There is just no mechanism to stop this I guess?

[SHRED]

No speedy one.

New territory for this country?
We have to watch while Russia takes over.

[Eliot Rosewater]

1. Yep. The rub will be when middle class white republican homeowners

have to turn their land over to the oligarchs.

Might be allowed to live in the structure for a fee, but land ownership is not something Putin will tolerate for the citizenry.

Dictators may say you own something, but you dont. You never do. They will take what they want when they want.

We will learn the hard way, that is if we survive at all.

For the real hard heads, yes technically some people in Russia who are not oligarchs own land, but the piece of paper that says they own the land is enforced by PUTIN, or not enforced by PUTIN.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND republicans?

[Petrushka]

8. As if eminent domain doesn't already condemn & "take" property for pipelines . . .

. . . from Republican as well as Democrat landowners! For instance, in Texas --->

https://stateimpact.npr.org/texas/tag/eminent-domain/

How many years has Russia been running that show? Or are entities closer to home responsible?

(** tsk **)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2016/06/07/the-growing-battle-over-the-use-of-eminent-domain-to-take-property-for-pipelines/?utm_term=.6e70aad4fe5e

[Eliot Rosewater]

9. Hope you are not comparing this to what Putin will do.

[Petrushka]

11. No comparison involved.

"...what Putin will do." is speculation . . . and I'm much too old to speculate about the future while a past and present-day fact is involved--namely, the "taking" of landowners' property for the benefit of private businesses.


P.S.
Reply delayed because I haven't been online for a couple days.

[DinahMoeHum]

2. There is one, but it's not fit for public discussion. . .

. . .let it go at that. . .

[Orrex]

4. No, that won't work

He *likes* it when people piss on him.



Or were you thinking of something else?

[DinahMoeHum]

10. I was thinking of something more permanent. . .

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. . .and remember, nobody is that lucky forever.

[CrispyQ]

3. One side has played by the rules for 35+ years & ignored the fact that the other side does not. -nt

[femmocrat]

5. There are several, that I know of:

1. Impeachment
2. 25th amendment.

Both are extremely unlikely under a republican congress, so we need:

3. Take back the House or Senate or both in 2018. We need to start working toward that goal NOW.

4. He could always resign, but "people are saying" that he won't. That would be the speediest, but then we would have Pence. Or he could become incapacitated for health reasons, but again... Pence becomes president.

"We are screwn."

[Voltaire2]

6. The certification of the election was the time.

I respect Obama, but his cautious approach to everything is both his strength and his greatest liability. The IC knew what was going on. The executive branch needed to act as a matter of national security to make this public before the election was confirmed.

[still_one]

7. 2018

[ecstatic]

12. The forefathers never thought of this scenario.

Very flimsy requirements to run for office. An electoral college that has morphed into a farce. No mention of or criteria for a do-over election. Anything goes! He gets to keep signing shit during a criminal investigation. Signing shit that is making things worse, not better.

[Demsrule86]

13. I think Congress will act.

I think we will stop Trump and his traitor foreign policyl

[dalton99a]

14. Every House seat will be on the ballot next year

Democrats must retake the House

[kentuck]

15. Democrats need the House and Senate.

They should be working toward that end. Otherwise, there are no necessary restraints on the tyrant now in office.

[uncle ray]

16. Nixon Impeachment was off the table for a long time until public anger grew to be overwhelming.

or so I've read.

basically we're getting the government most of the people have indicated, via their silence, that they want. while we all are impatient with the pace, remember that the slow pace is also an indication they our system actually is working as intended, as bad as it seems, we really do not want the occupant of the highest office of the land removed until the proper evidence is there.

[eShirl]

17. Time.

Lots and lots of time.


I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them on the sand,
Half sunk, a shatter'd visage lies, whose frown
And wrinkled lip and sneer of cold command
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamp'd on these lifeless things,
The hand that mock'd them and the heart that fed.
And on the pedestal these words appear:
"My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains: round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare,
The lone and level sands stretch far away.
(Ozymandias by Shelley)