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Atman

(31,464 posts)
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 07:43 AM Jul 2017

Trump's speech to Poland is a total joke.

He sounds like a fourth grader reading a chapter in his school history book for the first time. He is literally just reciting the history of Poland. I'm sure his people thought that it would make it sound as if he had some actually knowledge of world history, but occasionally he reads something that surprises him and ad libs something stupid. Like when he told the Polish people that once Germany and Russia both attacked them at the same time. "Oh, that was a tough one. Very bad." What a complete moron.

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Trump's speech to Poland is a total joke. (Original Post) Atman Jul 2017 OP
Hitler and Stalin were two very bad hombres BeyondGeography Jul 2017 #1
OMG - tell me he didn't actually say that. Vinca Jul 2017 #5
Not watching either BeyondGeography Jul 2017 #7
I had to change the channel. Sophiegirl Jul 2017 #2
Same here. iluvtennis Jul 2017 #45
Indeed. kentuck Jul 2017 #3
Yes, he's sticking to the teleprompter .. Hieronymus Jul 2017 #6
I believe that Stephen Miller wrote the speech. n/t demmiblue Jul 2017 #10
Neidermeyer! maddiemom Jul 2017 #16
"Is that a pledge pin on your chest sir!" smirkymonkey Jul 2017 #34
It's hard to write a speech CanonRay Jul 2017 #44
Consistency. tazkcmo Jul 2017 #4
Thanks for letting us know. I cannot watch that demented cretin! MoonRiver Jul 2017 #8
I am watching in a perpetual state of cringe. spiderpig Jul 2017 #9
Someone in the bused-in crowd is waving a Confederate flag Atman Jul 2017 #11
This group was rounded up from Poland's alt-right, Trumps kind of people. nikibatts Jul 2017 #15
Come on. Really? underpants Jul 2017 #27
Not kidding. Atman Jul 2017 #32
the confederate flag is a disease that is spreading outside the u.s.: unblock Jul 2017 #38
The Internet, no doubt. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2017 #52
Wow, waving a confederate flag...I'm speechless. #resistance iluvtennis Jul 2017 #46
Pic: demmiblue Jul 2017 #56
They didnt MFM008 Jul 2017 #57
His speechwriters are idiots, too. n/t Brainstormy Jul 2017 #12
He's rambling and even the paid flacks sound bored. spiderpig Jul 2017 #13
Poland is incredible. Incredible. So incredible. Buns_of_Fire Jul 2017 #14
OMG! SammyWinstonJack Jul 2017 #22
My grandparents were born in Poland. riverbendviewgal Jul 2017 #42
Not listening, so I don't know if you are... 3catwoman3 Jul 2017 #49
He just got a standing ovation from the crowd.. whathehell Jul 2017 #17
There is a very rigjt wing faction in Poland, as here. pangaia Jul 2017 #37
Yes, I just read that people were bussed in.. whathehell Jul 2017 #40
Trump has visibly deteriorated both mentally and physically ... Puzzler Jul 2017 #18
1/3 of the population shares the same mental deterioration. SammyWinstonJack Jul 2017 #24
What a performance Timmygoat Jul 2017 #19
Well, haven't my people been through enough? Get the hell out of there Dipshit. Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2017 #20
Yeah, and according to dft, ALL Polish Americans voted for him! Ilsa Jul 2017 #23
This Polish American didn't vote for the asshat. CentralMass Jul 2017 #28
I figured there were at least two! LOL Ilsa Jul 2017 #31
I wish whoever had written it had included Mme Curie, Copernicus, and Lech Walesa. WinkyDink Jul 2017 #21
I wonder what they thought of his recent gratuitous insults of famous Polish American Tanuki Jul 2017 #30
Ha! Good one! WinkyDink Jul 2017 #47
And Chopin. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2017 #53
Did he tell any polish jokes? nt Lucky Luciano Jul 2017 #25
Almost spit take underpants Jul 2017 #26
To his credit, he didn't forget Poland underpants Jul 2017 #29
The August 28, 1989, edition of "Time" magazine marked the 50-year anniversary of the invasion. John1956PA Jul 2017 #33
What an embarrassment! smirkymonkey Jul 2017 #35
I think the cheering crowds that were brought in by bus were told it's a Justin Bieber concert Miles Archer Jul 2017 #36
I got 306 electoral votes! Look at me, I managed to beat Hillary Clinton in the primaries. Initech Jul 2017 #39
What is worse angrychair Jul 2017 #41
Spot On blue-wave Jul 2017 #50
I love how wherever 45 goes... forgotmylogin Jul 2017 #43
He does not know what he is reading oberliner Jul 2017 #48
Trump himself is a total joke. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2017 #51
In his speech about NK, you can see him reading with his tiny fingers. Atman Jul 2017 #55
I'm wondering if part of his reading problem (other than that he's an ignorant ass) The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2017 #58
The mouth breathing pussy grabber in charge only knows history since twitter was invented workinclasszero Jul 2017 #54

