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babylonsister

(171,048 posts)
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 06:50 PM Jul 2017

Robert Reich: There's a More Frightening Possibility Than Trump Is Just Nuts

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/robert-reich-theres-more-frightening-possibility-trump-just-nuts


Robert Reich: There's a More Frightening Possibility Than Trump Is Just Nuts
The former secretary of labor dissects the president's bizarre wrestling tweet.
By Robert Reich / RobertReich.org
July 3, 2017, 5:34 AM GMT

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But I fear an even more menacing reality.

Trump began his presidency attacking the press for “fake news.” Then he called the networks and publications that criticized him “enemies of the people.”

His new attacks seem to be going a step farther, mobilizing his supporters against media personalities and executives that are critical of him.

As the tweets and rallies become shriller and more provocative, their clear message is that Trump’s critics are bad people who are conspiring to undo his presidency – people whom Trump supporters must “not let” silence him, who deserve to be slammed the way Trump took it out on CNN in the mock video he posted Sunday morning.

It’s a narrative that’s showing up increasingly on right-wing websites.

In one recent video from the National Rifle Association, for example, Dana Loesch, an N.R.A. spokeswoman and former editor at Breitbart News, charges that a left-wing cabal “use their media to assassinate real news. They use their schools to teach children that their president is another Hitler. They use their movie stars and singers and comedy shows and award shows to repeat their narrative over and over again.”

As black-and-white images of recent protests play in the background, Loesch says “the only way we stop this, the only way we save our country, and our freedom, is to fight this violence of lies with a clenched fist of truth.”

This “clenched fist” theme is being legitimized by the President of the United States who’s on a warpath against news organizations and professionals who criticize him.

Will news organizations be intimidated? Probably not, at least not at this point. But we may be on a slippery path. Trump’s increasingly incendiary tweets and messages constitute an overt assault on freedom of the press, the cornerstone of our democracy.

Whether you agree or disagree with Donald Trump’s policies, all of us must stand up against this.
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Robert Reich: There's a More Frightening Possibility Than Trump Is Just Nuts (Original Post) babylonsister Jul 2017 OP
'Trumps increasingly incendiary tweets and messages constitute an overt assault on freedom elleng Jul 2017 #1
K&R Solly Mack Jul 2017 #2
The direction. Snackshack Jul 2017 #3
They are inciting civil war Danmel Jul 2017 #4
It's pathetic isn't it? FakeNoose Jul 2017 #5
Oh, there are younger versions of themselves in the wings. defacto7 Jul 2017 #6
Trump, Flynn, and Bannon want to ditch American democracy. oasis Jul 2017 #7
I think he's right BainsBane Jul 2017 #8
I wrote in another thread what I was seeing, which is exactly what Reich is saying. dixiegrrrrl Jul 2017 #12
I don't believe Pence is worse BainsBane Jul 2017 #13
This whole Trump thing is surreal, and Reich is right. PatrickforO Jul 2017 #9
K&R orangecrush Jul 2017 #10
Absolutely, we must stand. summer_in_TX Jul 2017 #11
President is a would be autocrat like Putin, Chavez, Ergodan sharedvalues Jul 2017 #14
Reich is correct. I recommend reading Timothy Snyder's little book, On Tyranny. mnhtnbb Jul 2017 #15
so whatever happened bdamomma Jul 2017 #17
He's not just nuts, he's just a nuts zie. Mc Mike Jul 2017 #16

elleng

(130,825 posts)
1. 'Trumps increasingly incendiary tweets and messages constitute an overt assault on freedom
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 06:55 PM
Jul 2017

of the press, the cornerstone of our democracy.

Whether you agree or disagree with Donald Trump’s policies, all of us must stand up against this.'

Snackshack

(2,541 posts)
3. The direction.
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 07:04 PM
Jul 2017

Republicans/conservatives are steering their base to is very clear. It was clear during DT rallies and since being elected. Over the past couple months I have read news reports about two Democratic candidates running to replace DT appointments who have dropped their campaigns because of threats and intimidation. This not going to stop, I fear it is going to get worse.

FakeNoose

(32,613 posts)
5. It's pathetic isn't it?
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 07:47 PM
Jul 2017

They're so old, so weak, so outnumbered, and they're scared shitless.

Most of these old white guys will be dead in 10 years, including Trump.

