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stopbush

(24,378 posts)
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 11:58 PM Jun 2017

What Happens To The ACA If The R Version Doesn't Pass/Become Law?

So, let's say the R disaster fails, dies and is shelved. Rs claim they tried and move on to other disastrous policies.

What happens to Obamacare?

It is still the law of the land. The exchanges still exist. Do the Rs reverse course and fund the risk corridors, restoring insurers confidence in the system? Do more red states bite the bullet and accept the Medicaid expansion?

Or, do they actively work to so fuck up Obamacare that the end result is utter chaos in the marketplace, millions of people losing their insurance, premiums going through the roof and good solutions becoming more expensive politically than ever?

I can't see the Rs admitting that Obamacare is actually a good system, and that their opposition to it was purely political.

It occurs to me that no one is discussing "what if" the bogus repeal and replace bs is finally dead and buried.

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RandySF

(57,661 posts)
1. They have almost two years left to kill it.
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 12:04 AM
Jun 2017

And that's assuming we take back Congress in 2018. If not, they have almost four years.

LeftInTX

(24,560 posts)
2. We could only hope they would come to their senses, but they won't
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 12:05 AM
Jun 2017

Especially the senate with McConnell running the show.

I wonder if wrote the senate's bill by himself in his basement?

no_hypocrisy

(45,774 posts)
4. Has there be a legal action launched to return the risk corridor payments?
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 06:45 AM
Jun 2017

Seems to me that when Rubio put it as a budget amendment that it also had the effect of violating the Oath of office: I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; will bear allegiance to the same . . . . "

Amishman

(5,541 posts)
5. The exchanges will need help soon unless the system itself is fixed
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 07:01 AM
Jun 2017

Insurers are taking losses in some areas even with the rate hikes. They will continue to pull out of the most expensive locales, which are also those with the most sick people when need coverage. I believe last on enrollment there were a few holes, locations with no participants. This will get worse.

The ACA is fine as is... If we can get reform to reduce the actual costs of healthcare. Up until now we have mostly been fighting over who pays the bills. What we need are smaller bills.

We need billing transparency and reform. Administrative costs in the US healthcare industry are dramatically higher than everywhere else partially due to the convoluted billing systems employed.

We need government collective bargaining on drug costs with Medicare like we have with Medicaid. And laws setting a maximum on prices on the general market relative to the negotiated Medicare/Medicaid price.

Caps on hospital and pharma advertising. Should be a maximum in relation to care spending for hospitals and research spending for pharmas.

OnDoutside

(19,908 posts)
6. They will starve it to death, which is why Democrats should start a campaign shouting from the
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 07:04 AM
Jun 2017

rooftops (now we know even Reptards are concerned about the loss of the ACA), that Republicans are actively working to take people's ACA away. Something along the lines of "when did you stop beating your wife ?".

Cosmocat

(14,543 posts)
7. As all here noted
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 07:05 AM
Jun 2017

They are so insane, they will doggedly continue to screw it up until the bloody end.

Demsrule86

(68,352 posts)
9. They own health care. I think they fix the ACA to some degree or
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 08:44 AM
Jun 2017

it limps along until the midterms where we run on a a veto proof senate and a solidly Democratic House...it could happen.

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