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What Is Trump's End Game Here?..... (Original Post) global1 Jul 2017 OP
Yes and yes: Become an oligarch in New Russia, FKA the United States. WinkyDink Jul 2017 #1
Dunno endgame, but he has been planning golfguru Jul 2017 #5
I read NY papers; I'm relatively familiar with Trump, at least as far as his AC forays and WinkyDink Jul 2017 #15
LOL probably you are right golfguru Jul 2017 #21
Debt can allow for luxuries, as Americans know too well. And when the Russians are WinkyDink Jul 2017 #33
To win n/t leftstreet Jul 2017 #2
He is a puppet. He has no end game. Evergreen Emerald Jul 2017 #3
And some sat home because they did not like HRC, meanwhile giving the country to the GOP! RKP5637 Jul 2017 #7
Exactly--in part due to the loss of the "fourth branch of government" Evergreen Emerald Jul 2017 #12
Agree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t RKP5637 Jul 2017 #14
Somewhere, someplace I read ... RKP5637 Jul 2017 #4
Months ago, I remember seeing a picture GallopingGhost Jul 2017 #10
And, they are really cut from the same piece of cloth in some ways! n/t RKP5637 Jul 2017 #13
I posted about it here back in December: highplainsdem Jul 2017 #22
Yes, that is it!!! Thank you!!! RKP5637 Jul 2017 #23
Russia federation of the United States of America kimbutgar Jul 2017 #6
Sadly, I think the US will regionalize as more people move into red or blue zones. And this RKP5637 Jul 2017 #9
Trump has already accomplished his end game, The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2017 #8
"The most interesting person" Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2017 #31
Exactly... Docreed2003 Jul 2017 #32
It's the Koch brothers and other shadowy billionaires with the sinister end game. Crunchy Frog Jul 2017 #11
Try Russian oligarchs. WinkyDink Jul 2017 #18
To the extent that their interests coincide with those of the Kochs et al. n/t Crunchy Frog Jul 2017 #20
Both...he want to enrich himself and is a Russian 'asset' clearly. Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #16
"End game" implies a plan rock Jul 2017 #17
He wasn't always mentally unstable. WinkyDink Jul 2017 #19
And that helps, how? rock Jul 2017 #26
I'm going to get those (bomb) doors open if it harelips everybody on Rock Creek! longship Jul 2017 #24
he doesn't a thought past his next well-done steak. KG Jul 2017 #25
1) personal debt reduction. 2) remember the 19.5% of Rasnoff...it went to someone CincyDem Jul 2017 #27
he wants to destroy the world. He sees himself as the Anti-Christ. trueblue2007 Jul 2017 #28
King of Americastan C_U_L8R Jul 2017 #29
There's no "end game" in Monopoly. nt FigTree Jul 2017 #30
Revenge on everybody who laughed at him at that correspondence dinner lame54 Jul 2017 #34
 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
1. Yes and yes: Become an oligarch in New Russia, FKA the United States.
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 11:36 AM
Jul 2017

Remember: Trump gave his daughter a Russian name. He prefers Eastern European women (Ivana, Melania).

He feels an affinity for Russia and its former satellites far more than he does the nations of NATO, which he considers moochers and weaklings led by either unattractive older women or men married to unattractive older women.

Now you know why Trump placed Ivanka in his seat: in his mind, he was "showing up" the rest of them with a "beautiful" and young Trump female.

#pathetic #superficial #insane

 

golfguru

(4,987 posts)
5. Dunno endgame, but he has been planning
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 11:40 AM
Jul 2017

a run for president for 20 years. So, to understand his intentions, one has to examine his behavior for last 20+ years.

I do not think it is strictly making more money. Heck, if he is really worth $10 Billion, next 100 generations of Trumps each stand to inherit $100 million.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
15. I read NY papers; I'm relatively familiar with Trump, at least as far as his AC forays and
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 11:53 AM
Jul 2017

the judicial corruption of "Eminent Domain" to accommodate his plans. And Le Scandale Marla, of course.

IMO, Trump has been likethis with the Russian Mob for decades, and his collusion is bearing fruit for both him and Russia now.

Oh, and he's not worth anything. Trump is in massive debt to Russian bankers. Ask Donny Jr. about their "investments." His hotels and former casinos have/had, shall we say, yuuuge laundry rooms.

 

golfguru

(4,987 posts)
21. LOL probably you are right
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 12:39 PM
Jul 2017

but then the Salesman (that is all Trump is) is living a pretty rich life for not worth anything. A private Boeing jet, a big helicopter, living in most affluent neighborhood in Manhattan in a penthouse, 3 trophy wives, Mar-a-Lago, and luxury golf resorts all over. I call that pretty good living for worth nothing.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
33. Debt can allow for luxuries, as Americans know too well. And when the Russians are
Mon Jul 10, 2017, 09:08 AM
Jul 2017

the creditors in exchange for the ULTIMATE PRIZE of the US Presidency and much of Congress, well, letting Donny Two-Scoops jet around is a tiny, tiny quid pro that quo.

