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Wed Jun 28, 2017, 12:44 PM

New Google News layout is awful - any suggestion for alternate news aggregator sites?

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EDIT: THE OLD LAYOUT OF GOOGLE NEWS CAN NOW BE ACCESSED AT THEOLDGNEWS.COM

I've used Google News as my PC homepage since it started in 2004, I think. Last night, they implemented a new layout, which really destroys using the service for me. There was great information density and I could see dozens of stories at a glance across my screen, links to different sources providing the same story.

The new format seems geared toward phones and I can see two stories with TONS of white space on the sides and need to scroll endlessly and still don't find the info easily that was on a single widescreen PC screen before. Are any other Google News users frustrated with this change today? Are there alternate news aggregator sites that you like? I really loved Google News - lots of news at a glance from lots of good sources. But, the update is such a big downgrade that it's likely time to move on to something else.

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Reply New Google News layout is awful - any suggestion for alternate news aggregator sites? (Original post)
MrPurple Jun 2017 OP
MineralMan Jun 2017 #1
MrPurple Jun 2017 #4
LeftInTX Jun 2017 #16
MineralMan Jun 2017 #17
pnwmom Jun 2017 #25
Brainstormy Jun 2017 #2
demmiblue Jun 2017 #3
leftstreet Jun 2017 #5
MineralMan Jun 2017 #7
MrPurple Jun 2017 #9
MineralMan Jun 2017 #12
melman Jun 2017 #6
Thor_MN Jul 2017 #49
Alea Jun 2017 #8
Deb Jun 2017 #37
MrPurple Jun 2017 #10
pnwmom Jun 2017 #24
dalton99a Jun 2017 #11
MrPurple Jun 2017 #13
lunasun Jun 2017 #14
FigTree Jun 2017 #15
Chemisse Jun 2017 #29
leftstreet Jun 2017 #34
jcmaine72 Jun 2017 #40
LeftInTX Jun 2017 #18
MrPurple Jun 2017 #20
Liberal In Texas Jul 2017 #51
Blue_true Jun 2017 #19
MrPurple Jun 2017 #21
JimGinPA Jun 2017 #22
pnwmom Jun 2017 #23
oberliner Jun 2017 #26
WilliamPlanke Jun 2017 #27
LAS14 Jun 2017 #28
Shandris Jun 2017 #30
area51 Jun 2017 #31
BoulderCountyGuy Jun 2017 #32
gopiscrap Jun 2017 #44
mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2017 #33
workinclasszero Jun 2017 #35
a kennedy Jun 2017 #36
L. Coyote Jun 2017 #38
jcmaine72 Jun 2017 #39
blogslut Jun 2017 #41
MrPurple Jun 2017 #42
leftstreet Jun 2017 #43
marybourg Jul 2017 #45
MrPurple Jul 2017 #47
marybourg Jul 2017 #48
csziggy Jul 2017 #46
ck4829 Jul 2017 #50
theoldgnews Aug 2017 #52
MrPurple Aug 2017 #53
theoldgnews Aug 2017 #54
MrPurple Aug 2017 #55
mahatmakanejeeves Aug 2017 #56
MrPurple Aug 2017 #58
MrPurple Aug 2017 #57

Response to MrPurple (Original post)

Wed Jun 28, 2017, 12:53 PM

1. I use Google News by searching only.

I search for topics of interest to me. I don't bother with home pages for news stories. There's too much news I don't care about that takes up too much space on any such page.

So, I search for news.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #1)

Wed Jun 28, 2017, 12:56 PM

4. I like seeing a panoply of breaking global events in one screen shot, click when I want to know more

I've done this with my browser homepages since 9/11. The previous layout of Google News was wonderful. Almost subconsciously, I had a sense of all the current headlines as I went through my day.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #1)

Wed Jun 28, 2017, 02:38 PM

16. Have you tried it today? The search function is just as bad.

The first screen looks the same, but then when I hit "view all" it turns into a mess.

I use "view all" because I've already the articles that are highlighted and I like to get more in-depth news.

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Response to LeftInTX (Reply #16)

Wed Jun 28, 2017, 02:40 PM

17. No, I haven't, actually. I rarely go beyond the first results page

for news searches. Normally, that page delivers reliable sources I can read.

I'll look at it the next time I search Google News for a subject.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #1)

Wed Jun 28, 2017, 10:04 PM

25. The new format doesn't work as well for searching, either. n/t

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Response to MrPurple (Original post)

Wed Jun 28, 2017, 12:53 PM

2. well, this won't be helpful

But Huffpost and Comcast suck, too. I'd like to get other suggestions.

