I'm not getting caught up in the Mika/Joe vs. Trump Pro Rasslin' smack talk Bull.

[Foamfollower]

That's precisely what this is. It's all staged and is just like the smack talk bullshit in "Pro Wrestling" Trump learned bout entertaining the masses with this bullshit during his stint in "Pro Wrestling" show business.

Remember, when it came down to Trump vs. Hillary, Mika and Joe were supportive of the orange asshat.

This is show business distraction nonsense, nothing more.

[oberliner]

1. And yet, this is what you choose to post about

Instead of something serious and important. So now we have another OP about Morning Trump to clog up GD.

[Foamfollower]

2. Because this distraction BS is all over DU.

It's pro wrestling garbage, not news.

[oberliner]

3. Fair enough

But how cool would it be if we actually had more posts about real news stories instead of this crap?

It sometimes seems like these kinds of topics get more play than the ones that really matter (and I'm guilty of it too).

[Squinch]

5. Didn't I just defend you in your thread on this very same subject?

[oberliner]

7. Yep

I'm all over the map on this stuff right now!

Crazy morning.

[Honeycombe8]

13. It is news when the most powerful person in the world personally attacks a citizen

(in a continuing pattern of attacking women) because of criticism of his policies and lies.

This is a big deal. It's part of the dictatorial pattern of behavior, as well as mob boss behavior to silence critics.

[Foamfollower]

17. It's pro rasslin' smack talk, nothing more.

It's entertainment, not news.

[Honeycombe8]

21. I'm sorry you don't understand the importance.

And you don't grasp the meaning of the most powerful person in the world trying to ruin someone's life because he wants to shut down criticism of his policies and pointing out his lies.

Maybe you'll understand later. This is important.

[Foamfollower]

22. This is a distrction, nothing more.

IT's show business, not reality.

IT's more like reality TV where nothing is real.

Joe, Mika, and Trump have been close friends for YEARS!

[Squinch]

4. It is exactly that, and it is Mika and Joe chasing ratings after they shoved Trump(R) down our

throats at every chance throughout the campaign.

[Honeycombe8]

10. They did not support Trump in the campaign. That's also irrelevant.

This was a personal attack on the appearance of a woman, in response to criticism of his policy and lies. This is a really big deal. Even if you don't like the person he attacked.

[Foamfollower]

16. Not during the primaries, but they fell in line after.

[Honeycombe8]

19. No, they did not. You are misremembering. They were among the first to call out his LIES....

Even Joe, the moderate Repub. They were TOTALLY AGAINST TRUMP.

They started out being more or less noncommittal on the large group of Republicans running for the nomination, but when Trump showed his true self...they jumped on all that he had shown himself to be. And they didn't relent. TRUMP REFUSED TO APPEAR ON THEIR SHOW ANYMORE, as a consequence.

And that's the reality. But it's irrelevant. What the big deal is a President attacking a citizen PERSONALLY because of criticism of his policies and lies. That's a really big deal. He can ruin lives and careers, he knows it, and that's what he wants to do, in fact. Ruin lives and careers.

Congress needs to do something to protect the citizens.

[Foamfollower]

20. Yes, they did prop up the orange asshat

They went after Hillary EVERY DAMNED DAY!

[Honeycombe8]

23. They pointed out the shortcomings of both, but WERE AGAINST TRUMP mainly.

You are misremembering. Again, I'm sorry you have taken a position and are trying to come up with reasons to support it.

I'm a follower of the show. I am not mistaken in this. TRUMP QUIT APPEARING ON THE SHOW, as a result of what they said about him.

It's not a journalists job to be a cheerleader for either. It's their JOB to point out shortcomings. But when Trump's mental imbalance started showing itself, his misogny, his violence, his racism, his lies started getting apparent, THEY WERE THE FIRST TO UNRELENTINGLY POINT THIS OUT, to the point that TRUMP QUIT APPEARING ON THE SHOW.

This is the reality. Not your reality.

[Foamfollower]

24. Nope, you are the one misremembering

They propped up Trump every day after he won the nomination.

EVERY DAMNED DAY!

Trump had a bad day, they hit Hillary harder.

They are Trump's friends and have been for YEARS!

I don't buy a damned word either of them have to say now.

[Cosmocat]

49. ah, bullshit

It has been a non-stop vacillation between them kissing his ass one day and them going into histrionics like this the next.

Mika spent a year and a half meekly murmuring "I am voting for Hillary" before going on 10 minute dismissive rants about her.

Generallly for the last decade and specifically with 45 and Rs this last election they play their two bit theatre of normalizing 45 and right wing lunacy while hate framing liberals.

