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Fuck Glenn Greenwald. For real fuck him. (Original Post) boston bean Jul 2017 OP
Do you have details boston? I wouldn't put anything past that snake still_one Jul 2017 #1
Well turns out the document she received had the same markings and crease as the boston bean Jul 2017 #5
Who the hell is Reality Winter? n/t janx Jul 2017 #11
The girl arrested for providing a classified doc to greenwald. boston bean Jul 2017 #12
Reality Winner (you can't make this up)... CincyDem Jul 2017 #13
Has to be played by Amanda Peet in the movie :) grantcart Jul 2017 #15
Thanks so much, Cincy. Winner, Winter, what the hell. janx Jul 2017 #16
Working for the Russians Iliyah Jul 2017 #2
Did she say it was Greenwald? elleng Jul 2017 #3
I did not hear Rachel say Greenwald sent the false document. In fact, I heard Rachel say (at the end skylucy Jul 2017 #8
Exactly. Thanks. elleng Jul 2017 #10
Yes. No indication that it was Greenwald unless OP has secret info. /nt philly_bob Jul 2017 #37
No, but per the meta data they have it was forged after Reality Winner's arrest herding cats Jul 2017 #17
She didn't say that. Hieronymus Jul 2017 #25
Did that come out on her show? Any links? I certainly wouldn't put it past him and The Intercept. nt stevenleser Jul 2017 #4
She left it open but it was obvious by timeline and markings on her fake doc. boston bean Jul 2017 #6
Damn we just posted the same thought or phrase BootinUp Jul 2017 #9
It was implied but not openly stated. herding cats Jul 2017 #18
Wouldn't put it past him, but I think BootinUp Jul 2017 #7
I thought he was one of our conquering heroes, or something. Kinda like Assange? pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #14
You got a mouse in your pocket? nt LexVegas Jul 2017 #19
If you are referring to typing out the wrong word, my apologies. pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #20
I'm sorry Greenwald is one of your heroes. nt LexVegas Jul 2017 #24
"Seeing what they are really made of?" SaschaHM Jul 2017 #31
He lost me about 4 years ago rpannier Jul 2017 #34
Thank-you. You are correct, of course. Eom pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #36
Greenwald is a Trump/Putin supporter Gothmog Jul 2017 #29
A lot of strong Democrats were attacked because we saw the con of Greenwald and Assange. pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #35
Greenwald and Assange hate the Democratic Party and love Russia and Putin Gothmog Jul 2017 #41
Not surprised a ruble that Greenwald could be trying to take Rachel down flamingdem Jul 2017 #21
Who does he work for? mountain grammy Jul 2017 #22
Don't think it was greenwald. Sounds like someone trying to muddy the waters SweetieD Jul 2017 #23
That document went from Reality Winner to Intercept WhiteTara Jul 2017 #27
actually we have no idea who else she may have sent the original document to dsc Jul 2017 #39
Important to raise CNN here. This could be a coordinated attack. chimpymustgo Jul 2017 #43
I believe that it is coordinated WhiteTara Jul 2017 #44
Who else had access to the NSA report used to generate this forgery? Gothmog Jul 2017 #28
Thought it was reported that when greenwald got the document he SweetieD Jul 2017 #33
Greenwald is a Trump/Putin supporter Gothmog Jul 2017 #26
Nah, he's just looking to make a buck BootinUp Jul 2017 #38
I have zero respect for Greenwald Gothmog Jul 2017 #40
This isn't my idea watoos Jul 2017 #30
I don't know that Greenwald did it JustAnotherGen Jul 2017 #32
He's not my type, so no, thanks. MineralMan Jul 2017 #42

boston bean

(36,220 posts)
5. Well turns out the document she received had the same markings and crease as the
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 09:23 PM
Jul 2017

Document greenwald printed that he got from Reality Winter.

Thing is Rachel got the fake doc with those markings before Greenwald printed it.

So someome with access to it used it to doctor up a fake document that was sent to Rachel.


boston bean

(36,220 posts)
12. The girl arrested for providing a classified doc to greenwald.
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 09:30 PM
Jul 2017

They were able to determine it when greenwald sent the nsa doc for confirmation.

CincyDem

(6,347 posts)
13. Reality Winner (you can't make this up)...
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 09:32 PM
Jul 2017


...a young NSA contractor working down in Georgia that was arrested for allegedly leaking a classified NSA document to The Intercept.

