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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe GOP is incapable of governing
And that includes health care reform. Until the voters decide that intelligennce, education, and experience are more important than spite and emotions, they will remain unfit.
BootinUp
(47,141 posts)brokephibroke
(1,883 posts)...the more they remain the same...
BootinUp
(47,141 posts)We need u.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)That naturally cause those less extreme to jump off.
Democrats govern because they craft moderate policies that most of their party have a solid connection to.
MrPurple
(985 posts)Since they want to destroy government, except for the military, they don't have the mindset to fashion things that are functional. All that leaves open to them are cynical attempts to exploit it for corporate gain.
This Is IT.
They don't like government. They don't want it. They want to shut it down, defund it, obstruct it, fuck with it.
So when they find themselves in charge of it, and have to start acting like responsible grownups for the sake of the public trust - they're total nincompoops.
It's one thing to be a hostile know-it-all back-seat driver. Just wait til that back-seat driver has to get into the driver's seat.
MrPurple
(985 posts)How can they be expected to elect candidates that are based in reality or have their actual interests as a goal.
dubyadiprecession
(5,706 posts)brokephibroke
(1,883 posts)The GOP base is the low IQ/EQ quadrant : not smart and emotional.
world wide wally
(21,740 posts)MiddleClass
(888 posts)They don't know how to be a governing party.
Like Johnson said: any jackass can knock down the barn, takes a Carpenter to build one
BootinUp
(47,141 posts)MrPurple
(985 posts)babylonsister
(171,056 posts)apathy, or gerrymandering, votes not being counted, etc. etc. ad nauseum.
I think the apathetic non-voters might be waking up.
There are some I have given up on.
Initech
(100,063 posts)LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)Right-on-Point!
Iplayoneontv
(77 posts)Or touch you!
Seriously, of course they can't govern.
Generic Brad
(14,274 posts)Or, rather, dictate.
I'm more than happy to stay off their lawn, but I do not want them to tell me what to do outside of their property.
madokie
(51,076 posts)I'll stay off their lawn on my own accord but leave me the fuck alone otherwise.
summer_in_TX
(2,732 posts)I fear they've made it impossible for ANYONE to govern. They've undermined trust in our government, public service, and a free press and built such a spiral of negativity that I don't know how we ever restore and rebuild trust or work towards some kind of reconciliation.
Since the rise of Rush, I've thought the level of rhetoric has increasingly sounded like a family on the verge of a bitter divorce. Lately I wonder if it will ever be possible to get back to a representative democracy that works pretty well for all of us. I won't give up. But signs don't look good.
calimary
(81,220 posts)I feel the same way. Not gonna give up, but it sure doesn't look good. I'm in my mid-60s now, and I've NEVER seen it this bad.
And the sad part, this shit is something the CONS brought upon themselves.
I think the reason so many Americans wanted to do something drastic last November ("just burn it all down!" because government sucks and doesn't work and is for shit - is BECAUSE OF THE GOP. The GOP spent the previous eight years DELIBERATELY DOING NOTHING.
They obstructed. Plans for that began on Inauguration Night in January 2009. Thank you Mitch McConnell - who led this pack of vermin in a VERY evil, stupid, and colossally counterproductive scheme to say no to EVERYTHING. Obstruct EVERYTHING. Not allow the new president to put ANY points on the board. Even when he wanted to put THEIR points on the board for the benefit of everyone! Even when he wanted to bring THEIR original ideas up for discussion. The plan was to make sure Barack Obama was a one-term president. That's all it was. So they sat and did absolutely nothing, on the taxpayers' dime, for EIGHT FREAKIN' wasted useless squandered years. I'm frankly amazed that Obama and the Dems got anything done AT ALL.
So that, I think, is what ignited the so-called "angry voters" and the "forgotten Americans" who didn't see anything getting done, and they decided to say a big fat F-You and blow the place up. Put the most incendiary and flakey home-made human pressure-cooker bomb to the White House and just let him go off.
But not one of 'em thought this through. NOT ONE. Not ONE of 'em thought - uh - gee - wait a minute - what if they DO take my "Obamacare" away? I've got nothing else!" "Uh - gee - um - wait a minute ... uh, hey - I didn't mean for THAT to happen... " Not ONE of them paused for even one instant to consider what the consequences might be if they did this. What would the ramifications be if you help send Captain Chaos into the job site? And all HE knows how to do is slick-talk and sell you snake oil that you don't need and that doesn't work anyway, but he does know how to create chaos.
But it was far more important to give themselves an outlet to express their anger. Seems to me you do that in some therapist's office or group counseling session, or bull session with your buds over beer or something. You DON'T take your mad-on and vomit it all over the rest of us from coast to coast!
Do you think the deplorable contingent REALLY wanted all this? Or maybe they don't even view it this way. After all, he's signing all these important-looking pieces of paper in important-looking leather menus. So he's gettin' stuff done!
I think about this stuff and sometimes I just want to go back to bed and pull the covers up over my head and hide in there. I don't know that there is any hope. I don't know if enough of the deplorables are redeemable, or even just minimally reachable.
MrScorpio
(73,630 posts)That pretty much inhibits their ability TO govern.