Did the Clinton Campaign Really Collude With Ukraine?

[DonViejo]

I think this is an important analysis for all of us. Please follow the link to read it! Don

Did the Clinton Campaign Really Collude With Ukraine?

JULY 11 2017 6:23 PM

By Osita Nwanevu

Following the revelation of emails confirming the New York Times’ Monday story about Donald Trump Jr. being told about Russian efforts to aid the Trump campaign, conservatives, Trump backers, and Trump Jr. himself resurfaced the findings of a January Politico story about Ukranian efforts to aid Hillary Clinton, arguing that Clinton allies had been just as willing to work with a foreign power as Trump Jr. seemed to be.

full article
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/07/11/did_the_clinton_campaign_collude_with_ukraine.html

[Sanity Claws]

1. Oh Lord

The spinning has begun. Rachel Maddow predicted that the spin would take this form.

[MFM008]

2. They will try to

Dilute their own mess with this.
HRC is not president however.
Her family not involved.

[Maeve]

3. Let's cut to the chase--last paragraph

"It’s important to remember that what’s ultimately concerning about Russiagate is the possibility that the Trump campaign—including staffers now employed in the White House by the president—worked with a hostile government whose leaders attempted to influence and disrupt the election with cyberattacks. The Chalupa story is about officials in an embassy passing along opposition research to a Democratic operative and reporters. The two episodes are not close to being the same, but that fact obviously won’t stop Trump’s supporters from deploying the story for yet another round of Clinton whataboutism."

[DURHAM D]

4. Skip to the last paragraph. nt

[annabanana]

5. Before you push this.. Go watch last night's Rachel.

She nailed the upcoming muddy water, and the form it might probably take.

[Mr. Ected]

6. No matter how badly they muddy the waters for the Trump fanbois

Bob Mueller will be investigating the true crimes.

There is no such thing as a #fakeverdict

[Turbineguy]

7. And John McCain was involved

with the Russo-Georgian War of August 2008, when he was running for President. I believe the GOP intended to capitalize off of it but the Georgians did not prevail and it was quietly dropped.

[mercuryblues]

8. my answer to that will be

whether true or not will be.

But she didn't play with them. She turned it over to the FBI when it arrived and that is how they got the Steele dossier.

[still_one]

9. Not unlike Politico, or Kenneth Volgel, one of the authors of the Politico ariticle, to conviently

paint this with how "both sides do it", which perhaps reflects on his defensiveness when the media is criticised for their double standard of coverage:

Link to tweet

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Perhaps what is most revealing how some in the press want this still to be about Hillary, trying to setup a distraction either intentionally or unintentionally on the smoking gun right in the middle of the trump administration