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KelleyKramer

(8,958 posts)
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 11:43 PM Jun 2017

Looks like Jared Kushner is headed for a LOT of trouble


This is from TPM who has been doing a great job lately and I highly recomend the website ....



http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/everything-we-know-federal-investigation-jared-kushner-russia-ties-finances

Everything The Feds Want To Know About Freshly Lawyered-Up Jared Kushner






In addition to his personal attorney, Jamie Gorelick, Kushner has retained veteran criminal defense lawyer Abbe Lowell to help handle his response to special counsel Robert Mueller’s sprawling probe, according to reports that surfaced Monday. Lowell has been involved in some of the biggest scandals to hit D.C. in recent years, representing disgraced Republican lobbyist Jack Abramoff and shepherding Democratic vice-presidential nominee John Edwards through a campaign finance case that was ultimately dropped by the Justice Department.

-snip-

Kushner first came under FBI scrutiny last year as agents began digging into former national security adviser Michael Flynn’s ties to Russian officials, according to Reuters. A current U.S. law enforcement official told the publication that Kushner was one of the American names unmasked in intelligence reports detailing communications between Flynn and Russian officials. This prompted further scrutiny into Kushner’s own dealings with Russia’s Ambassador to the U.S., Sergei Kislyak.

Those dealings included a remarkable December discussion about setting up a secure, secret communications channel between the Trump transition team and Moscow, according to a Washington Post bombshell report. Kushner reportedly proposed establishing this direct line of contact, and communications intercepted by the U.S. showed that Kislyak told his superiors he was surprised by Kushner’s suggestion to use communications equipment in stateside Russian diplomatic facilities to carry it out.

-snip-


Meeting with head of a sanctioned Russian bank
Investigators are looking into the backstory of another meeting Kushner held in December, this time with the head of a Russian state-owned bank with deep connections to Russia’s intelligence agency.
Why Kushner met with Sergey Gorkov, CEO of Vnesheconombank, and what they discussed is a line of inquiry for federal investigators, according to the The New York Times. Current and former U.S. officials told the newspaper the conversation may have been part of Kushner’s effort to contact the Kremlin without the Obama administration’s knowledge, and that investigators want to know if they discussed lifting sanctions that Obama’s team imposed on Russian companies, including Vnesheconombank, in retaliation for Moscow’s annexation of Crimea.


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Much more at the link


http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/everything-we-know-federal-investigation-jared-kushner-russia-ties-finances



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Looks like Jared Kushner is headed for a LOT of trouble (Original Post) KelleyKramer Jun 2017 OP
You in a heapa trubble, boy Stinky The Clown Jun 2017 #1
Good one. Alice11111 Jun 2017 #8
Jackie Gleason orangecrush Jun 2017 #18
To this day madokie Jun 2017 #23
He was actually a tough guy orangecrush Jun 2017 #36
TPM and Slate have been daily reads (more than once per day) since the election theft for me. NRaleighLiberal Jun 2017 #2
Same here. herding cats Jun 2017 #13
Is this the bank that isn't really a bank? madaboutharry Jun 2017 #3
Leave it to Rachel to dig up good stuff. Hieronymus Jun 2017 #6
My feeling is that either we are all screwed....or... pangaia Jun 2017 #4
It is unfortunately the logical conclusion. Alice11111 Jun 2017 #7
Well, criminals always away with the crime until they don't. bullimiami Jun 2017 #27
We have one foot in the grave Cosmocat Jun 2017 #28
You only hire Abbe Lowell if you are guilty Gothmog Jun 2017 #5
Good to hear! sheshe2 Jun 2017 #11
Oh... DesertRat Jun 2017 #19
Abbe Gilte? n/t Beartracks Jun 2017 #20
I saw what you did there! The_jackalope Jun 2017 #32
An admission of guilt right off the Cha Jun 2017 #21
Lol. Or very wealthy. Perhaps Lowell prefers to take the Hortensis Jun 2017 #22
What the hell did Kushner think he was doing? Yes, it was the hubris! KelleyKramer Jun 2017 #24
We don't know the stories yet. Kushner may have been Hortensis Jun 2017 #25
Kushner became the bagman after Flynn got the axe FakeNoose Jun 2017 #26
My last read before bedtime, and a good one. dixiegrrrrl Jun 2017 #9
You're welcome dixiegrrrrl ! KelleyKramer Jun 2017 #10
No tv, happily. So I miss some things worth viewing, like local ads. dixiegrrrrl Jun 2017 #33
Yes it does sound like a comic book villain KelleyKramer Jun 2017 #37
kick nt LaydeeBug Jun 2017 #12
Follow the money, yortsed snacilbuper Jun 2017 #14
Has anyone noticed no new bombshells the last couple of weeks besides the fact that bresue Jun 2017 #15
Oh Jahhhr-uhhd Still In Wisconsin Jun 2017 #16
How terrible MFM008 Jun 2017 #17
Targeting the disinformation was key, and required U.S. inside assistance. They went to Jarred! lindysalsagal Jun 2017 #29
I hope Queen Ivanka's pouting saves her wittoo Jawwed. She will have to choose between Daddy and hus lindysalsagal Jun 2017 #30
I would so love it if hubby ratted out daddy. CrispyQ Jun 2017 #31
Hope so, he's so deserving of trouble. SharonClark Jun 2017 #34
may he receive everything he deserves. niyad Jun 2017 #35

madokie

(51,076 posts)
23. To this day
Thu Jun 29, 2017, 03:23 AM
Jun 2017

It still breaks my heart that the man is gone. The original Smokie and the Bandit was an awesome performance by him, actually the whole cast but especially Mr.Gleason

orangecrush

(19,546 posts)
36. He was actually a tough guy
Thu Jun 29, 2017, 03:43 PM
Jun 2017

Ex boxer, and that trick shooting you saw him do in the movie was really him. He was a pistol expert.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,014 posts)
2. TPM and Slate have been daily reads (more than once per day) since the election theft for me.
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 11:48 PM
Jun 2017

along side DU, of course.