kentuck

(111,051 posts)
3. Indeed.
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 07:46 AM
Jul 2017

He knows very little history. He has learned to read the teleprompter a little better.....that's about it.

spiderpig

(10,419 posts)
9. I am watching in a perpetual state of cringe.
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 07:51 AM
Jul 2017

That bused-in crowd chant of "Donald Trump!" is about to send me over the edge, though.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
11. Someone in the bused-in crowd is waving a Confederate flag
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 07:59 AM
Jul 2017

I guess the Polish people have a deep sympathy for the down trodden former slaves states of America. WTF?

 

nikibatts

(2,198 posts)
15. This group was rounded up from Poland's alt-right, Trumps kind of people.
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 08:08 AM
Jul 2017

Still, they didn't very impressed to me. The media is spinning it as more than it actually was from what i saw.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,148 posts)
14. Poland is incredible. Incredible. So incredible.
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 08:04 AM
Jul 2017

And the Polish people are incredible. Just incredible. Thank you. This is a beautiful piece of land. So beautiful. Thank you. We will stand behind NATO, but they gotta pay up. Thank you. Poland is incredible. Thank you. And the nazis came from the west, and Russia came from the east, and you were just incredible. Thank you. This is a beautiful city. So beautiful. Thank you.

At least he didn't say "I am a polish sausage."

3catwoman3

(23,943 posts)
49. Not listening, so I don't know if you are...
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 10:22 AM
Jul 2017

...actually quoting him, or just parodying what he could have said.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
37. There is a very rigjt wing faction in Poland, as here.
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 09:37 AM
Jul 2017

THAT is who you see-- brought in to make him feel good.

It's all lies.

Puzzler

(2,505 posts)
18. Trump has visibly deteriorated both mentally and physically ...
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 08:14 AM
Jul 2017

... since July 2016, IMO.

And he was appalling back then. But now, he really seems utterly lost. I dunno, but at this rate, his mental deterioration will be so obvious that...

... hold on, it'll never be fucking obvious to about 1/3 of the population will it? Gah!

-Puzzler

Timmygoat

(779 posts)
19. What a performance
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 08:26 AM
Jul 2017

I wonder if the affluent Trump family housed any Polish refugees in WW2, I was born in England and I remember
many of the Polish refugees living in our area, I would make a guess that the Trumps would shut them out.

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
23. Yeah, and according to dft, ALL Polish Americans voted for him!
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 08:55 AM
Jul 2017

They gave him so much support! Did you know know you supported him, Laura? It's incredible, just incredible!

I'd write more, but I can't seem to dumb down my thoughts to his second grade level for consistency.

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
31. I figured there were at least two! LOL
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 09:10 AM
Jul 2017

Donald will be disappointed, and would probably have your registration challenged if he could.

Tanuki

(14,914 posts)
30. I wonder what they thought of his recent gratuitous insults of famous Polish American
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 09:09 AM
Jul 2017

Mika Brzezinski?

underpants

(182,585 posts)
26. Almost spit take
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 09:06 AM
Jul 2017


Growing up telling Polish jokes this has just been sitting there since I heard about this trip.

