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johnnie

(23,616 posts)
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 10:10 AM Jul 2012

Official: DNA ties '04 NYC death to Occupy protest (WTF is this article about?)

NEW YORK (AP) — A DNA match has created a puzzling new turn in a prominent unsolved killing, linking crime-scene evidence from a drama student's 2004 death to a chain collected after a protest that claimed affiliation with Occupy Wall Street this spring, a law enforcement official said Tuesday.

A database of DNA samples recently matched DNA on the chain to material on a compact disc player found near Sarah Fox's body, the official said, speaking on condition of anonymity because the official wasn't authorized to discuss the ongoing investigation.

<snip> The chain was used to hold open an emergency exit gate during a protest this March 28 at a Brooklyn subway station. Aiming to draw attention to transit issues by giving passengers free rides, the demonstrators opened exits at various subway stations. A statement described many of the participants as members of the Occupy Wall Street movement.

More - http://news.yahoo.com/official-dna-ties-04-nyc-death-occupy-protest-031036311.html


Did this reporter just want to tie the Occupy movement to a murder? This has to be one of the shittiest written report I've read in a long time. Unless I'm missing something.

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Official: DNA ties '04 NYC death to Occupy protest (WTF is this article about?) (Original Post) johnnie Jul 2012 OP
No, I think you've read it correctly. aquart Jul 2012 #1
For that matter Drale Jul 2012 #18
I have given up on Yahoo for news. Their editorial standards (if you can call them coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #2
It was an AP report n/t johnnie Jul 2012 #4
AP is just about as bad, imo. I think it got taken over by coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #7
It is shittily written, but I am not getting out of it what you are... MADem Jul 2012 #3
I think the guy they questioned was in 2004 johnnie Jul 2012 #5
Yes--that loony-looking but fit fellow in the tape is the suspect. MADem Jul 2012 #28
they have video up here maddezmom Jul 2012 #16
The article with that video says that they aren't going after the protesters. MADem Jul 2012 #25
Have lived long enough to have questions, turtlerescue1 Jul 2012 #6
They have DNA from the murder scene from eight years ago. MADem Jul 2012 #29
BUT why leak anything??? turtlerescue1 Jul 2012 #32
To frighten the suspect. To let them KNOW they've got his DNA, even if they don't, really. MADem Jul 2012 #34
Worst. Murdoch. Propaganda. Ever. The 1% knows that Occupy is going to win. Zorra Jul 2012 #8
Since Occupy is leaderless and has no criteria for membership, anyone who says they are, is. FarCenter Jul 2012 #9
Ok I get it johnnie Jul 2012 #11
OWS did 9/11 too! ...oh no, that was the PNAC boys, nevermind. -eom Huey P. Long Jul 2012 #10
Why would you use the acronym WTF? randome Jul 2012 #12
Because the article makes little sense. johnnie Jul 2012 #17
I think the article makes sense but the headline, I admit, is over the top. randome Jul 2012 #20
Really? Zorra Jul 2012 #22
No--"There's no immediate evidence that the DNA belongs to the protesters MADem Jul 2012 #30
Really? No. What they wanted, and what they've done, is to make people afraid Zorra Jul 2012 #37
That quote is not my words--it's from the article. But you are wrong--there already HAS been a MADem Jul 2012 #38
I was wrong? WTF? Are you kidding me? Zorra Jul 2012 #43
You were wrong in that there WAS followup to this lousy story--that's all I meant. MADem Jul 2012 #46
Aw, gosh, looks like you were mistaken. Zorra Jul 2012 #42
If nothing else it is a poorly written headline. Poor as a FOX................ wandy Jul 2012 #13
Holy Crap, OWS has a Time Machine!!! Ikonoklast Jul 2012 #21
The NYPD is behind this WilliamPitt Jul 2012 #14
Didn't think about that (NYPD) johnnie Jul 2012 #19
Look at the front page of the New York Daily News WilliamPitt Jul 2012 #24
nailed it frylock Jul 2012 #26
See upthread--it was a fuckup. Lab tech working on Occupy case transferred DNA to Fox case. MADem Jul 2012 #39
Chris Hedges warned us: One Day We’ll All Be Terrorists Junkdrawer Jul 2012 #15
Transparent effort by NYPD and whoever is working with them to discredit the Occupy movement brentspeak Jul 2012 #23
Def Jim Warren Jul 2012 #27
No, just a lab fuckup--it is being widely reported, right now... MADem Jul 2012 #40
It was cross contamination. The same NYPD rep handled evidence at both scenes. smokey nj Jul 2012 #31
Yes--it looks like a false match due to police error contaminating evidence pinboy3niner Jul 2012 #35
The "member of the NYPD" was apparently one of their lab techs, if the reports are to be believed.NT MADem Jul 2012 #41
Didn't see this coming johnnie Jul 2012 #36
oogabooga fascisthunter Jul 2012 #33
Exactly. Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt. Fire Walk With Me Jul 2012 #44
This demonizing article is about their fear of Occupy. Fire Walk With Me Jul 2012 #45