All we have to do it wait them out.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
6. Oh, there are younger versions of themselves in the wings.
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 08:17 PM
Jul 2017

If they can screw democracy well enough in the next couple of years and we aren't on top of it now, the new conservative extremists can step in.
There is no waiting time.

oasis

(49,365 posts)
7. Trump, Flynn, and Bannon want to ditch American democracy.
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 08:38 PM
Jul 2017

Over these past months it has been made abundantly clear. The GOP congress is in denial.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
12. I wrote in another thread what I was seeing, which is exactly what Reich is saying.
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 11:53 PM
Jul 2017

use of external enemies is an ancient trick to sway the people you are hoodwinking, and it does not matter if that external enemy is another political party in your own country.

That man has to go. and we can't have Pence he is even worse in so many ways.

BainsBane

(53,026 posts)
13. I don't believe Pence is worse
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 11:57 PM
Jul 2017

He's part the Christian far right, but I don't think he has Trump's authoritarian tendency and complete disregard for the institutions of democracy.

PatrickforO

(14,566 posts)
9. This whole Trump thing is surreal, and Reich is right.
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 09:13 PM
Jul 2017

If we don't keep our shit together, we will go the way of the Weimar Republic. The Trump administration has already put the word out to private for-profit prisons - they want a gulag archipelago with these for-profit concentration camps all over the USA to house the 11 million people the administration intends to round up.

Everything Bannon is doing is to dismantle our democracy because he is operating under a religious ideology. He wants to precipitate an apocalyptic war between Islam and Christianity so that the survivors of whichever is strongest can climb up out of the ashes of worldwide destruction.

Seriously. This is what the motherfucker wants.

I was speaking to a friend of mine who holds local elected office. She happens to be Jewish and we were talking about the camps. I told her about the Bannon apocalypse and said that since I'm not a Christian, I really don't feel like I want to be part of Bannon's wet dream fantasy.

She quipped, "Oh, we won't be part of it...we'll be in the camps!"

summer_in_TX

(2,727 posts)
11. Absolutely, we must stand.
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 11:18 PM
Jul 2017

I recall what my friend John said right after the shooting at the GOP members of Congress. "We are headed toward Civil War, and they have more guns. Won't end well."

Three of us were talking, the day we heard the news: a conservative, a liberal, and an independent. (He's the latter.) He acknowledged the violence and provocations didn't start with the left, but since the election of Trump violent protests from the left have increased. (The conservative saw the worst behavior as coming from the left - not a bad person but Faux-news impaired.)

John's point seemed right to me: not only do they have more guns, the culture many have espoused supports a visceral hatred and distrust of us, and it's been nurtured by the likes of Alex Jones, Rush and others for a long time.

Anger and violence beget more of it, not resolution or reconciliation.

Let us stand in such a way that we stay on the right side of history and harness the forces of truth, justice, goodness, and all the best ideals of America. There's true power there.

As a teen I saw it at work during the Civil Rights Movement and it was powerfully attractive. Soul-force. Satyagraha. Ghandhi harnessed it to free India from the British Empire a generation earlier.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
14. President is a would be autocrat like Putin, Chavez, Ergodan
Tue Jul 4, 2017, 09:58 AM
Jul 2017

Putin, Chavez, Erdogan all were democratically elected then attacked the media to control public opinion.

That's what we're seeing from this president. Whether it's intentional or not, the president is using the autocrat playbook, and he's supported by the GOP.

Reich is right. And it's not just a possibility, the attack on our democracy is real.

mnhtnbb

(31,381 posts)
15. Reich is correct. I recommend reading Timothy Snyder's little book, On Tyranny.
Tue Jul 4, 2017, 10:24 AM
Jul 2017

It is critical that we all stand up for the Constitutional right of the free press.

Nothing is "fake" about telling truth to power. Just because he doesn't like the criticism of him, or the press calling out his lies, does
not make it "fake", or the lies any less untrue.

Trump is the biggest threat to this country we've seen in a very long time. And as for Dana Loesch, my advice to her is to go suck on one
of those guns she loves so much.

bdamomma

(63,812 posts)
17. so whatever happened
Tue Jul 4, 2017, 10:38 AM
Jul 2017

with I will protect the country under foreign and domestic forces, why is this man still in office?? Don the con is a true threat to everyone.

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