CNN: We have transcripts of calls between Kushner, Bannon and high level Russian officials

[L. Coyote]

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[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. CNN hasn't said they have transcripts.

Taylor and Mensch say CNN says they have transcripts. Big difference. When CNN itself comes out with them I'll believe it.

[ananda]

60. Exactly!

Same here -- I'll believe it when the tapes are produced as evidence
and not before!

[Flaleftist]

2. Misleading title. nt

[WhiskeyGrinder]

3. There's a big difference between CNN tweeting they have something, and some guy tweeing that someone

at CNN told him that CNN has something.

[jberryhill]

4. Almost as if the subject line was misleading.

[exboyfil]

6. Should the thread be alerted?

It makes this community look stupid.

[Demsrule86]

35. No, if you don't like it, don't read it. NT

[ProudDem78]

10. Maaannn

Man you can't post a fake headline...quit giving those republicans a reason to say "fake news"! I can't wait for Mueller to expose the truth though...only a matter of time

[Demsrule86]

37. They will say it anyway...and it may be true.

[Va Lefty]

5. This could be why he's railing against CNN or it could be "Fitzmas"

[First Speaker]

7. My feeling is, if these tapes existed, they'd have leaked by now...

...which makes me pretty sure they don't exist. Alas.

[4139]

8. I know where the tapes are.... they're with Louisa Mensch' s pile of indictments

[bettyellen]

31. You don't think the IC has hours and hours of Russians in tape?

[First Speaker]

59. Beats me. I sure hope so. But I've seen too many examples of wishful thinking...

...both in regard to this mess, and the Bush administration--remember "Fitzmas"?--that it makes me wary. Investigations leak, and if there were tapes, I can't believe that somebody wouldn't have discreetly put it out on the internet before now. I have no doubts at all that the charges are true. So we can only hope...and no one would be happier than me if I'm wrong...

[HipChick]

9. Title is misleading...

[oberliner]

11. OP title is a lie

CNN has not said anything of the kind.

[L. Coyote]

12. Not to you, obviously.

Just because it wasn't said to you doesn't mean it wasn't said.

[onenote]

14. And just because Claude Taylor says it was said doesn't mean it was said

Wanna know why I doubt Taylor? Because if a senior exec at CNN wanted to leak this story, he'd leak it to someone with a bit more cred in the world of journalism than Claude Taylor.

[oberliner]

21. Or anyone else

CNN has made no such claim or statement.

[AngryAmish]

13. Yet...

[Ellipsis]

15. Well... CNN hasn't denied it and the story has been up for some time.

THAT, speaks volumes.



That being said.... The OP is misleading.

[LittleBlue]

16. Release them now

Going through this "we have x but aren't releasing it" for the better part of a year now, I want to see it. Enough of this hiding stuff from the public shit.

[MyNameIsKhan]

17. Misleading thread... but I hope it is true

[Glimmer of Hope]

18. Please change your title for those who are not on the Mensch or Taylor train. Thx.

[L. Coyote]

23. Not gonna happen.

People can read.

[The_jackalope]

40. +1

[Demsrule86]

38. What difference does it make to you? I read it and understood it perfectly. nt

[Glimmer of Hope]

66. I would rather not waste my time clicking on a post that is sourced by Mensch or Taylor.

The title is very misleading. Isn't it?

[tazkcmo]

19. WaPo has better evidence

And the FBI and Mueller have even better evidence.

[AncientGeezer]

20. Umm....no they didn't. Just saying... CNN has NOT said that.

Not on air, not on their website, not in a tweet...

[L. Coyote]

24. Read it for yourself.

Senior CNN Executive: "We have seen and have copies of transcripts of calls between Kushner, Bannon and high level Russian officials. At the least, those two committed treason, and it's hard to believe Trump wasn't part of it"

What do you think that says?

[onenote]

25. I think it says Claude Taylor has a vivid imagination and a bunch of suckers for followers

[L. Coyote]

27. So, you say it is a lie?

Just because?