John1956PA

(2,654 posts)
33. The August 28, 1989, edition of "Time" magazine marked the 50-year anniversary of the invasion.
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 09:27 AM
Jul 2017

The photographs of some of the destruction and carnage have stuck with me since the edition's circulation.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
35. What an embarrassment!
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 09:31 AM
Jul 2017

He continues to make an ass out of himself on the world stage. Can somebody please reign him in? He's an absolute disaster.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
36. I think the cheering crowds that were brought in by bus were told it's a Justin Bieber concert
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 09:34 AM
Jul 2017

I watched a few seconds of it. They are in a state of orgasmic bliss. I hope Trump brought five small fish and five small loaves of bread so he can divide them and feed everyone there...I'll bet they're hungry after all of that cheering.

Initech

(100,029 posts)
39. I got 306 electoral votes! Look at me, I managed to beat Hillary Clinton in the primaries.
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 09:38 AM
Jul 2017

And no one is as smart and as great as I am! In fact I'm better than everyone in Poland. Together, we will MAGA!

angrychair

(8,677 posts)
41. What is worse
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 09:47 AM
Jul 2017

Is the current Polish government is a totalitarian regime that has most notably taken wholesale control of their national press services and national court system. The current commentary coming from that government regarding how they feel about the US is unsettling to say the least. They committed to getting him to stop there by busing in crowds to cheer for him and playing to his vanity.

That is just scratching the surface and for trump to make his first stop in Europe is very disconcerting and no president, democrat or republican, would have ever committed to stopping there much less making it a first stop.
We are in dangerous territory, trump is increasingly more friendly to harsh and totalitarian regimes and it reflects on how he acts and his words. The way he talks about the press and the courts, you can be sure he is looking at Poland as an example, wondering how they did it.

blue-wave

(4,343 posts)
50. Spot On
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 11:03 AM
Jul 2017

It's very perplexing that the racist alt right is looking to Eastern Europe for their hope. They consider someone like Putin a hero and savior for the white race. In their view, they look to Eastern Europe because it was not spoiled and destroyed by western decadence. Yeah, Putin the totalitarian, a hero? But the racist alt right love that kind of tyranny.

I have a theory about Trump's visit to Poland and with Putin. Poland and Russia are historical adversaries. I believe Trump is there to somehow unite them in alt right lock step. Across the former Iron Curtain countries, right wing governments and ideologies have been taking hold. The very thought is horrifying.

The perplexing part is the racist alt right, with their ideology embracing race theory, consider Eastern Europeans Untermenschen (inferior people). For Poland, Russia and the other Eastern European countries to embrace this ideology is mind boggling. These are the countries that fought the Nazis and this ideology in WWII suffering horrific loss. They are playing with fire and will likely get burned very badly.

forgotmylogin

(7,519 posts)
43. I love how wherever 45 goes...
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 09:53 AM
Jul 2017

He seems to feel it necessary to explain the people's own history to them.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
48. He does not know what he is reading
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 10:03 AM
Jul 2017

He has never seen it before.

And yet, people in the media seem to get all excited about Teleprompter Trump and forget that it isn't really him.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
55. In his speech about NK, you can see him reading with his tiny fingers.
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 12:04 PM
Jul 2017

Just the way a child is trained to read. No TelePrompTer, he's reading off the podium...sloooowly...and you can see his hand scanning the page as he tries to figure out what he is reading. Pathetic.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,576 posts)
58. I'm wondering if part of his reading problem (other than that he's an ignorant ass)
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 12:16 PM
Jul 2017

could be that he can't see and is too vain to wear reading glasses. At 50 or thereabouts almost everybody has trouble with their close vision; SCROTUS is 71 and as far as I know he's never been observed wearing glasses. But he has been observed apparently having trouble reading. His extreme vanity compels him to dye and sculpt his hair to hide the gray and the bald spot; he uses some sort of fake-tan product that turns his face orange, presumably to look "healthy" (if you call orange a healthy color) and to hide the wrinkles, spots and blemishes you get as you age. I'm thinking his reading problem could have to do with the fact that he won't wear glasses.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
54. The mouth breathing pussy grabber in charge only knows history since twitter was invented
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 11:16 AM
Jul 2017

and can only speak and write in 140 bursts of idiocy at a time.

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