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Response to MrPurple (Original post)

Wed Jun 28, 2017, 12:56 PM

3. I use Twitter as a news feed. n/t

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Response to MrPurple (Original post)

Wed Jun 28, 2017, 12:57 PM

5. Do they still have the format button?

I'm seeing it, but not sure if they're removing it

It's a drop-down at the top next to 'US edition'

Classic
Modern
Compact

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Response to leftstreet (Reply #5)

Wed Jun 28, 2017, 01:00 PM

7. They have a Settings drop down for customization.

It looks very flexible to me. I still don't use a one-page news service as a home page, though.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #7)

Wed Jun 28, 2017, 01:18 PM

9. The new version might not have been implemented for you yet, I don't have a classic settings choice

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Response to MrPurple (Reply #9)

Wed Jun 28, 2017, 02:06 PM

12. Click the gear. It doesn't offer any "Classic" setting,

but lets you customize what you see in great detail to suit your preferences. Try it. You might like it better, once you've set it up the way you want it.

Yes, I have the new version displayed. Looks like there are dozens of things you can customize.

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Response to MrPurple (Original post)

Wed Jun 28, 2017, 12:59 PM

6. Twitter is probably the best

Especially for breaking news, it really can't be beat.

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Response to melman (Reply #6)

Tue Jul 4, 2017, 01:36 AM

49. Twitter is crap. Slightly more advanced than cavemen grunts.

 

It isn't a News Aggregator, it's an endless pile of 140 character echos of crap.

The most stupid form of communication ever.

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Response to MrPurple (Original post)

Wed Jun 28, 2017, 01:07 PM

8. Associated Press

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Response to Alea (Reply #8)

Thu Jun 29, 2017, 03:45 PM

37. agree and Reuters "the wire" side of the app

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Response to MrPurple (Original post)

Wed Jun 28, 2017, 01:53 PM

10. Thousands of people have complained about this in Google forums

but I guess not many people here are regular users. I may go with a digital Washington Post subscription instead. From my experience, the previous Google News layout was uniquely good for grasping 40 different stories in a well presented snapshot with links any any story to the WaPo, NYT, BBC, Guardian, Fox (if I wanted to assess their spin) articles on the story. It still does that, but I need to scroll and scroll to see what was dense and visible on one screen before.

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Response to MrPurple (Reply #10)

Wed Jun 28, 2017, 10:03 PM

24. I liked the old version for the same reason you did. And I hate the new format. n/t

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Response to MrPurple (Original post)

Wed Jun 28, 2017, 01:53 PM

11. It looks like shit

Dumb idea

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #11)

Wed Jun 28, 2017, 02:07 PM

13. Think it's meant to be easier on phones, but stupid not just have 2 separate versions

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Response to MrPurple (Original post)

Wed Jun 28, 2017, 02:08 PM

14. I am on a phone and looks the same to me . I am in the US

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Response to MrPurple (Original post)

Wed Jun 28, 2017, 02:33 PM

15. I use

ighome.com. You can tailor it the way you want.

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Response to FigTree (Reply #15)

Wed Jun 28, 2017, 10:23 PM

29. That's what I use too. I like it. n/t

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Response to FigTree (Reply #15)

Thu Jun 29, 2017, 03:41 PM

34. +1

Thanks for that suggestion!

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Response to FigTree (Reply #15)

Fri Jun 30, 2017, 02:54 PM

40. Thanks for sharing this info. I've never heard of that site before.

I'm going to give this site a shot as my new home page. Thank you!

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Response to MrPurple (Original post)

Wed Jun 28, 2017, 02:50 PM

18. Agree, awful....it is like it is pandering to the "graphics" crowd instead of the "reading" crowd

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Response to LeftInTX (Reply #18)

Wed Jun 28, 2017, 03:41 PM

20. I think it's about catering to people who are using tiny phone screens

I could see links to 30-40 stories in a screenshot before, with exceprts from the opening sentences. Now, I can see links to 5 articles on one topic and then I need to scroll. There's tons of complaints in the Google forums, so hopefully they'll provide a tab where you can select the old format. But, probably this is a strategy of focusing on mobile device users more that they've planned for a while and it's here to stay.

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Response to MrPurple (Reply #20)

Tue Jul 4, 2017, 08:20 AM

51. That was my first thought when seeing it.

Catering to phones and pads. Don't see any reason they can't have a "classic" or PC option.

