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yardwork

(61,588 posts)
Fri Jun 30, 2017, 07:40 AM Jun 2017

Joe and Mika only care about themselves. They're mad at Trump because he hasn't delivered.

Trump was supposed to bring tax breaks to rich people. Joe Scarborough is a right wing Republican. He and Mika want their tax breaks. They want the Wall and military contracts and all the other deals that would pump up Wall Street that Trump promised to his rich Republican voters.

The only reason they're attacking Trump now is because he's so inadequate, he can't even fulfill his campaign promises.

All the rich Republicans are trying to push Trump out now and replace him with Pence.

Don't be fooled. These people don't care about morals or kindness or human decency. They're in it for themselves.

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Joe and Mika only care about themselves. They're mad at Trump because he hasn't delivered. (Original Post) yardwork Jun 2017 OP
I think they also are chagrinned that they backed the wrong horse. They thought they'd Squinch Jun 2017 #1
The Republicans are going to dump Trump because he hasn't delivered. yardwork Jun 2017 #3
They backed the right horse oberliner Jun 2017 #6
Agreed. I think maybe Joe was even angling for an appointment. Tatiana Jun 2017 #35
Agree yardwork ... LenaBaby61 Jun 2017 #2
They just want money. They don't care about anything else. yardwork Jun 2017 #4
Except Mika said repeatedly she would be/has voted for Clinton. (Nt) JaneQPublic Jun 2017 #5
Except she regularly had Trump on her show oberliner Jun 2017 #7
Yeah, news shows tend to have candidates on. JaneQPublic Jun 2017 #9
Not by phone oberliner Jun 2017 #10
Actually, Trump was calling into any number of live news shows. (nt) JaneQPublic Jun 2017 #12
Yes, exactly oberliner Jun 2017 #13
I agree that ALL TV news gave Trump far too much free air time. JaneQPublic Jun 2017 #14
Their nefarious behavior during the campaign speaks for itself. yardwork Jun 2017 #23
Except Joe was so allied with the Trump(R) campaign that he was considered for VP at one point. Squinch Jun 2017 #11
It was a response to a hypothetical question posed by Hugh Hewitt JaneQPublic Jun 2017 #16
What Is This New Thing Called Video? SoCalMusicLover Jun 2017 #27
Ha! Those newfangled contraptions! (nt) JaneQPublic Jun 2017 #30
The impact of Mika's "reporting" was to elect Trump. yardwork Jun 2017 #20
They are upset because he made them look like fools. They are embarrassed they sucked up to a pig. nikibatts Jun 2017 #8
I don;t really disagree, but... Adrahil Jun 2017 #15
Their end game is to install Pence and sweep everything under the rug. yardwork Jun 2017 #19
WE're a bit doomed no matter what... Adrahil Jun 2017 #25
I don't care Bradical79 Jun 2017 #17
We should all care because Pence will be worse. yardwork Jun 2017 #18
Domestic policy is Mike pence MiddleClass Jun 2017 #24
Pence is going to launch nukes in a fit of pique? jberryhill Jun 2017 #31
I believe that Pence is as well. Our only hope is regaining Congress. yardwork Jun 2017 #34
Thank YOU! smirkymonkey Jun 2017 #21
What shit are you sick of? People criticizing Republicans. yardwork Jun 2017 #33
No, he is not my pal. But I think we have better targets to go after than smirkymonkey Jun 2017 #36
Lol. Posting on a message board isn't "going after" anybody. yardwork Jun 2017 #39
The Repub infighting is great for us. Kaleva Jun 2017 #22
So? Sanity Claws Jun 2017 #26
Did this only recently come to your attention? Really? yardwork Jun 2017 #32
? Sanity Claws Jun 2017 #37
In your post yardwork Jun 2017 #38
I'm glad they are mad at Trump. They are supporting the narrative that we have been building. nt. NCTraveler Jun 2017 #28
They're ambitious middle-of-the-roaders BeyondGeography Jun 2017 #29
Bullshit Hamlette Jun 2017 #40