aquart

(69,014 posts)
1. No, I think you've read it correctly.
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 10:18 AM
Jul 2012

The chain wasn't jewelry. Anyone using the subway system could have touched it...talk about contaminated evidence! WHY were they testing that chain for DNA? What was the crime scene?

Nothing on that much touched chain could hold up in any court case although I'm curious as to what that case might be. Trespass? We test for DNA for trespass?

We have piles of untested rape kits but we're testing subway barriers? EXCUSE ME?

Drale

(7,932 posts)
18. For that matter
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 10:52 AM
Jul 2012

it could have been the Cop or Transit Authority worker who took the chain off the gate. No one knows.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
2. I have given up on Yahoo for news. Their editorial standards (if you can call them
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 10:20 AM
Jul 2012

that) are so low that they simply cannot be relied upon for anything other than entertainment value.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
7. AP is just about as bad, imo. I think it got taken over by
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 10:30 AM
Jul 2012

some right-wing crazies. IIRC, Helen Thomas eviscerated AP over this.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
3. It is shittily written, but I am not getting out of it what you are...
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 10:21 AM
Jul 2012

I am reading between the lines, and it sounds to me like someone from Occupy is fingering this guy, not that the police are trying to "accuse" Occupy. Maybe someone from Occupy knew that this guy had drooled or bled all over the chain, or something?


Police questioned a resident of the neighborhood near the park, Dimitry Sheinman, and he surprised them by saying he had "visions" about Fox that could help the investigation. Former Manhattan District Attorney Robert Morgenthau pronounced Sheinman the "No. 1 suspect," but Sheinman was never charged. He has denied any wrongdoing. No contact information for him could immediately be found.
The chain was used to hold open an emergency exit gate during a protest this March 28 at a Brooklyn subway station. Aiming to draw attention to transit issues by giving passengers free rides, the demonstrators opened exits at various subway stations. A statement described many of the participants as members of the Occupy Wall Street movement.
An Occupy representative didn't immediately respond to an email message late Tuesday.
It wasn't immediately clear who might have provided or touched the chain.


http://news.yahoo.com/official-dna-ties-04-nyc-death-occupy-protest-031036311.html

The police may not want to rat out the person who fingered this guy..?

Since "Occupy" is leaderless, a statement from someone purporting to be a representative is pretty meaningless.

johnnie

(23,616 posts)
5. I think the guy they questioned was in 2004
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 10:29 AM
Jul 2012

Then again it could be more recently. Actually my reason for posting this is because of how poorly the article is written. It is strange that they put the Occupy movement into the story without really having a good reason to.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
28. Yes--that loony-looking but fit fellow in the tape is the suspect.
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 08:51 PM
Jul 2012

I completely agree the article sounds like it was badly translated from Latvian--very hard to follow.

I am wondering, though, if this article is deliberate goading or baiting; that the police are suggesting that someone from OWS ratted out the guy, that the group that got the chain from the suspect had reason to suspect him--maybe he babbled after a night of partying, or something, and they are trying to shake a tree here. I am not getting a sense they are accusing anyone from OWS, just someone who is known to some people within OWS who may or may not be talking to police.

Not sure why I have that sense--it's probably as much what has not been said as what has been said.

Time (and a more coherent report!) will tell, though!!!

