These trump voting 'populists' voted for him because of his racist/misogynist/xenophobic/homophobic

[boston bean]

dog whistling and many times in your god damned face bigotry and admitted sexual assaulter.

These are not people who are turned off by Nancy Pelosi and would have voted for Hillary, or some other democrat running for the house or senate, if Nancy wasn't a democratic leader in congress.

These are people who are turned on by misogyny and bigotry..

Please can we stop with the, we would win everything if Nancy wasn't a leader.

Damn these people don't care about the policy.. when are people going to get that. They care about otherism and white persons populilsm.

I do not want a democratic party that caters to that shit, and yes when you get down to the nub of it, that is what some are asking be done.

[Expecting Rain]

1. Populism is always bad

Right-wing populism. Left-wing-populism. Both rely on stirring people to anger and focusing blame on an internal enemy.

Populism never turns out well.

It antithetical to reasoned liberalism is not the path we should follow as Democrats.

[Oneironaut]

9. Yup. It's emotional rather than logical.

The situation we're in now is typical of populism - facts are ignored in favor of feelings. Populism paradoxically seems to encourage authoritarianism. You would think it would be the opposite.

[UTUSN]

2. R#3 & K, tyvm

[Orrex]

3. The huge majority of post mortem election analyses, both Dem & Repub...

focused on what Clinton did wrong or what she should have done better.

To hell with her vast popular majority; she should have wasted time kissing more ass in backwater Pennsylvania towns that wouldn't vote for her in a million years.

The current crap is much the same, it seems. Regardless of the actual facts in evidence, let's embrace the RW talking points and declare that Pelosi is the reason that Dems lost big in 2020. No need to worry about gerrymandering, voter suppression, or collusion with Russia.

[boston bean]

4. yep. thank you!

[Orrex]

7. It's almost like a strategy or something

GOP Leaders: "Pelosi is bad. Look how bad she is. You can't believe how bad she is."

GOP Voters: "Hmm. Pelosi is bad. Good thing I would never vote Democrat anyway."

Democratic Worriers: "Hmm! Pelosi is bad? We should reject her, to appease lifelong GOP Voters!"

[lindysalsagal]

5. All true. Not about facts, policy or even the voter's needs: This is all psychological.

Discussing details is totally irrelevant.

[leftstreet]

6. They think those behaviors make a person powerful

DURec

[niyad]

8. k and r

[rogue emissary]

10. That's the difference between both sides.

I and many other Democrats didn't support Obama and Obamacare to screw over the WWC. Which is why so many of them have benefited from the ACA.

[Alice11111]

11. Agtee as to why most voted DT

That's who they are. How did there get to be so many of them? Their parents must have taught them these horrific values, just as I and most parents taught our kids that only very ignorant and very mean people believe that way.
There were always some, but now it seems we are crawling with them.

[Nevernose]

13. I saw a guy in rural Illinois yesterday

With two giant signs in his yard:
Proud Union Family
&
Trump/Pence

The disconnect in thinking there... it clearly can't be much beyond "I don't like Mexicans."

[Alice11111]

16. Evidently, more &more people are putting up his signs &

putting on bumper stickers now...out of the closet bigots, etc., I guess.

[gollygee]

15. Most white people at least in the upper midwest grow up in almost entirely white areas

They might live their whole lives knowing only one or two people of color, and then only slightly knowing them. Our country, and specifically these areas, are exceptionally segregated.

What they know about people of color is what they see on TV and read about online. And that's not fair or balanced, or accurate. They hear the grown ups they know talk about how horrible Detroit and Chicago and Dayton and Cleveland and any other city with a higher percentage of people of color are. They grow up learning racism.

It isn't getting better. The last generation to actively fight racism was the baby boomers. My generation (Gen X) tried an ill-fated "Color Blind" philosophy that has failed. We have to actively fight racism to make things better. Otherwise, racism just builds on itself.

[Alice11111]

17. Yeah, but they voted for Obama

I did not grew up around Asians, but I'm not racists
I grew up in segregated schools until 7th grade, at least for blacks. We all got along fine...it was the parents and he inscure, mean whites in the community who stired up strife. We still became friends.

[gollygee]

18. I don't buy that

I don't think there are a whole lot of people who voted for Obama and then voted for Trump. I think a lot of people who voted for Obama didn't vote at all in 2016, and a lot of people who don't often vote got out and voted for Trump in 2016. My sister's voting spot, which is rural and is usually very slow, was so busy it took her hours to get through the line, and she had to park blocks away because the parking lot was full and people were parked along the street all around. People were excited by Trump and voted, but I don't think they were Obama voters. I think they were racist rural people who were excited to find an openly racist presidential candidate.

[nikibatts]

12. Why is that so difficult for the media to understand? Why is that so difficult for anyone to see?

[mcar]

14. K&R