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DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 10:18 AM Jul 2017

Look at Trump's wrestling-gif from the pov of a teacher:

Imagine, one your students, student A, is not getting along with other students. There are always arguments and they accuse each other of lying all the time. He's regularly picking on student B.

Student A then doodles a picture of him beating up student B and hangs it into the hallway of the school. When confronted by the teachers, he claims that he hung it up for fun. He claims that he had no intention of threatening to beat up student B.



Now, would you say that student A is a problematic student?
Would you say, this is the behaviour of a bully?
Would you say that his parents should be notified immediately and that he needs special treatment apart from other students?

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Orrex

(63,172 posts)
2. In most schools, the doodler would be suspended or expelled
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 12:14 PM
Jul 2017

If I drew a similar doodle about a coworker, I'd be fired outright.


But Trump? It's only a joke, just like sexual assault or barging in on naked teenagers in their dressing room.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
3. If they said the things Trump said on the Access Hollywood tape
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 12:15 PM
Jul 2017

They would be in even more serious trouble.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
5. As a teacher, I would say "DeVos Is Discarding College Policies That New Evidence Shows Are Effectiv
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 12:28 PM
Jul 2017
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/06/30/upshot/new-evidence-shows-devos-is-discarding-college-policies-that-are-effective.html

In June, the secretary of education, Betsy DeVos, announced plans to dismantle a set of Obama-era policies devised to protect students and taxpayers from predatory for-profit colleges.

Yet data released in the final days of the previous administration shows that the existing rules have proved more effective at shutting down bad college programs than even the most optimistic backers could have hoped.


And then I'd point out that neither CNN nor Trump are schoolchildren drawing mean doodles, but they HAVE successfully gotten us to watch twenty year old reruns of wrestling while real, actual damage is being done to real, actual students, such as in the above-referenced article and one from the day before it, in which Ms. Devoss claims that the Department of Education has no business protecting LGBTQ students.

Caliman73

(11,726 posts)
8. As a teacher I would say that students learn math, science, history, English, etc... all in one day.
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 01:33 PM
Jul 2017

Translation: We can focus on more than one issue. I understand that you are saying that the DeVos issue is an important one and your contention seems to be that the Trump tweet is not, or at least not as important as the DeVos issue. I argue that both issues are very important and should receive attention and discussion.

For the media, the cheap thrill is the tweet, however, the analysis should be more than that. Trump retweeted a depiction of violence against the media (CNN in particular) but he has been attacking press that does not agree with him or paint him in a favorable light. That should worry everyone because it further normalizes and solidifies the very common strategy of authoritarian regimes, to discredit all but those agencies that strictly favor them. Instead of focusing on the salacious details, the focus should be that attack.

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