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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJust stumbled across an Obama meme many of us knew and loved in what seems like 100 years ago
pirateshipdude
(967 posts)Marie Marie
(9,999 posts)Quanta
(195 posts)nt
montana_hazeleyes
(3,424 posts)And he has BIG hands.
Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)and we are all well and truly fucked.
Skittles
(153,147 posts)Last edited Sat Jul 8, 2017, 02:56 AM - Edit history (1)
no he did not
Samantha
(9,314 posts)Read this, my friend:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jun/23/obama-cia-warning-russia-election-hack-report
Sam
Skittles
(153,147 posts)it sure did the trick!
Tatiana
(14,167 posts)That is one huge dropped ball that is literally killing our nation and the planet.
Skittles
(153,147 posts)he fucked up ROYALLY and we now have TRUMP and a CONSERVATIVE SUPREME COURT
that was indeed one HUGE DROPPED BALL
so I agree: no, he should not have been CHILL because he did NOT have it
madville
(7,408 posts)There was no plan if she didn't
Skittles
(153,147 posts)Obama should have fought fire with fire
he stayed polite
ugh
Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)I agree with the premise that Trump was not expected to win.
And the more we learn, the more we know that he wouldn't have, without his pal Putin pulling the strings.
Hindsight is 20/20, as the saying goes.
We go nuts when someone like Mitch McConnell tries to ram through back door deals n TrumpCare, when he giggles over his mission being Obama as a one term President. We go nuts when Paul Ryan practices granny starving.
And I am not for a second suggesting that we sink to that level.
But if we keep doing what we do, the Republicans will keep doing what they do.
The term "We are better than that" has a debatable level of value.
We need to decide how we are going to be "better than" Republicans while sending them home to their districts in search of new employment. They fight dirty. Taking the "high road" with someone who fights dirty doesn't always guarantee victory. It sometimes means that you are on the high road, and you've been thoroughly boned.
I don't have the answers. Wish I did. I am sure Obama wishes now that he had brought the hammer down when he had the opportunity.
Skittles
(153,147 posts)he went easy on Trump going out
fuck that shit
Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)It's Sean Connery's line in "The Untouchables"..."What are you prepared to do?"
Because Trump has his minions working very hard, right now, on voter suppression. And unless the 35% of his "base" faces personal harm from his policies...like TrumpCare...they're going to be right there for him in 2020. Hell, even if they DO feel the pinch, we already know he's going to blame it on Obama, so the base may hold.
With no idea who the Democratic candidate is going to be in 2020, it's impossible to know how the war will be waged.
But it will be a war, make no mistake about it.
Tatiana
(14,167 posts)What I really feel cannot be said in polite company.
He let us down. That really burns. He should have cared less about what people would think about him and more about the dangerous consequences of the Russians succeeding.
People (including myself) were angry at Hillary when she first came out with her book that was critical of some of Obama's foreign policy approaches, but she has been proven to be correct. We needed a more forceful, confident approach.
Skittles
(153,147 posts)I like Obama, I thought he was a decent man who really cared. But was he the best president ever, as so many DUers seem to feel? Hell no. Not even close.