MADem

(135,425 posts)
25. The article with that video says that they aren't going after the protesters.
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 12:54 PM
Jul 2012
There's no immediate evidence that the DNA belongs to the protesters who chained open the gates.


It could be that one of those protesters got a squirrelly feeling about the person who gave them the chain, and mentioned it to the police...?

turtlerescue1

(1,013 posts)
6. Have lived long enough to have questions,
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 10:30 AM
Jul 2012

especially since of the "anonymity" of the "official" -ya gotta wonder the motive.

It is more frightening that there would be DNA testing to begin with. Put that with the UC Davis "incident"- "Welcome to the Monkey House".

MADem

(135,425 posts)
29. They have DNA from the murder scene from eight years ago.
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 08:54 PM
Jul 2012

It could be the police are watching the suspect, and saw him drool or bleed all over the chain before he handed it over to the OWS people. Or maybe after...?

I don't think they are running around DNA testing random objects--there is a chunk of this story missing, for whatever reason.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
34. To frighten the suspect. To let them KNOW they've got his DNA, even if they don't, really.
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 09:10 PM
Jul 2012

Last edited Wed Jul 11, 2012, 10:17 PM - Edit history (1)

To freak the guy into running...!


EDIT--in any event, it doesn't matter--the double DNA comes from the lab tech who worked on both cases. It was poor procedure on the part of the lab worker, who is in trouble, most likely, right about now.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
8. Worst. Murdoch. Propaganda. Ever. The 1% knows that Occupy is going to win.
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 10:37 AM
Jul 2012

They will do anything and everything in their power, including stupid stories like this, to make Occupy look bad in the eyes of the public.

The 1% is killing the planet.

We're going to stop them, no matter how many lies, and how much bullshit anti-Occupy propaganda they print

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
9. Since Occupy is leaderless and has no criteria for membership, anyone who says they are, is.
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 10:39 AM
Jul 2012

This was a crime scene related to theft of services from the MTA.

The next logical step is to review surveillance video, interview people at the scene, etc.

It's a pretty significant break in the murder case.

johnnie

(23,616 posts)
11. Ok I get it
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 10:42 AM
Jul 2012

I was wondering why they tested the chain. Like I said, I posted this more to show a poorly written article seeming to just get the word out the Occupy is tied to a murder.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
12. Why would you use the acronym WTF?
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 10:44 AM
Jul 2012

You think all murder investigations are invalid now? Did you read the article? It has to do with someone the police previously questioned. If their main suspect had touched that chain, it only makes sense to test it.

What I found particularly curious is the mention of an 'Occupy representative'. I didn't know such a thing existed.

johnnie

(23,616 posts)
17. Because the article makes little sense.
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 10:49 AM
Jul 2012

It just seemed to me that someone wrote a quick piece with little facts just to tie Occupy to a murder. So I said "what the fuck".

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
22. Really?
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 11:07 AM
Jul 2012


Really? They claim they found some DNA on a chain link in NYC, and they are obviously trying to arbitrarily connect it with OWS in order to make OWS look bad in the eyes of the public.

That makes sense to you?

Really?

MADem

(135,425 posts)
30. No--"There's no immediate evidence that the DNA belongs to the protesters
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 08:58 PM
Jul 2012
who chained open the gates"--this sounds more like a "tethered goat" baiting to me. I think they know who gave those kids the chain, and they want to sweat him.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
37. Really? No. What they wanted, and what they've done, is to make people afraid
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 09:35 PM
Jul 2012

of Occupy.

That front page of Rupert Murdoch's NY Post...are you kidding me?

The damage is already done; Occupy has been maliciously smeared and libeled by 1% RW owned MSM. That's the beauty in owning all the media. You can totally make shit up and then get people to read and think things that are total bullshit, and never have to fess up that you totally lied in order to deceive them. There are no laws against lying or planting false news stories.

There will be no followup to this phony story. Many gullible, ignorant people have now effectively been scared and made afraid, there's no reason for anything further, until they make up some other total bullshit to smear Occupy with.


MADem

(135,425 posts)
38. That quote is not my words--it's from the article. But you are wrong--there already HAS been a
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 10:08 PM
Jul 2012

follow-up to the story--it was a lab tech fuckup. The source is still anonymous, but I think a spokesman will come out and make this official in the next day or so.