Real News - imagine that.

madaboutharry

(40,209 posts)
3. Is this the bank that isn't really a bank?
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 11:52 PM
Jun 2017

I think there could be a massive money laundering scheme we are going to find out about.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
4. My feeling is that either we are all screwed....or...
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 11:57 PM
Jun 2017

They are ALL going down and we will escape the destruction of western democracy.


But I have been wrong before.

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
28. We have one foot in the grave
Thu Jun 29, 2017, 08:02 AM
Jun 2017

I mean, it is now public knowledge that prior to taking office our current POTUS has his right hand man talk to Russia about having secret communications run out of Russia.

Think about that? And, the optics of 45's little circle jerk with Russian officials in the Oval Office.

And, 1/3 of the country is cheering it on while another 1/3 just doesn't care.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
22. Lol. Or very wealthy. Perhaps Lowell prefers to take the
Thu Jun 29, 2017, 03:05 AM
Jun 2017

more challenging cases?

This is like watching a verrry slow Greek tragedy play out. When it became clear Rump was going to win the primary, it was also clear that the intense attention to the affairs of a president would bring him down and many close to him. At very least, severely shaming the golden Barbie and Ken couple.

Only it's turning out to be a lot more than shame. The hubris. What the HELL did Kushner think he was doing? Was he blind to reality? Even if he was raised to think laws don't apply to him, how could he not foresee this? Crooks do best in the shadows for good reason, as Christie's dragging his father out and around the public square demonstrated.

KelleyKramer

(8,958 posts)
24. What the hell did Kushner think he was doing? Yes, it was the hubris!
Thu Jun 29, 2017, 03:40 AM
Jun 2017

Most of those meetings were after Trump won the election

Flynn was already slated to be the top intel officer in the US (and he held that position after the inauguration)

It looks likely that Kushner saw that as an opportunity to bail out his failed real estate holdings


And the attempt by Kushner to establish a secret back channel line to the Russians is nothing but pure unadulterated hubris

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
25. We don't know the stories yet. Kushner may have been
Thu Jun 29, 2017, 03:47 AM
Jun 2017

hoping to put out some financial fires before they turned into conflagrations that would burn up his family. We do not know. But many top experts believe they are trying to hide something big, maybe a number of them.

That back channel designed to evade U.S. intelligence, though? My god. Even Putin's FSB reportedly declined, which perhaps will save him him from serving a term in a federal penitentiary for that alone.

And Cambridge Analytica? I'm very glad they're investigating them, but they'd sure better be clean. Otoh, if they're not he can go live in the penitentiary with my compliments.

FakeNoose

(32,634 posts)
26. Kushner became the bagman after Flynn got the axe
Thu Jun 29, 2017, 07:39 AM
Jun 2017

I'm sure he's complicit in whatever Trump's guilty of, but he also might flip if he's scared of going to jail.
(That's what Mueller is hoping.)

Personally I don't think he will flip because if he did it would be end of everything for the Trump family.
I think he'll keep quiet and take one for the team. If he's smart that's what he'll do.

So that's why he needs a good lawyer, to negotiate with the Feds and get him the best deal.
For sure he'll get some kind of conviction and sentence but maybe serve time at the country club prison.

You have to wonder what Trump thinks of all this. Doesn't he realize they're coming for him next?

KelleyKramer

(8,958 posts)
10. You're welcome dixiegrrrrl !
Thu Jun 29, 2017, 12:24 AM
Jun 2017


Have you seen the new Luther Strange tv ad yet?

It's just as stupid as all the ones he ran for AG.... ugh!


dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
33. No tv, happily. So I miss some things worth viewing, like local ads.
Thu Jun 29, 2017, 11:14 AM
Jun 2017

Luther Strange sounds like a Batman nemesis, doesn't it?

KelleyKramer

(8,958 posts)
37. Yes it does sound like a comic book villain
Fri Jun 30, 2017, 05:32 AM
Jun 2017


But then you see him and hear him speaking and it ruins the whole thing!

As my grandfather would say.. that boy is dumber than a bag of hammers


bresue

(1,007 posts)
15. Has anyone noticed no new bombshells the last couple of weeks besides the fact that
Thu Jun 29, 2017, 01:17 AM
Jun 2017

every day it seems someone in Dump's orbit is hiring an attorney? Like a domino affect?

I imagine we can tell who Mueller talked to that day...because they then go out and get an attorney?

lindysalsagal

(20,679 posts)
29. Targeting the disinformation was key, and required U.S. inside assistance. They went to Jarred!
Thu Jun 29, 2017, 08:20 AM
Jun 2017

The following are exerpts:

The U.S. intelligence community says Russian hackers strategically targeted certain states and demographics with social media bots and “fake news” sites pushing pro-Trump stories.

CNN reported that Kushner helped the campaign make use of data targeting to reach voters in states like Michigan and Wisconsin, who ultimately ended up securing Trump’s electoral victory.

lindysalsagal

(20,679 posts)
30. I hope Queen Ivanka's pouting saves her wittoo Jawwed. She will have to choose between Daddy and hus
Thu Jun 29, 2017, 08:30 AM
Jun 2017

husband. Can't wait for that! Maybe this is really going to be a reality TV show.

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