Yeah, this is functionally the dimwit exposing himself black mailing them, but they were black mailed because they were compromised, both personally with each other AND with him.

Its snakes turning on one another.

If it helps to bring 45 down, so be it.

But, Mike and Joe aren't "victims" here anymore than Manafort, or any of the dozens, hell countless puke bags who have gotten into bed with him.

[Squinch]

25. They smeared Clinton at every chance they got and they let him call the shots when he appeared

on their show - there's tapes of them agreeing to softball him in interviews. They were very good buddies during the campaign, and the show was very pro Trump and anti Clinton.

And yes. It is terrible that he is personally attacking media figures. I have never said it was not. But we all know who Trump(R) is and has always been. They bear responsibility for the fact that he is in a position to do what he is doing now.

[Honeycombe8]

26. Not true. They were NOT buddies during the election.

They were balanced while both candidates were running for nominations, but once Trump's real issues became apparent, THEY WERE AMONG THE FIRST TO BLATANTLY POINT THAT OUT. To the point that Trump refused to go on the show anymore.

You are misremembering.

It's not their JOB to cheerlead for either, BTW. It's also irrelevant. You're looking to blame the victim. (She got raped? Oh, well, look at how short her skirt was!)

[Foamfollower]

28. IT * IS * SHOW * BUSINESS!!!

It's all fucking fake!

[Honeycombe8]

31. When someone is wrong....

HE resorts to comments like "It's all FUCKIN' FAKE!" Who does that remind you of?

Now I get it.

[Foamfollower]

32. I'm not wrong at ALL

These three people have been close friends for YEARS!

Just like Trump has been friends with Vince McMahon for DECADES!!!

IT IS SHOW BUSINESS!!!

[Squinch]

33. I also find it interesting how people talk about Trump(R)'s real issues emerging sometime

late in the game.

Trump(R) has been Trump(R) since at least the 1980's. He's been scamming and grifting and stealing and stiffing people for decades. He has a million documentable and provable lies out there - huge lies. Huge thefts. And speaking of rape, Ivana is on record saying that he raped her and anyone with half a brain can see that her retraction was made only after financial pressure was applied to her. He ruined an army of people for DECADES. Trump(R)'s issues were apparent FOR DECADES before he announced.

Joe and Mika are fully aware of that. They somehow conveniently ignored that along with the rest of the media and never reported it, because that's one of his greatest cons. Trump(R) knows that people will do whatever he wants if they think they can profit from his scams.

There are no victims in this. There are schoolyard children throwing taunts where there should be a President and a media.

[Honeycombe8]

39. It's not the media's job to report on some r.e. NY guy's failings.

He became important only when he ran for President. It was at that point that the media stepped up the game and DID start reporting on it.

Trump & Joe/Mika had a falling out end of 2015. THAT'S when they started homing in on his failings to the point where Trump blew a gasket. That was pretty early. They both stated openly end of 2015 that neither of them could ever vote for him.

People have selective memories and believe what htey want to believe. If someone isn't a cheerleader for THEIR guy, they assume they're in the tank for the other. If someone doesn't criticize someone with every breath, they assume they're in that person's corner.

IT WAS BECAUSE OF THE MEDIA THAT WE KNOW WHAT WE KNOW, and that started years ago.

But there was a change during the Obama administration. I've heard it reported that Trump started the birther game. Not true. He jumped on the bandwagon, but did not start it. It was odd. He started changing at that point, and changed more noticeably during the primary. I have watched Trump sort of, through the years. But didn't watch his reality show except a couple of times.
He changed in the primary, or his real self emerged more. It was during the primary that I caught on to his character. And of course, his character became important ONLY because he became a viable candidate.

Joe & Mika were "friends" of his. Rich men court friends in the media and other power places. But they dropped him like a hot potato during the primary...on tv, in front of the nation, and were very critical of him.

There is a victim here. It's all women. Just like racism, I went onto a freeper site and saw anti-female posts the likes that I have never seen by freepers. Trump has unleashed anti-female and violent and racist sentiment. It's okay to be these abhorrent things, now.

[Squinch]

47. No, there was no falling out until much later than 2015. And after the falling out, they became

buddies once again for a while:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/29/business/trump-tweets-mika-brzezinski-joe-scarborough.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

And YES IT IS the media's job to report on A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE'S DECADES LONG STRING OF CRIMINAL ACTS!!! And no, that was not reported. It is still only very thinly reported.

And no, two camps of idiots trading creepy barbs really doesn't make me, a woman, a victim. Your mileage may vary.