NEW YORK POST: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/dna_found_lab_sarah_fox_ows_scene_AXAcfM2L6Ld1TuZS4cfVzJ

DNA link between Sarah Fox murder & OWS scenes could be mistake: sources

NY DAILY NEWS: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/dna-found-sarah-fox-evidence-ows-chain-belong-sloppy-city-worker-sources-article-1.1112436

'Link' between DNA from Occupy Wall Street protest & Sarah Fox murder was actually product of a lab mess-up: sources
The NYPD lab employee who processed evidence from both cases will likely face departmental charges for not taking precautions to prevent tainting, sources said.




WALL STREET JOURNAL: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303740704577521394281541760.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

Officials were investigating whether a potential match between DNA found at the murder scene of a Juilliard student and on a chain used in an Occupy Wall Street stunt was actually a mistake by a lab worker.

The connection initially looked like an unlikely break in the unsolved 2004 killing of 21-year-old Sarah Fox. However, as police looked more closely at the link Tuesday, a law-enforcement official said questions began arising about the credibility of the match.


WASHINGTON POST: http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/official-dna-match-in-unsolved-ny-killing-came-from-lab-worker-who-also-worked-on-occupy-case/2012/07/11/gJQAv6Q7dW_story.html


Official: DNA match in unsolved NY killing came from lab worker who also worked on Occupy case..... But during the process of excluding people who may have handled evidence, it was determined the DNA came from a lab worker who dealt with both cases, said the official, who spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because the investigation was ongoing. It was not clear if the mistake was the result of contaminated evidence.


Much more from other sources is coming across the wire right now...

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
43. I was wrong? WTF? Are you kidding me?
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 03:27 AM
Jul 2012

I called bullshit on that story before I even finished the headline.

Media Pounces on False DNA Link to OWS Protests, Student's Murder

]So here's what you posted in this thread:

"I am reading between the lines, and it sounds to me like someone from Occupy is fingering this guy, not that the police are trying to "accuse" Occupy. Maybe someone from Occupy knew that this guy had drooled or bled all over the chain, or something?

The police may not want to rat out the person who fingered this guy..?

Since "Occupy" is leaderless, a statement from someone purporting to be a representative is pretty meaningless."

Really? All. People. Must. Have. Leader.
-----
"Yes--that loony-looking but fit fellow in the tape is the suspect.

I completely agree the article sounds like it was badly translated from Latvian--very hard to follow.

I am wondering, though, if this article is deliberate goading or baiting; that the police are suggesting that someone from OWS ratted out the guy, that the group that got the chain from the suspect had reason to suspect him--maybe he babbled after a night of partying, or something, and they are trying to shake a tree here. I am not getting a sense they are accusing anyone from OWS, just someone who is known to some people within OWS who may or may not be talking to police.
-----
Not sure why I have that sense--it's probably as much what has not been said as what has been said."
-----
"It could be the police are watching the suspect, and saw him drool or bleed all over the chain before he handed it over to the OWS people. Or maybe after...?

I don't think they are running around DNA testing random objects--there is a chunk of this story missing, for whatever reason."

"-this sounds more like a "tethered goat" baiting to me. I think they know who gave those kids the chain, and they want to sweat him."


Here's what I posted in this thread:

Worst. Murdoch. Propaganda. Ever. The 1% knows that Occupy is going to win.

They will do anything and everything in their power, including stupid stories like this, to make Occupy look bad in the eyes of the public.

The 1% is killing the planet.

We're going to stop them, no matter how many lies, and how much bullshit anti-Occupy propaganda they print.
----
Really? They claim they found some DNA on a chain link in NYC, and they are obviously trying to arbitrarily connect it with OWS in order to make OWS look bad in the eyes of the public.

That makes sense to you?

Really?
----
Really? No. What they wanted, and what they've done, is to make people afraid of Occupy.

That front page of Rupert Murdoch's NY Post...are you kidding me?