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
1. I think they also are chagrinned that they backed the wrong horse. They thought they'd
Fri Jun 30, 2017, 07:45 AM
Jun 2017

be the insider media for Trump(R)'s white house because they carried his water during the campaign. They found out that he's disloyal and they are embarrassed by the fact that Trump(R) is acting like Trump(R). And they are so stupid that it surprises them.

yardwork

(61,588 posts)
3. The Republicans are going to dump Trump because he hasn't delivered.
Fri Jun 30, 2017, 08:23 AM
Jun 2017

They will install Pence as president. They will blame both Obama and Trump for all the problems facing the country, and Republican controlled Congress will enact draconian policies that give even more to the super rich who fund their reelection campaigns. These donations come in from all over the world thanks to the right wing Supreme Court's campaign funding decisions.

The fix is in.

About a month ago Joe Scarborough told his viewers that Trump is a Democrat. Watch for more of that.

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
35. Agreed. I think maybe Joe was even angling for an appointment.
Fri Jun 30, 2017, 05:44 PM
Jun 2017

Somehow they thought they were different from Christie or Giuliani or Gingrich or Palin or... yeah there's a long list of a$$kissers punked by Trump.

I actually don't think Mika bought any of what Trump had to offer, but was willing to sell herself (and her principles) for her romantic partner.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
2. Agree yardwork ...
Fri Jun 30, 2017, 07:53 AM
Jun 2017

I'm NOT fooled by their little "act."

They were thick as thieves with tRumputin not long ago.

JaneQPublic

(7,113 posts)
5. Except Mika said repeatedly she would be/has voted for Clinton. (Nt)
Fri Jun 30, 2017, 08:27 AM
Jun 2017

She had misgivings about Hillary but always said she backed her over Trump.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
7. Except she regularly had Trump on her show
Fri Jun 30, 2017, 08:28 AM
Jun 2017

And accused Hillary of trying to get her fired (among other things).

JaneQPublic

(7,113 posts)
9. Yeah, news shows tend to have candidates on.
Fri Jun 30, 2017, 08:30 AM
Jun 2017

If you've been watching since the election, both Mika and Joe have been eviscerating Trump on a daily basis.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
10. Not by phone
Fri Jun 30, 2017, 08:31 AM
Jun 2017

In fact, news shows generally refuse to allow phone-only appearances by candidates.

Trump was somehow an exception to the "call-in" rule.

Edit to add: Of course they have been attacking him since the election. If Hillary had won, they would be attacking her. That's what drives the ratings.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
13. Yes, exactly
Fri Jun 30, 2017, 08:35 AM
Jun 2017

All the other stations made the same Trump exception. He was great for ratings on CNN, MSNBC, you name it. They are all responsible in enabling and normalizing his candidacy.

Morning Trump in particular, though, to the point that Trump thanked them for their support (embarrassingly).

Joe and Mika have also admitted to being years-long friends with Trump.

JaneQPublic

(7,113 posts)
14. I agree that ALL TV news gave Trump far too much free air time.
Fri Jun 30, 2017, 08:56 AM
Jun 2017

Studies have shown it's true that, throughout the election, TV news programs devoted much more time to Trump, even disrupting their planned programming to accept his phone call and let him bloviate on air to his heart's content.

I didn't like Joe and Mika either before the election, particularly because Joe kept insisting that Trump really did have a chance of winning.

But repeatedly -- even on today's show -- they have acknowledged being friends with Trump for 12 years. But as someone who normally would change the channel to CNN to avoid J&M, I've actually been quite amazed in recent months how they've been spending almost every morning thoroughly raking Trump over the coals.