[JHB]

39. It makes it hearsay, which is not necessarily a lie, but can't be taken...

...as an unalloyed fact either.

There was s a difference between someone saying something and someone claiming someone else said something. And treating the claim by the second party as a quote by the first party is misleading.

[L. Coyote]

51. So anytime a journalist reports a source, the news is just hearsay?

I think journalist should report quotes. Quoting is far better than just reporting the story. It adds a precise dimension.

[JHB]

64. Taylor is quoting a source (or alleged source). The OP subject line, however...

...is set up to imply it's a direct quote from CNN.

The point here is that there is a real difference between:

"CNN: We have transcripts..."

and

"Taylor: CNN exec says "we have transcripts..."

[SledDriver]

53. Fraude Taylor and LM?

Yes. It's. A. Lie.

[L. Coyote]

54. Trump is preparing his base not to believe whatever's coming.

Link to tweet

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

28. I think it says bullshit, because if a senior CNN executive had this info

and wanted to leak it, he'd do it through his own damn (huge and widely-watched) network, or at least to the New York Times or the Washington Post, and not some obscure gossip-mongering blogger.

[muriel_volestrangler]

41. People do read it, and then they correct you

You're begging to be corrected, with a thread title like that. I think it says you are overly trusting of Claude Taylor's accuracy, but you realise that, so you needed to keep Taylor out of the title by claiming "CNN" had said this, when it's an unverified claim by Taylor that an unnamed CNN 'executive' said this. Somewhere. Some time.

[demmiblue]

42. This. n/t

[pansypoo53219]

22. how do you put a line thru FAKE to insert illegitimate president?

[Foamfollower]

26. Yu need to change your false title because nothing could be further from the truth!

Claude Taylor and Louise Mensch are making these claims, NOT CNN, which means they are completely false and CNN has nothing of the sort.

[L. Coyote]

29. Unless, of course, it is true and you are the one who is wrong.

I believe Claude Taylor and the other journalists who are reporting this because i know who they are and what they have reported in the past. I have no clue who you are and you haven't ever reported anything of note as far as we know. Please inform us if you have reported some valuable scoops.

[Foamfollower]

43. Taylor and MEnsch aren't journalists, they are liars and have yet to be right about anything.

[L. Coyote]

50. Well, at least now we know who is right and who is wrong.

Thanks for making it so abundantly clear for everyone. Mueller as special prosecutor must just be fake news. Good to know there is no #TrumpRussia and that Trump has done nothing wrong, that Flynn is innocent, that no one in the Trump administration lied, etc. What a huge relief this is. I was getting worried that democracy was in peril.

And that you were wrong!

FBI has FISA warrant for Trump secret server connected to Russia.

jour·nal·ist
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noun
noun: journalist; plural noun: journalists

a person who writes for newspapers, magazines, or news websites or prepares news to be broadcast.
synonyms: reporter, correspondent, columnist, writer, commentator, reviewer;

Also, I was horribly confused and thought Twitter conveyed news. My bad.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

61. Your link is to a Mensch article claiming there was a FISA warrant

for a secret server. CNN says there wasn't: http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/09/politics/fbi-investigation-continues-into-odd-computer-link-between-russian-bank-and-trump-organization/index.html

Citing Mensch to support Taylor isn't going to get you very far. And to view Mensch and Taylor with reasonable skepticism because they rely on "sources" who are feeding them bullshit like FISA courts convening grand juries (they don't, and can't) and the Marshal of the Supreme Court notifying Trump -on the tarmac at Andrews AFB, no less - that impeachment proceedings have been commenced (she didn't, she couldn't, and there haven't been) doesn't for a minute suggest an assumption that "Mueller as special prosecutor must just be fake news" and "there is no #TrumpRussia and that Trump has done nothing wrong, that Flynn is innocent, that no one in the Trump administration lied, etc." Believe Taylor and Mensch or else you're a Trump-supporting dupe? That's just insulting.

[Foamfollower]

65. Again, Never right about ANYTHING

Including what you just claimed they were right about.