I'll call my book "Smoke, Mirrors, and Treason: Reflection in a Russian Eye."



Evergreen Emerald

(13,069 posts)
3. He is a puppet. He has no end game.
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 11:40 AM
Jul 2017

He is fulfilling his role. The question is: what is Putin's endgame?

And, what is worse is that the Republicans know it and do not care. Because their endgame was completed: they took over the democracy while we sat on our couches watching Dancing with the Stars. They pretend to be doing the work of the people while taking our treasure and destroying our social network.

RKP5637

(67,030 posts)
7. And some sat home because they did not like HRC, meanwhile giving the country to the GOP!
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 11:42 AM
Jul 2017

FFS, that, was hard to take. And now we will have SCOTUS likely seated with more RW'ers as some retire, etc.

Evergreen Emerald

(13,069 posts)
12. Exactly--in part due to the loss of the "fourth branch of government"
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 11:49 AM
Jul 2017

The press did not do their jobs. Rather, they are part of the coop. We saw how they tore down HRC and built up Trump (and the statistics proved that).

And of course, the power of the elected officials is used inappropriately, to maintain power, rather than do the work we elected them to do--ie Benghazi hearings and the lack of action on Russian interference with our elections.

RKP5637

(67,030 posts)
4. Somewhere, someplace I read ...
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 11:40 AM
Jul 2017

Somewhere, someplace I read ... that he had once said imagine the power of the US and Russia combined, and I swear, as I recall, he said something like they could rule the world.

I think much of it is another thing to take and control, and along with it make some money. That said, I still think he was shocked when he won, like WTF just happened. It's hard to tell with him because he says one thing and then reverses it a little later, meanwhile mixed in with lies, distortions and flamboyance.

GallopingGhost

(2,404 posts)
10. Months ago, I remember seeing a picture
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 11:47 AM
Jul 2017

of a Trump/Putin billboard (I think it was in Russia) that said something like Make the World Great Again. It as verified as true. It was chilling.

kimbutgar

(20,871 posts)
6. Russia federation of the United States of America
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 11:41 AM
Jul 2017

With chump as his puppet leader. He is owned by The Russia mafia because of the massive debts he owes them.

Rip America 2017. With the GOP, Kochs, Mercer $ and the christofascists the US as we know it is over. The only thing we got are those blues zones in the country that now realize they are better off on their own against the federal government. I.e. governor Brown of California at the g20 talking about creating opportunities in clean energy with foreign countries away from the now DOA federal government.

RKP5637

(67,030 posts)
9. Sadly, I think the US will regionalize as more people move into red or blue zones. And this
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 11:45 AM
Jul 2017

will fracture the democracy, Putin's dream.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,267 posts)
8. Trump has already accomplished his end game,
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 11:44 AM
Jul 2017

which was to satisfy his ego by becoming The Leader of the Free World (a position that now actually seems to be occupied by Angela Merkel) so everybody will kiss his ass and put his picture on magazine covers. The corresponding goal is, of course, enrichment - or the prevention of the loss of any existing wealth. Had he not become president he could have kept making money on the QT by helping the Russians launder it through various dodgy banks and real estate transactions; but now that he is president he is in the awkward position of having to keep Russia happy and fend off various investigations.

What he's doing is sinister enough, but I doubt he has any political or ideological goals. Hitler, for example, had a vision (a terrible one, to be sure) of Germany as the representative of a Master Race that would dominate the world. While Trump sort of talks like that (as in his Poland speech), he has no long-term vision, sinister or otherwise; he just wants to be the richest, most important and most adored person in the world.

Docreed2003

(16,817 posts)
32. Exactly...
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 05:53 PM
Jul 2017

And I'd argue that he had no clue of the implications of his speech in Poland, he just read the thing that some other nefarious fuck wrote!

Crunchy Frog

(26,548 posts)
11. It's the Koch brothers and other shadowy billionaires with the sinister end game.
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 11:48 AM
Jul 2017

Trump is just a tool.

longship

(40,416 posts)
24. I'm going to get those (bomb) doors open if it harelips everybody on Rock Creek!
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 12:59 PM
Jul 2017


It's inevitable, don't you think?




CincyDem

(6,281 posts)
27. 1) personal debt reduction. 2) remember the 19.5% of Rasnoff...it went to someone
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 01:30 PM
Jul 2017

and that someone probably has the initials DJT.

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