I just think if you're going to accuse them of such nefarious motives, you should at least present evidence beyond the same failings committed by nearly every TV news show through the election.

yardwork

(61,588 posts)
23. Their nefarious behavior during the campaign speaks for itself.
Fri Jun 30, 2017, 12:41 PM
Jun 2017

They repeatedly normalized Trump and his behavior, while continually making more of Hillary's issues than was warranted by the facts.

Mika repeatedly made a false equivalency between the two candidates' weaknesses.

Now all of a sudden Mika has noticed that Trump's behavior is outrageous? She never noticed before? Please.

 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
27. What Is This New Thing Called Video?
Fri Jun 30, 2017, 12:58 PM
Jun 2017

Why is it that people can go back to old video and call me on my Shit years later?

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
15. I don;t really disagree, but...
Fri Jun 30, 2017, 09:00 AM
Jun 2017

AS with George Will and Bill Krystal, I think the enemy of my enemy is my friend at the moment.

yardwork

(61,588 posts)
19. Their end game is to install Pence and sweep everything under the rug.
Fri Jun 30, 2017, 12:37 PM
Jun 2017

Their goal is the tax breaks and dismantling the government. Trump is failing to deliver. They'll dump him and bring in Pence.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
25. WE're a bit doomed no matter what...
Fri Jun 30, 2017, 12:54 PM
Jun 2017

But I want Trump utterly disgraced. Hopefully we can make enough inroads in 2018 to blunt what remains of a Pence Presidency.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
17. I don't care
Fri Jun 30, 2017, 09:08 AM
Jun 2017

Doesn't make Trump's actions any less abhorrent, and I'm not interested in distracting from that with atacks on their character. It's counterproductive.

yardwork

(61,588 posts)
18. We should all care because Pence will be worse.
Fri Jun 30, 2017, 12:35 PM
Jun 2017

Watch what they all do, not what they say. This is theatre.

MiddleClass

(888 posts)
24. Domestic policy is Mike pence
Fri Jun 30, 2017, 12:49 PM
Jun 2017

Remember the deal that was offered. Kasich.

You could handle domestic and foreign policies. If you become my vice president.

What will you be doing Mister Trump.

Well I'll be making America great again!

My bet would be Mike Pence got the same offer

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
31. Pence is going to launch nukes in a fit of pique?
Fri Jun 30, 2017, 01:59 PM
Jun 2017

Donald Trump is an existential danger to humanity.

yardwork

(61,588 posts)
33. What shit are you sick of? People criticizing Republicans.
Fri Jun 30, 2017, 05:39 PM
Jun 2017

Joe Scarborough is not my pal. Is he yours?

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
36. No, he is not my pal. But I think we have better targets to go after than
Fri Jun 30, 2017, 05:49 PM
Jun 2017

people who are making Trump look bad in the media, regardless of their affiliation or former ties w/ Trump. Going after Joe and Mika is pointless. It does us no good and gives ammunition to those who wish to make Trumps sick tweets and misogyny seem like a mere trifle.

yardwork

(61,588 posts)
39. Lol. Posting on a message board isn't "going after" anybody.
Fri Jun 30, 2017, 06:11 PM
Jun 2017

Mika and Joe did their part to normalize Trump's atrocious behavior. I'm not going to fawn on them now that it's no longer expedient for them to ignore it.

Sanity Claws

(21,846 posts)
26. So?
Fri Jun 30, 2017, 12:56 PM
Jun 2017

Why should I care whether this or that is their motive? The point is that we have a President who is into blackmailing the media in order to stop negative coverage of him.

We all should be concerned about this, regardless of how it came to our attention.

Sanity Claws

(21,846 posts)
37. ?
Fri Jun 30, 2017, 05:50 PM
Jun 2017

I am totally puzzled by what you wrote. Who said anything about recent discovery? How did you ever come up with this?

BeyondGeography

(39,369 posts)
29. They're ambitious middle-of-the-roaders
Fri Jun 30, 2017, 01:01 PM
Jun 2017

Nothing more or less. Occasionally useful and infuriating. Mostly harmless TV people but today they're actually helping.

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