[Foamfollower]

27. And now he's body slamming Mika and shaving Joe's head

[Honeycombe8]

6. I disagree. This is a personal attack by the President on a citizen...

in response to criticism of his policy and lies. This is an historical first, as far as I know. It's important. It's also a pattern of browbeating and personally attacking WOMEN.

What is he'd made statements in a pattern of attacking the appearance of, say, black people? Or Hispanics? Or Asians? You don't think that would be something that should be acted on?

[George II]

12. I'm watching them now, it's stunning what they're revealing about how trump has tried....

....to blackmail them and how he's gotten the National Enquirer to harass Mika's daughters.

[KingCharlemagne]

14. Another particular in the (future) Article of Impeachment alleging

abuse of power.

[The Wielding Truth]

18. On one hand a nasty shiny object and on the other a nasty attack that should be debunked and shamed.

I say that the Gossip King should be shamed.

[tavernier]

8. I am.

[George II]

9. You sound like Sarah Huckabee Sanders

[Foamfollower]

15. It's Trump's pro wrestling personae

And all it is out there for is to prop up ratings and distract from the real issues, like the failures in the middle east, with health care, and every other failure the POS has had since taking office.

He'd rather be called a woman hater than a failure. He can accept the woman hater moniker because he relishes being a woman hater.

And the Morning Joe show loves the ratings boost.

Remember, these two idiots were supportive of the orange asshat during the election.

[BumRushDaShow]

11. There's no business

like show business -

[Foamfollower]

29. Did you see him body slam Mika?

Next he'll shave Joe's head!

[BumRushDaShow]

34. Yeah he's a big man

a big fucking lecherous man.

[LenaBaby61]

30. "I'm not getting caught up in the Mika/Joe vs. Trump Pro Rasslin' smack talk Bull."

Totally agree with you op.

NOTHING BURGER, and things will STAY the same, treasonous, mentally-ill tRumputin will continue getting away with his abnormal, nasty, filthy behavior, ignorance, racism sexism, eating and tweeting. thuglicans have is FAT back so they can continue destroying this country.

Meh @ Mika & Joe's "act" this morning. I haven't watched them in 7 years until this show. I haven't missed ANYTHING I see. Uh, weren't thy all chummy not that long ago? Yeah, they were

Time for bed

[Watchfoxheadexplodes]

35. Well head over to fox

They think this is a nothing story also.

[Foamfollower]

36. They are ignoring it.

I'm calling it out for the fake pro wrestling bullshit to prop up Morning Joe ratings and distract from the real issues that it is.

[oasis]

37. Trump values loyalty over everything. Joe and Mika crossed him.

That's the real story here.

[BigDemVoter]

38. I hate Moaning Ho, and I'm not a fan of his fiancee either.

I will ALWAYS remember how snarky they were during the entire election.

Of course I will take most anybody's side when it comes to a dispute with Pussy Grabber, but it doesn't mean I like or trust either of them. They're both deplorable, and I don't give damn that Mika is supposedly a "Dem", as I don't believe it.

[Bradical79]

41. It's not pro wrestling

Going to post what I did in another thread:

It doesn't make Trump's actions any less abhorrent, and I'm not interested in distracting from that with atacks on their character. It's counterproductive.

Also, I'll add that attempting blackmail and going after their children is more serious than just his Twitter rants.

[Greybnk48]

42. Mika and Joe were always in his corner.

I don't trust that this is a "real" feud.

[HAB911]

43. Trump: Read my tweets while I rob you

GOP: Worry about Trump while we gut healthcare


Putin: Watch the chaos while I hack western democracy

Link to tweet

[inwiththenew]

44. I'm waiting for Trump to go on the show and hit Joe with a folding chair

Should be great for rating.

[Kaleva]

45. Trash key words is your friend

[SweetieD]

46. This is a huge story and could bring Trump down for good. It sounded like he

orchestrated a harassment and blackmail campaign against private citizens. That is a crime.

[LanternWaste]

48. my powers of prophecy are not so great as yours.

I'll keep my ears and eyes open in regards to what the office of the President does and says... my powers of prophecy are not so great as yours, and I rarely cast the bones of birds into a bowl for guidance.

Some distractions are a cause, others are simply an effect. Lot's of clever little fellas out there pretending to know which is which, and basing a conclusion on that pretense.

Lot's of clever little fellas out there pretending to know what is or is not worthy everyone else's consideration.

But I'll give credit where due... yours is an efficient manner to minimize Trump's actions as beyond our care, beyond our review, or beyond our examination.