In the long song of history - having someone with the name Reality Winner involved in the Trump takedown...you just can't make that up.

janx

(24,128 posts)
16. Thanks so much, Cincy. Winner, Winter, what the hell.
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 09:41 PM
Jul 2017

And I love your phrase of the long song of history. Yes, this is one for the books. It sounds like the name of a race horse.

skylucy

(3,738 posts)
8. I did not hear Rachel say Greenwald sent the false document. In fact, I heard Rachel say (at the end
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 09:26 PM
Jul 2017

of her report) that they did NOT know who did it...but they "are working on" finding out.

herding cats

(19,558 posts)
17. No, but per the meta data they have it was forged after Reality Winner's arrest
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 09:58 PM
Jul 2017

And before the Intercept published their article the following Monday. Forged from the same document the Intercept used.

It would be deeply irresponsible for TRMS to directly point to The Intercept. Instead she laid out what they have, what they believe to be true, and what may possibly be true as far as they can tell at this point in time.

She then left it up to us to connect the dots without any legal implications on them.

herding cats

(19,558 posts)
18. It was implied but not openly stated.
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 10:14 PM
Jul 2017

I have a post a few above which points out her technique decently. She drew the map and left us to find our way from point A to point B.

 

pirateshipdude

(967 posts)
14. I thought he was one of our conquering heroes, or something. Kinda like Assange?
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 09:34 PM
Jul 2017

Last edited Thu Jul 6, 2017, 10:44 PM - Edit history (1)

Seeing what they are really made of?

 

pirateshipdude

(967 posts)
20. If you are referring to typing out the wrong word, my apologies.
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 10:46 PM
Jul 2017

I absolutely hate making that type error. But, it happens.

If you are not referring to that, then I have no idea what you are talking about.

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
31. "Seeing what they are really made of?"
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 11:30 PM
Jul 2017

I don't think Greenwald is one of his/her heroes. He was, however, a personal fave of many here during and before the primary. "Seeing what they are really made of?" seems more like "I told you all that this guy was shit"

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
34. He lost me about 4 years ago
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 11:37 PM
Jul 2017

While the Intercept does post some good things, it's mostly a tabloid style rag that has the same Putin fixation that Trump has

 

pirateshipdude

(967 posts)
35. A lot of strong Democrats were attacked because we saw the con of Greenwald and Assange.
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 11:37 PM
Jul 2017

It pisses me off to no end that so many allowed him to sucker so many, contaminating our party even more. A lot of forces cloak in all kinds of manner to disrupt the strength of the Democratic Party.

flamingdem

(39,312 posts)
21. Not surprised a ruble that Greenwald could be trying to take Rachel down
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 10:47 PM
Jul 2017

His overlord would be so very happy, da!

SweetieD

(1,660 posts)
23. Don't think it was greenwald. Sounds like someone trying to muddy the waters
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 11:01 PM
Jul 2017

Putting out a dupe document, hoping MSNBC reports on it, so they can call it fake, so when greenwalds article comes out no one believes it.

WhiteTara

(29,699 posts)
27. That document went from Reality Winner to Intercept
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 11:23 PM
Jul 2017

and she was jailed, so that leaves the Intercept. I wouldn't put that one past them at all. Glad Rachel is too smart for them. Now I understand what happened to CNN as well. I hope they all get swept up in the net cast by Mueller.

dsc

(52,155 posts)
39. actually we have no idea who else she may have sent the original document to
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 11:55 PM
Jul 2017

as far as I know she hasn't spoken publicly about this.

chimpymustgo

(12,774 posts)
43. Important to raise CNN here. This could be a coordinated attack.
Fri Jul 7, 2017, 09:42 AM
Jul 2017

The press must be smarter and more vigilant than ever.

Gothmog

(145,079 posts)
28. Who else had access to the NSA report used to generate this forgery?
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 11:24 PM
Jul 2017

The leaker was in jail and she gave her only copy to the Intercept.

SweetieD

(1,660 posts)
33. Thought it was reported that when greenwald got the document he
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 11:35 PM
Jul 2017

called in some favors from some people he knew in fbi to see if it was real. After some discussion they determined it was real and ntercept went with the story. It was in those interactions that nsa was tipped off that a leak occurred.

Greenwald had the document for at least a month before he published the story. So a lot of people who were in the know could have seen it during that time.

Gothmog

(145,079 posts)
26. Greenwald is a Trump/Putin supporter
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 11:22 PM
Jul 2017

I also believe that the only person who could have forged the letter sent to Rachel was greenwald. Greenwald is Putin supporter and is pond scum

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
30. This isn't my idea
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 11:29 PM
Jul 2017

but I saw it posted as a possibility;
Original document shipped to Greewald who shows it to Wikileaks who show it to Russian IC who generate a forgery to discredit Rachel as fake news. Just a thought.

JustAnotherGen

(31,798 posts)
32. I don't know that Greenwald did it
Thu Jul 6, 2017, 11:32 PM
Jul 2017

But The Intercept is certainly amateur hour - isn't it? Let's say - what if The Intercept got played to float the balloon?

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