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Romney: Electing our first black President has made life "worse in every way" for African Americans (Original Post) Amerigo Vespucci Jul 2012 OP
It took about a minute malaise Jul 2012 #1
LOL! Good luck with that, Mitt. tanyev Jul 2012 #2
He knows he won't win the African American vote Cali_Democrat Jul 2012 #3
Many conservatives seem to genuinely believe this RZM Jul 2012 #6
Life must be sweet in the bubble. randome Jul 2012 #15
You get that kind of thing from every poltiical perspective RZM Jul 2012 #25
Don't kid yourself Cali_Democrat Jul 2012 #31
Did he really say that? Laurian Jul 2012 #4
That's a somewhat compressed version of it, but yes, he did Amerigo Vespucci Jul 2012 #14
Sounds like his objective today is to lock down the tea party vote. Laurian Jul 2012 #22
All the flight path of an anvil. sarge43 Jul 2012 #5
He's getting booed for saying he would end Obamacare qanda Jul 2012 #7
That is the line of the day malaise Jul 2012 #8
Crap! Stewart and Colbert are on vacation this week. tanyev Jul 2012 #11
Mittwit's gonna go over like a smoked ham at a Passover Seder hifiguy Jul 2012 #9
I'm loving the weak applause and spartan61 Jul 2012 #10
My initial reaction was "I think I hear 20 people clapping." Amerigo Vespucci Jul 2012 #17
Yup it's brought out the bitter country club racists hell bent on revenge and.. Ganja Ninja Jul 2012 #12
He fucking sucks. HughBeaumont Jul 2012 #13
He got the nod because everyone else in the clown car was worse. Amerigo Vespucci Jul 2012 #19
Palin wasn't vetted. Romney wasn't vetted. randome Jul 2012 #20
Try to imagine Newt laying out his toilet scrubbing brain fart to that crowd. Ganja Ninja Jul 2012 #29
Bob Dylan once wrote "The times - they are a changing." Mitt Romney had never heard that song. Initech Jul 2012 #16
I have yet to figure out WTF Romney thinks he's going to do to RKP5637 Jul 2012 #18
He's got a plan!!!! Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2012 #26
OMG, it will be sickening, but I will take a quick look. When I read/listen to RKP5637 Jul 2012 #30
Have a hypno-therapist standing by to pull you back from the brink! randome Jul 2012 #33
I'm getting panicky already and all I've done so far is dwnld the PDF file. This is the RKP5637 Jul 2012 #38
The greatest thing this nation has to fear is republicans! n/t RKP5637 Jul 2012 #21
I agree with Mittens Drale Jul 2012 #23
Maybe next he'll put on blackface and sing Al Jolson songs. marmar Jul 2012 #24
"mammy,, mammy.. you guys don't like that? who uh, let the dogs out...? " dionysus Jul 2012 #27
If he paid someone to write that for him get the red out Jul 2012 #28
Well, I wouldn't say "every way," but he is correct in one regard MurrayDelph Jul 2012 #32
Yep. And, the results of that make him correct in most ways. GoCubsGo Jul 2012 #40
Oh no, he *really* didn't say that, did he? no_hypocrisy Jul 2012 #34
He did...see my comment above: Amerigo Vespucci Jul 2012 #35
Wonder if he would have said the exact same thing if no_hypocrisy Jul 2012 #36
The "day after" spin on the speech seems to be... Amerigo Vespucci Jul 2012 #39
He truly does not know how to tailor a speech to an audience LonePirate Jul 2012 #37
 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
3. He knows he won't win the African American vote
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 10:53 AM
Jul 2012

So now he's insulting and taunting the African American community to try and appeal to a certain segment of whites.

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
6. Many conservatives seem to genuinely believe this
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 10:56 AM
Jul 2012

They aren't conservatives for their health. They genuinely believe that conservative policies are better for the country, minorities included. That's especially true for elites like Romney, who lack the ground-level view of the effects of conservative policies.

Believe it or not, many people really do believe what they say.

I don't think the Mittster really believes that he can get more black votes, but I'd be surprised if he didn't genuinely believe that conservatism is better for the black community. Just because it's wrong doesn't mean he doesn't really think that.

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
25. You get that kind of thing from every poltiical perspective
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 11:13 AM
Jul 2012

Most people think their way is best, or they wouldn't believe it in the first place. It's easy to overlook reality when you're convinced you're right.

Mitt isn't actually the best case for this, since he has a record of changing his positions. But when it comes to economics, he probably does really believe what he says. And why wouldn't he? His way has certainly worked for him.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
31. Don't kid yourself
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 11:21 AM
Jul 2012

The elite conservatives KNOW their policies are not better for the African American community. They KNOW their own goals which is to benefit the 1 percent and turn everyone else into minimum wage slaves in the name of profit.

The other people who are conservatives watch Faux News and listen to Rush Limbaugh so they have certain talking points shoved down their throat in order to get them to vote against their best interests.

So....you have the elite conservatives who know what they're doing and you have the brainwashed boobs who listen to Rush Limbaugh and watch Faux News.