The damage is already done; Occupy has been maliciously smeared and libeled by 1% RW owned MSM. That's the beauty in owning all the media. You can totally make shit up and then get people to read and think things that are total bullshit, and never have to fess up that you totally lied in order to deceive them. There are no laws against lying or planting false news stories.

There will be no followup to this phony story. Many gullible, ignorant people have now effectively been scared and made afraid, there's no reason for anything further, until they make up some other total bullshit to smear Occupy with.
-----
What I meant by the last paragraph was that the damage was done. There would be no need to investigate or arrest any Occupier because the story was a bullshit plant. Saying whoops, we goofed is not a followup story. It's just a bullshit explanation for a piece of phony propaganda.

So, like, I was wrong?

People should never try to cover their ass to save face, unless they have some very unusual anatomical anomalies.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
46. You were wrong in that there WAS followup to this lousy story--that's all I meant.
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 04:30 AM
Jul 2012

You said: There will be no followup to this phony story.

The police came out and said there was no connection between OWS and the CD player--that the "connection" was their own incompetent lab tech.

Obviously, they were testing the chain to see if they could find out who was the person/persons who chained open the door and disrupted the transportation system. They were not looking for a murderer when they tested that chain, they were looking for someone who caused chaos in the subway.

They ran the DNA and found that it matched a hit on the CD player--and someone felt a need to let the media know, either for money or what-have-you, that there was a connection.

Unfortunately for them and their reputations, it was learned during exclusionary testing that the "match" belonged to someone in the lab.

Now, the story is not focused in the slightest on OWS or even on the people who chained that door open, it is focused on the police lab, a bumbling lab tech, a possibility that cases have been compromised, and the fact that the place is apparently run very sloppily. No one is "afraid" of Occupy, no Occupier needs to be arrested for murder (though if they had found anything on that chain, they might have tried to get someone for disrupting public transportation), they're now afraid of slobs in the police lab drooling all over the evidence and making a conviction impossible owing to their slovenliness.

wandy

(3,539 posts)
13. If nothing else it is a poorly written headline. Poor as a FOX................
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 10:45 AM
Jul 2012

The headline is misleading. As is ofter done on right wings blogs or FOX the headline will give you a 'desired' impression.
Do you doubt that their are Teapublicans so uninformed that they do not believe or could be lead to believe that Occupy was around in 2004.
I'm not saying it was the intent, however I don't doubt that a number of teabbagers came away with......

See I told you they were no good. Those dirty OWS hippies were causing trouble all the way back to 2004.

On the other hand, it could be the lazy ass editor should be seeking employment in a different endeavor.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
21. Holy Crap, OWS has a Time Machine!!!
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 10:56 AM
Jul 2012

Mittens is gonna get his ass kicked if he tries to cut that kid's hair this time!

 

WilliamPitt

(58,179 posts)
14. The NYPD is behind this
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 10:46 AM
Jul 2012

The NY Post and NY Daily News both have similar reports.

Ironically, the Post has the only honest paragraph in this whole mess:

"Matching the DNA on the chain to a suspect won’t be easy, sources said, because the genetic sample could be from an OWS activist or anyone who passed through the gates for a free ride."

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/ows_link_to_gal_slay_2O6i1NY2Htt2kArXSv2jOI

...but that didn't stop the NY Times from running their fucked-up headline: "DNA Said to Link Occupy Wall St. Protest and 2004 Killing"

I smell the NYPD all over this, especially after they smeared that activist couple last week:

http://www.thenation.com/blog/168729/nypd-brands-occupy-wall-street-couple-professional-agitators

johnnie

(23,616 posts)
19. Didn't think about that (NYPD)
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 10:53 AM
Jul 2012

I don't know much about the back story on the murder it just struck me funny how poorly the story was written, like someone just wanted to say Occupy = murder.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
39. See upthread--it was a fuckup. Lab tech working on Occupy case transferred DNA to Fox case.
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 10:10 PM
Jul 2012

The lab tech is in trouble for shitty procedure.