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Response to MrPurple (Original post)

Wed Jun 28, 2017, 03:12 PM

19. I use Yahoo. Sometimes they screw it up, but get it straight.

The Yahoo format scrolls well, with main banner stories, and a down list of secondary stories.

But beware. Yahoo sometimes push out changes that are awful, like last week they blew up the main headline scrolling with a change that should have been double checked before being implemented.

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Response to MrPurple (Original post)

Wed Jun 28, 2017, 03:45 PM

21. Here's an example of the old layout vs. the new one

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Response to MrPurple (Original post)

Wed Jun 28, 2017, 09:56 PM

22. The New Layout Doesn't Bother Me As Much As The 505 Errors That Keep Killing My Feed...

I guess I don't need to see that many headlines at once, or rather the scrolling doesn't aggravate me too much, as I keep up with news from a few local (city) and a few special (sports, tech etc.) feeds, so I had to do some scrolling anyway. However, several times today it has crashed in the separate tab I have it in.

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Response to MrPurple (Original post)

Wed Jun 28, 2017, 10:01 PM

23. I loathe it too. I kept switching away, thinking I had made a mistake. nt

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Response to MrPurple (Original post)

Wed Jun 28, 2017, 10:05 PM

26. You'll get used to it

 

It's just that it's new.

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Response to MrPurple (Original post)

Wed Jun 28, 2017, 10:16 PM

27. Flipboard gets my vote for news aggregator.

Works seemlessly between mobile and desktop. Highly configurable. Love it!

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Response to MrPurple (Original post)

Wed Jun 28, 2017, 10:17 PM

28. I was frustrated until I discovered the little dropdown....

....arrow in the lower right that gives me the info I used to see. In my IE that arrow didn't show.... only in Chrome.

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Response to MrPurple (Original post)

Wed Jun 28, 2017, 11:47 PM

30. It boggles my mind that we don't have scalable code yet that can be written...

 

...once and deployed across both phones and desktops. Just like about a third of the time I open YouTube it's in 'phone mode' where it is just COMPLETELY disgusting to look at on a desktop (and you can't change it because it demands you 'log in', and Google can fuck right off if it thinks it will ever get a username from me). Every now and then it will even switch between the two when you simply hit Refresh, it's maddening as all hell.

Okay, rant over, I feel better. As for aggregators, I'm sorry...I don't have a better one than 4chan, but you REALLY need a strong stomach to read the things they aggregate (and time to sort out the lies, and the stomach not to get vomitous at their wording, and...).

EDIT TO ADD: AND WHILE I'M AT IT, let me not forget to mention MSNBC's INSISTENCE that all frontpage stories are videos spaced for mobile phones. I know the goal is to dumb us down to the level of livestock, but TRY not to be SO fucking obvious about it, yah?

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Response to MrPurple (Original post)

Thu Jun 29, 2017, 03:12 AM

31. Any interest

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Response to MrPurple (Original post)

Thu Jun 29, 2017, 11:24 AM

32. Couldn't agree more...

I could not agree more with MrPurple's perspective on the new Google News format - horrible. As far as I can tell, many of the functions I found quite useful are gone. Problems/issues with the new format:

(1) When using a key word to search for news articles on a particular topic, results seem to be universally limited to about 20 articles as a result of the search. Why the limit on the search results, Google? How were those particular 20 articles chosen?

(2) Previously Google News readers/users were able to search for articles using the following time parameters: (a) during the last 24 hours; (b) during the last week; (c) during the last month; (d) custom time parameter search. As far as I can tell, few if any of these time search parameters are any longer available. Why Google?

It appears Google has significantly "dumbed-down" its new Google News format, made it much less useful, I think in nearly every way it is a step backwards. Bad job, Google.

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Response to BoulderCountyGuy (Reply #32)

Fri Jun 30, 2017, 11:00 PM

44. welcome to du

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Response to MrPurple (Original post)

Thu Jun 29, 2017, 03:40 PM

33. I concur. It's awful. NT

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Response to MrPurple (Original post)

Thu Jun 29, 2017, 03:41 PM

35. I don't like it either OP

 

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Response to MrPurple (Original post)

Thu Jun 29, 2017, 03:44 PM

36. I don't use google period........I use DuckDuckGo.com as my search engine......they NEVER track you.

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Response to MrPurple (Original post)

Thu Jun 29, 2017, 03:47 PM

38. DU and dKos

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Response to MrPurple (Original post)

Fri Jun 30, 2017, 02:49 PM

39. Yep, the redesign is awful. I gave it a few days to grow on me. It hasn't.

Consequently, for the first time since 2002 or so, Google News is no longer my home page. I'm not the biggest fan of msn.com, but it'll have to do for now as a substitute.

