republicans now talking about repealing Obamacare and replace 'later'

[spanone]

this is what they've wanted all along....destroy healthcare...they will replace 'never'

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[Loki Liesmith]

1. Lol. Yes do that please.

We'll have single payer in two years.

[wasupaloopa]

5. So how many people will die for lack of insurance in those two years.

I want single payer too but not at the cost of more lives lost. It seems to me the single payer hawks are as self serving as the repeal Obamacare hawks. Just two sides of the same coin.

[Loki Liesmith]

10. I agree

Just pointing out it's s stupid strategic move. It won't happen because Republicans, apart from Rand Paul, aren't that dumb.

[samrockfish]

9. You are naive if you think so..

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It will take a Democratic president, a Democratic house and senate with 60+ to get single payer ( unless they do away with the filibuster)...

[Loki Liesmith]

12. All we'd need is real control of the houses of congress

Which we'd have if they did this.

Trump will sign anything that comes his way. He's that desperate for an achievement.

[DLevine]

14. Democratic. nt

[tavernier]

23. Thank you.

You would think that would be a huge red flag to any DUer.

[Wounded Bear]

19. Be even easier with DemocratIC pres, house, senate...

If you don't want people to think you're a sock puppet, troll, or bot, don't use RW terminology in your posts.

[David__77]

21. How would that work?

I'm asking because I don't know. What would be the crisis that would lead to such an event?

[Loki Liesmith]

25. Massive losses by GOP in 2018

bc millions thrown off their healthcare plan without even a fig leaf replacement.

As i said above, Trump will sign anything Congress passess if it counts as an achievement. He has no ideological rudder.

[David__77]

27. I used to think he had no ideological rudder. Now I don't know about that.

If he really wanted to "be popular," I think he might have instead truly been "populist" and advocated for certain tax increases that would impact wealthier people, repealing NAFTA, and reinstating the original Glass-Steagall. He would have probably neutralized a great amount of Democratic opposition in doing so.

[YCHDT]

2. They'll do it too, they fired Comey in part because they thought both sides hated Comey to the point

... of thinking it was OK to fire him for investigating Russia.

These people are rich trash, stupid rich trash

[procon]

3. Can't wait to see how the CBO scores that bit of Republican idiocy. nt

[exboyfil]

4. Go for it: Hey hey hey, goodbye

2018 will be a blood bath.

[Shell_Seas]

6. What that really means is:

Goodbye insurance.

[spanone]

7. exactly...republicans HATE social programs that help anybody.

[C_U_L8R]

8. I've seen that strategy before

Proceed, Republicans.

[NCTraveler]

11. They won't do it.

Bring it up for a vote. It will throw Republicans into even deeper chaos. Of course Paul agrees with Trump on this and he didn't need to talk to Republican leaders for them to know where Paul stands.

[athena]

13. That would mean the return of preexisting conditions and annual maxima

not to mention lifetime limits. And the millions of people who got insurance under the ACA would lose it.

Let's see how far they get with this. They're not as clever as they think they are.

[spanone]

15. i think this would destroy them and throw the healthcare world into total chaos

[mackdaddy]

16. They do not need to repeal it. The Repubs and killing ACA through th death of a thousand cuts!

I just got my letter that my Health insurance company is pulling out of my county here in rural Ohio. This is the second company pulling out (Anthem BC/BS, Med Mutual was first.) This will leave my county with NO ACA options. First little Marco Rubio slid an amendment into an un-related bill a couple of years ago that pulled "risk corridors" or government re-insurance guarantees for ACA insurers, and now all this turmoil in the repeal and replace drama is making it so the insurance companies can't figure out what to charge or what will happen so they are getting out due to the risk.

Fucking republicans would set a car on fire because it had a flat tire and won't go when they slashed the tires.

Here is a story about a third insurer pulling out of Ohio, leaving 20 counties un-insured.
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/ohio/articles/2017-06-30/2nd-insurer-in-a-month-leaves-health-care-exchange-in-ohio

[Tanuki]

17. Trumpcare in a nutshell:

[Mellomugwump]

18. I almost think that would be better...

They're sabotaging Obamacare, so that it is in a death spiral. I'd rather they repeal it, than have people believe that Obamacare is a failure.

People are going to be screwed either way, I'd rather the republicans got the blame that they deserve.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

28. Experts actually disagree that it's currently in a "death spiral"

It's got issues but it's still here and helping people, albeit not as well as it could. A LOT of those issues (maybe all of them) would go away if Republicans weren't intentionally sabotaging it. IMHO Democrats need to signal willingness to work with GOP to fix ACA but should otherwise remain steadfast in their unwillingness to work with Republicans to pass some version of ACHA and/or repealing ACA entirely. Mentioning the INTENTIONAL Republican sabotage of ACA whenever possible and how it is creating a lot of the problems people are currently experiencing in some areas with ACA would be helpful too. If Republicans choose to ram something through Congress and it becomes law, Democrats can't do much other than protest and attack Republicans for it- and Republicans will wind up owning all of the disastrous consequences thereof.

[Johonny]

20. I feel safer with Rand Paul and Trump being the leaders on this

The only man with less pull on the senate is Ted Cruz.

[WinkyDink]

22. If they even TRY, it's Party suicide.

[spanone]

24. agreed.

but they are not the brightest bunch.

after seven years of bitching and running against the affordable care act, their plan is to destroy medicare....how wrong can they be?

[Proud Liberal Dem]

26. If they try to do this

they will need 60 votes, which they'll never have, amirite?


Don't people burn in hell for suggesting stuff like this anymore?