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
15. Chris Hedges warned us: One Day We’ll All Be Terrorists
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 10:46 AM
Jul 2012
Syed Fahad Hashmi can tell you about the dark heart of America. He knows that our First Amendment rights have become a joke, that habeas corpus no longer exists and that we torture, not only in black sites such as those at Bagram Air Base in Afghanistan or at Guantánamo Bay, but also at the federal Metropolitan Correctional Center (MCC) in Lower Manhattan. Hashmi is a U.S. citizen of Muslim descent imprisoned on two counts of providing and conspiring to provide material support and two counts of making and conspiring to make a contribution of goods or services to al-Qaida. As his case prepares for trial, his plight illustrates that the gravest threat we face is not from Islamic extremists, but the codification of draconian procedures that deny Americans basic civil liberties and due process. Hashmi would be a better person to tell you this, but he is not allowed to speak.

This corruption of our legal system, if history is any guide, will not be reserved by the state for suspected terrorists, or even Muslim Americans. In the coming turmoil and economic collapse, it will be used to silence all who are branded as disruptive or subversive. Hashmi endures what many others, who are not Muslim, will endure later. Radical activists in the environmental, globalization, anti-nuclear, sustainable agriculture and anarchist movements—who are already being placed by the state in special detention facilities with Muslims charged with terrorism—have discovered that his fate is their fate. Courageous groups have organized protests, including vigils outside the Manhattan detention facility. They can be found at www.educatorsforcivilliberties.org or www.freefahad.com. On Martin Luther King Day, this Jan. 18 at 6 p.m. EST, protesters will hold a large vigil in front of the MCC on 150 Park Row in Lower Manhattan to call for a return of our constitutional rights. Join them if you can.

....

There will be more Hashmis, and the Justice Department, planning for future detentions, set up in 2006 a segregated facility, the Communication Management Unit, at the federal prison in Terre Haute, Ind. Nearly all the inmates transferred to Terre Haute are Muslims. A second facility has been set up at Marion, Ill., where the inmates again are mostly Muslim but also include a sprinkling of animal rights and environmental activists, among them Daniel McGowan, who was charged with two arsons at logging operations in Oregon. His sentence was given “terrorism enhancements” under the Patriot Act. Amnesty International has called the Marion prison facility “inhumane.” All calls and mail—although communication customarily is off-limits to prison officials—are monitored in these two Communication Management Units. Communication among prisoners is required to be only in English. The highest-level terrorists are housed at the Penitentiary Administrative Maximum Facility, known as Supermax, in Florence, Colo., where prisoners have almost no human interaction, physical exercise or mental stimulation, replicating the conditions for most of those held at Guantánamo. If detainees are transferred from Guantánamo to the prison in Thomson, Ill., they will find little change. They will endure Guantánamo-like conditions in colder weather.

Our descent is the familiar disease of decaying empires. The tyranny we impose on others we finally impose on ourselves. The influx of non-Muslim American activists into these facilities is another ominous development. It presages the continued dismantling of the rule of law, the widening of a system where prisoners are psychologically broken by sensory deprivation, extreme isolation and secretive kangaroo courts where suspects are sentenced on rumors and innuendo and denied the right to view the evidence against them. Dissent is no longer the duty of the engaged citizen but is becoming an act of terrorism.


http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/one_day_well_all_be_terrorists_20091228/

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
35. Yes--it looks like a false match due to police error contaminating evidence
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 09:17 PM
Jul 2012
A DNA match between material on a slain jogger's CD player in 2004 and on a chain used by Occupy Wall Street to hold open a subway entrance last year now appears very likely the result of the same person having handled both pieces of evidence, not a link between the two events, law enforcement officials told ABC News.

It appeared both DNA samples may have been tainted at a police lab before they were tested by the medical examiner's office, sources told ABC News' New York station, WABC. The material found on both the CD player and the chain may have come from a member of the NYPD who handled both items, sources said.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/dna-links-occupy-wall-street-protest-slain-julliard/story?id=16753258#.T_4gyI6hC5Q

MADem

(135,425 posts)
41. The "member of the NYPD" was apparently one of their lab techs, if the reports are to be believed.NT
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 10:18 PM
Jul 2012
 

Fire Walk With Me

(38,893 posts)
45. This demonizing article is about their fear of Occupy.
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 03:47 AM
Jul 2012

Terrorissss! Murdururzzzz!

To quote the shampoo commercial, "That means it's working". Occupy, that is

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