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malaise

(268,698 posts)
Mon Jul 10, 2017, 05:24 AM Jul 2017

So Nikki Haley said that Russia not only interfered with the US elections

but is causing similar chaos in other countries. That is true.
The problem for the rest of us is that we have proof that America and other Western powers have been doing the same across the globe for eons. They have all admitted same.

As I have written several times, you can't claim democracy at home while you destroy democracy in other countries for your perceived 'national interest'.

We all know Russia has no interest in democracy but until America addresses her foreign policy madness, it's hard to see how democracy wins. Additionally it is clear that ReTHUGs are fine with destroying democracy for self interest.

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JI7

(89,240 posts)
1. many countries did many fucked up things before. that's not an excuse for what happens now
Mon Jul 10, 2017, 05:28 AM
Jul 2017

it reminds me of republicans trying to justify hatred against muslims by bringing up stupid shit about muhammed. and all the other crap they throw out.

malaise

(268,698 posts)
4. Except that we're dealing with now - not the past
Mon Jul 10, 2017, 05:39 AM
Jul 2017

No country has the right to decide who should lead another country...that is undemocratic.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
2. Giving up is not an option
Mon Jul 10, 2017, 05:34 AM
Jul 2017

People in other countries are fighting back. I get your point, but we cannot just say 'we deserve this', especially when we have 10,000 nukes.

malaise

(268,698 posts)
3. I am not one of those saying you deserve this
Mon Jul 10, 2017, 05:37 AM
Jul 2017

I am asking for more introspection from those who claim to love democracy. Either you believe in something or you don't - it can't be that you believe in democracy at home but want your tools running other countries.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
5. Unfortunately Americans, at least their leaders, don't do introspection well
Mon Jul 10, 2017, 05:40 AM
Jul 2017

In my opinion, anyway

gordianot

(15,233 posts)
6. Maybe Trump will give some roasted Documents of the old American Democracy to his sons.
Mon Jul 10, 2017, 06:10 AM
Jul 2017

They would make a fine addition to their other trophies.

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