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Response to MrPurple (Original post)

Fri Jun 30, 2017, 03:16 PM

41. I'm learning to like it.

I just needed to play around with it some. I'm finding it easier to configure my news sources with this new layout.

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Response to blogslut (Reply #41)

Fri Jun 30, 2017, 05:34 PM

42. I liked not specifying sources, so I could see what ones I disagree w/ were saying too

And I liked being exposed to random things that I normally wouldn't seek out. But on the old Google News layout, I could scan 20 stories & summaries in one screenshot. Now there's just one or two topics on the screen and then I need to scroll. The Google propaganda says that the new design is less "cluttered", but it wasn't clutter before, it was wonderfully dense with information.

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Response to MrPurple (Reply #42)

Fri Jun 30, 2017, 05:39 PM

43. +1

I figure that's what's wrong with most of Trump's supporters - their only 'news source' is FOX and rightwing radio which is all basically tailored for them.

I agree, I liked the random Google headlines I wouldn't normally seek out

New format suckz!

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Response to MrPurple (Original post)

Mon Jul 3, 2017, 09:46 PM

45. "Just for You" and DU

Tonite I clicked on "Just for You" (on Google News) for the first time and was interested to find that stories of Jewish interest and anti-Trump stories were all that came up. The only place I indulge in those interests are on DU.

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Response to marybourg (Reply #45)

Mon Jul 3, 2017, 10:16 PM

47. They know everything you've searched for/read through Google & Youtube

You must have used Google over the years to search for/read articles related to those topics. Google also owns Youtube, but don't know if that's integrated. I just clicked For You and all the stories are about politics and the Patriots.

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Response to MrPurple (Reply #47)

Mon Jul 3, 2017, 10:35 PM

48. No. Only DU.

Have searched enormous # of topics on Google, several every day, but only those 2 topics came up.

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Response to MrPurple (Original post)

Mon Jul 3, 2017, 10:01 PM

46. At the upper left the bars let you toggle the "Main Menu" on and off

And that gets rid of the column to the left side of the screen. Now if they would only let us get rid of the useless right side column with the stupid buttons. I'm sure those buttons would be convenient if I were reading the page on a smart phone - but I am not.m They waste my screen space and force to endlessly scroll.

I resent that they have lots of chances to ask for more on specific subjects but they don't offer the choice to get LESS. In my preferences I marked that I wanted no sports stories, but sure enough there are sports stories the list, especially in the column on the right.

You are right MrPurple - this pretty much destroys the usefullness of Google news.

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Response to MrPurple (Original post)

Tue Jul 4, 2017, 07:38 AM

50. I've also noticed the quality of the news they use has dropped very recently

I am subscribed to several things I find interesting and the news articles coming in are irrelevant to the subscription.

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Response to MrPurple (Original post)

Thu Aug 17, 2017, 05:39 AM

52. The old Google News layout

the old layout is here: https://www.theoldgnews.com

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Response to theoldgnews (Reply #52)

Thu Aug 17, 2017, 12:31 PM

53. Thank you! Switching my homepage now.

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Response to MrPurple (Reply #53)

Fri Aug 18, 2017, 12:40 AM

54. Your welcome

Could you do an edit on your original post to include the website link, so others can find it easier instead of digging through comments? Thanks!

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Response to theoldgnews (Reply #54)

Fri Aug 18, 2017, 02:49 AM

55. Done. Thanks again. Is this provided by Google or has someone developed a program for this?

I'd assume it's from Google, but there should be a settings link on the Google News page for this.

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Response to theoldgnews (Reply #52)

Fri Aug 18, 2017, 09:25 AM

56. Oh, that's great. Thank you. Like MrPurple, I'm switching my home page to this one. NT

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Response to theoldgnews (Reply #52)

Thu Aug 31, 2017, 07:00 PM

58. It was nice having the old Google News layout, but this site stopped working now.

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Response to MrPurple (Original post)

Sat Aug 19, 2017, 05:01 PM

57. Bummer, theoldgnews.com is great, but it doesn't give me unlimited Washington Post articles

I love the old Google News layout that you can access through theoldgnews.com. But, after using it for a few days, Washington Post blanks out the articles I try to link to, saying that I'm not a subscriber. When I go in through the actual Google News site, I can still read any Washington Post article that I link to through there.

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