jun 25, 2017, 05:03 PM
Jun 2017
http://billmoyers.com/content/the-powell-memo-a-call-to-arms-for-corporations/

"To be more precise, what had become very apparent to the business community was that it was getting its clock cleaned. Used to having broad sway, employers faced a series of surprising defeats in the 1960s and early 1970s. As we have seen, these defeats continued unabated when Richard Nixon won the White House. Despite electoral setbacks, the liberalism of the Great Society had surprising political momentum. “From 1969 to 1972,” as the political scientist David Vogel summarizes in one of the best books on the political role of business, “virtually the entire American business community experienced a series of political setbacks without parallel in the postwar period.” In particular, Washington undertook a vast expansion of its regulatory power, introducing tough and extensive restrictions and requirements on business in areas from the environment to occupational safety to consumer protection.[2]

In corporate circles, this pronounced and sustained shift was met with disbelief and then alarm. By 1971, future Supreme Court justice Lewis Powell felt compelled to assert, in a memo that was to help galvanize business circles, that the “American economic system is under broad attack.” This attack, Powell maintained, required mobilization for political combat: “Business must learn the lesson . . . that political power is necessary; that such power must be assiduously cultivated; and that when necessary, it must be used aggressively and with determination—without embarrassment and without the reluctance which has been so characteristic of American business.” Moreover, Powell stressed, the critical ingredient for success would be organization: “Strength lies in organization, in careful long-range planning and implementation, in consistency of action over an indefinite period of years, in the scale of financing available only through joint effort, and in the political power available only through united action and national organizations.”[3]"

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
7. I hate to say this but I think all of
Sun Jun 25, 2017, 04:07 PM
Jun 2017

the Repubs against it are going to fold under pressure from the others that have no problem with it. The men more likely than the women because it is still a mans party for the most part and they must uphold their manly control.

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