Amerigo Vespucci

(30,885 posts)
14. That's a somewhat compressed version of it, but yes, he did
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 11:00 AM
Jul 2012

He started off with this warm and fuzzy thing about how, years ago, many of us "never would have expected" to see an African American in the White House, then segued into a screed about how life has only gotten worse for African Americans since.

spartan61

(2,091 posts)
10. I'm loving the weak applause and
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 10:58 AM
Jul 2012

just now the boos when we brought up ACA. He is so out of his element. He's only used to talking with Fox and his 1%.

Ganja Ninja

(15,953 posts)
12. Yup it's brought out the bitter country club racists hell bent on revenge and..
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 10:59 AM
Jul 2012

looking to make everyone pay for putting a black man in the oval office. Then again that's not Obama's fault.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
13. He fucking sucks.
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 10:59 AM
Jul 2012

GOD he fucking sucks. Was this guy even vetted at all?

Let's go even further; does a moderate even stand a chance in the modern red-meat-gulping GOP?

Amerigo Vespucci

(30,885 posts)
19. He got the nod because everyone else in the clown car was worse.
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 11:05 AM
Jul 2012

Like Boehner said, it's unlikely that anyone is going to "fall in love" with Romney.

Ganja Ninja

(15,953 posts)
29. Try to imagine Newt laying out his toilet scrubbing brain fart to that crowd.
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 11:17 AM
Jul 2012

Then think about governor giggle pus crowing about his execution record.

And the rest were worse.

RKP5637

(67,104 posts)
18. I have yet to figure out WTF Romney thinks he's going to do to
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 11:04 AM
Jul 2012

magically transform the economy into this great job machine. He mouths a lot of words, but I've heard no credible action plan from Romney.

Now, granted, I don't listen to him much, but I would have thought I would have at least have heard word bites by now on some plan by the talking heads. And, I thought Boner was supposed to have fixed everything by now with his bagger house. Yep, that sure worked well.

If Romney were to get in, with a herd of teabagger majorities across congress, IMO Americans are getting what they deserve for some being so damn ignorant. The problem is, it will take all of us down. A republican majority would be fully capable of taking most Americans back to the Great Depression, while others sit behind gated communities watching deaths and despair roll across the nation feeling great about themselves. Then we could be truly a 3rd world nation. I guess then the R's will claim victory for having destroyed the US.

RKP5637

(67,104 posts)
30. OMG, it will be sickening, but I will take a quick look. When I read/listen to
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 11:20 AM
Jul 2012

republican lies and crap, I feel my IQ goes way down it's so mind numbing. And already I feel just thinking about reading it ...

PS: Thanks for the link!!!


RKP5637

(67,104 posts)
38. I'm getting panicky already and all I've done so far is dwnld the PDF file. This is the
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 12:03 PM
Jul 2012

stuff reoccurring nightmares are made of, I think!

Drale

(7,932 posts)
23. I agree with Mittens
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 11:10 AM
Jul 2012

but its not the Presidents fault, its 100% the Repukes fault. They have blocked or threatened to block every single bill that would help anyone who is not rich, including African Americans, Latin Americans and anyone else who doesn't have a billion dollars in their wallet right now.

MurrayDelph

(5,293 posts)
32. Well, I wouldn't say "every way," but he is correct in one regard
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 11:34 AM
Jul 2012

Having an African American president has allowed the racism of the Republicans to come out of the closet.

GoCubsGo

(32,079 posts)
40. Yep. And, the results of that make him correct in most ways.
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 08:15 AM
Jul 2012

The President's election brought out enough of these crazies in the 2010 election that we are now stuck with some of the worst, most destructive Congresmen/women, Senators, governors, and other state officials in this country's history. I'm not blaming the President for this, although his own party is party responsible for it through their cowardice, and through the apathy of its voters.

no_hypocrisy

(46,080 posts)
36. Wonder if he would have said the exact same thing if
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 11:51 AM
Jul 2012

Jesse Jackson and/or Rev. Al were in the audience . . . . .

Amerigo Vespucci

(30,885 posts)
39. The "day after" spin on the speech seems to be...
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 08:01 AM
Jul 2012

...that Romney gave the same speech to the NAACP that he's given to every other audience.

There are pros and cons to that approach.

On one hand, I don;t believe that anyone should "pander"...change their basic message to "win points"...no matter where they're speaking.

On the other hand, I feel that it is the responsibility of any speaker to take the basic needs and interests of their audience into consideration, and to address them in one form or another in their speech. It doesn't mean they have to compromise their principles. It's just a show of common courtesy: "You invited me here, I appreciate it, I know these areas are of concern / interest to you, and I'd like to address them."

I agree with what many are saying, that Romney may have literally "spoken to" attendees at an NAACP meeting, but he was really "talking to" the cameras, his donors, and the "base" of the Republican party. He was demonstrating his ability to stay on subject, and the NAACP were simply a means to an end.

I've spoken on a number of occasions at local Kiwanis, Rotary, and Lions Clubs. I always make a point of using the second option I described above. I choose a subject I believe would be interesting and informative and always do whatever I can to "personalize" it for my audience.

LonePirate

(13,417 posts)
37. He truly does not know how to tailor a speech to an audience
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 12:03 PM
Jul 2012

If he were a decent human being, his words would have been an apology for the rampant racism in his party. Of course since he's a Republican, he's not a decent human being.

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