[AgadorSparticus]

30. Ok. No wonder he is going 10 times as hard on cnn... makes sense now

[LibraLiz1973]

32. You should change the title of your thread. Because CNN absolutely did NOT say that.

Claude Taylor is claiming CNN said it. But there's no evidence to back it up. He could be right. He could be wrong. and Louise's jumping on the train tweet reads like desperate BS from someone who wishes she were truly relevant

[LibraLiz1973]

33. Also. Not for nothing. You posting clickbait threads with BS titles

Is no different than when the freepers post that they heard from a high level source that Obama was a Muslim or that Hillary was going to prison.

Facts matter. Don't buy everything someone tries to sell you. I get you want to believe it but that doesn't mean you should present it as fact-- and argue it as such. Your OP title is misleading and you know it.

Claude could've been talking to a wall or a Russian bot just as easily as a CNN producer.

[SethH]

34. you got me!

congrats! I clicked this thread thinking CNN actually had these transcripts, it turns out it's just a lie, nice job!!

[Mike Nelson]

36. Claude does not work for...

...CNN... maybe he works for... the Republicans?

[L. Coyote]

57. Claude Taylor worked for President Bill Clinton.

In case you failed to notice, he is anti-Trump and Republicans. I recommend you read his Twitter feed once.

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You missed the train and are still standing still at the station if you don't know whose side journalists are on. Some are on the side of truth, Claude Taylor being a great example.

[Mike Nelson]

62. I don't follow Twitter much...

...so I just know him - and Louise - from here. Thank you for posting the Tweets. I hope the transcript is released soon.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

44. For God's sake, please edit the title.

Perhaps they do have tapes. Perhaps Taylor is 100% correct.

But CNN hasn't said shit yet, so let's not claim they have.

[Orrex]

45. I can't see the tweets. Is this more bullshit from Mensch?

Or is it an actual story corroborated by independent sources?

[jmg257]

47. More bullshit, different tweeter (C. Taylor with his numerous "sources")

[Orrex]

48. Ah. Thanks.

Mensch cites Taylor and Taylor cites Mensch, and between them they magically become credible or something.

[jmg257]

49. Yep seems There are some jerks in that circle!

[jmg257]

46. Sure they do! Most major news organizations have vital transcripts & tapes re: the biggest story

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in years, and don't release them in a BREAKING! report.

Damn media hiding the good stuff!!
Happens all the time!

[SledDriver]

52. NONE of these people are reliable sources...

They make this shit up. Please don't quote them on here...

[L. Coyote]

55. "these people" are the ones breaking the #TrumpRussia story. That is why they are attacked.

You read it first from "these people" and then you read it in the major media outlets weeks later. And then you heard it repeated in sworn testimony to Congress by the highest officials in the US government. But hey, people will attack the messengers because that is how truth is suppressed and foolish Republicans are led astray.

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[SledDriver]

58. These people are COMPLETELY FULL OF SHIT

THEY. ARE. COMPLETELY. FULL. OF. SHIT.

Fraude Taylor is a "photographer" who grifted 18k from vulnerable people to fix his car...

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LM is a conservative former MP and Murdoch shill who doxes people...

They are literally fake news... Please do not consider them reliable, believe anything they say, or post any of their BS on here.

¯_(ツ _/¯

[MineralMan]

56. When did Claude Taylor become a CNN Exec?

I had no idea. CNN didn't say anything. Claude Taylor said some shit.

Thread titles should accurately reflect the content of the thread, it seems to me. Claude Taylor is NOT a CNN exec. I doubt he knows any CNN execs.

[Iggo]

63. Okay, that's enough.

[SecularMotion]

67. Please self-delete this thread

For the time being, we have confidence that the community is capable of informing people when they have posted fake news, and that most DUers would self-delete when made aware of it. - Skinner

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1259&pid=12855

[demmiblue]

68. I think that you may be violating HIPPA with this post. Careful, someone may report you. n/t

[tritsofme]

69. Mensch and Taylor are the equivalent of Alex Jones. You people are embarrassing yourselves.

[VOX]

70. Misleading as all hell. Please edit the title line!