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Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
Sat Jul 15, 2017, 12:24 AM Jul 2017

I'm getting to the point that I almost can't stand to watch any news.

Not even Rachel. Not so much because of all the drop, flow, deluge. But because of the almost incomprehensible hypocrisy of the GOP. When a Democrat is in the White House or anybody with the name Clinton is anywhere in a position of authority either in or out of government, there is investigation after investigation after investigation. Remember the Rose Law Firm? How about Vince Foster's suicide? Whitewater? Email servers? Benghazi?

And then there is Paula Jones. She claimed sexual assault. Bill Clinton denied it. It was scheduled for trial. It was dismissed. Jones appealed the dismissal. They settled. End of story. And Monica and the blue dress. Which everyone agrees was a consensual affair instigated by Lewinski.

And the GOP howled for blood on every single one of these. How many hearings were there on Benghazi? And every one of them came up with 'nothing here'. How many hours went into the public hearings on Hillary's email server? Bill Clinton was impeached, for God's sake, for trying to sail a little too close to the wind when testifying about his relationship with Monica. And don't forget there was a Special Prosecutor named Ken Starr (who now says there is no need for a Special Prosecutor for Trump).

Trump refused to release his taxes, obey ethics standards, obey the Constution, lies all the time, he and his administration colluded with Russia to get him elected and have not stopped lying about it. And what is the GOP reaction?

Nothing to see here folks. The Democrats are just making stuff up and trying to make a mountain out of a nothingburger. Trump didn't do anything wrong. And they have the unmitigated gall to bring up Paula Jones as evidence against Hillary. Say what?? Remember how many women have sued Trump for sexual harassment/assault and Trump has settled out of court. He just goes on 'grabbing them by the pussy' 'none of the cases were proved'. Neither was Paula Jones (the case was dismissed and Clinton settled while the dismissal was being appealed.)

Trump sent Special Forces into Yemen where some 30 civilians, including women and children were killed and the GOP shrugs and moves on. The same GOP turns down the SecState's request for an increased budget for embassy security, an Ambassador goes to a 'Special Mission' in Benghazi (note not an Embassy), a riot breaks out, and the Ambassador is killed.

OMG! Hearing after hearing after hearing. How many hearings have there been about the Yemeni incursion?

If a Democrat does it, then we have to investigate what they did wrong. If Trump does it 'nothing to see here, just move along'. I want to know how many of those traitorous bastards are getting money funneled to them by the Russians and their allies? We already know McConnell is on the Russian payroll, how many others?

I weep for my country.

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I'm getting to the point that I almost can't stand to watch any news. (Original Post) Stonepounder Jul 2017 OP
I understand Hekate Jul 2017 #1
Yeah. :( Solly Mack Jul 2017 #2
I've been very depressed about this cilla4progress Jul 2017 #3
..."This is historic..." SalviaBlue Jul 2017 #29
I feel your pain. southerncrone Jul 2017 #4
a friend of mine moved to mexico recently orleans Jul 2017 #11
If my son and little grandson didn't live 3 blocks away from me, I'd be moving, too. Nay Jul 2017 #14
The friend I was speaking with said she has looked into Canada. southerncrone Jul 2017 #17
I'm lucky in that my mother was Canadian and I have citizenship through her. Nay Jul 2017 #19
Figures, I'm always a generation late & a dollar short! southerncrone Jul 2017 #21
I know. For many years, my brother and I did not know we could get Canadian Nay Jul 2017 #22
Roku and foreign sources be my only savior... So much happening without coverage stateside. eom Purveyor Jul 2017 #5
Same here! n/t RKP5637 Jul 2017 #26
My dear Stone leftieNanner Jul 2017 #6
Me too. notdarkyet Jul 2017 #7
I turned Rachel off tonight after about 10 minutes Mickju Jul 2017 #8
Grand total all of mistakes, questionable decisions of all the Presidents do not add up to Trump. gordianot Jul 2017 #9
I got there in 2004 Warpy Jul 2017 #10
I listen to Bloomberg Radio when I drive to work Sen. Walter Sobchak Jul 2017 #12
Me, too. narnian60 Jul 2017 #13
Sadly and perfectly stated. The disappointment, fear, anger gnaws at me... Guilded Lilly Jul 2017 #15
The whole point is to get you down. Demtexan Jul 2017 #16
I struggle w/realizing you are correct about them wanting us to give up & tune out, and trying to southerncrone Jul 2017 #24
I know. Demtexan Jul 2017 #25
I got to that point years ago. Iggo Jul 2017 #18
Same here. I haven't looked at TV news for decades. nt Nay Jul 2017 #23
Don't expect our media to ever care about civilian deaths Nevernose Jul 2017 #20
curious about your last assessment Skittles Jul 2017 #27
Just a couple Stonepounder Jul 2017 #32
I've been SCREAMING at the TV lately ghostsinthemachine Jul 2017 #28
It's pro-authoritarian. Pro-dictatorship. sharedvalues Jul 2017 #31
Well ghostsinthemachine Jul 2017 #33
+1 uponit7771 Jul 2017 #35
I'm There Too... Oubaas Jul 2017 #30
the modern republican motto, to paraphrase Nixon, "When a Republican does it, it is not illegal" bullimiami Jul 2017 #34

cilla4progress

(24,723 posts)
3. I've been very depressed about this
Sat Jul 15, 2017, 12:34 AM
Jul 2017

self medicated to excess more than once this week (alcohol and mj). I don't see an end to it.

Watched none today. Only read online. Bad enough.

This is historic, and I weep with you.

southerncrone

(5,506 posts)
4. I feel your pain.
Sat Jul 15, 2017, 12:58 AM
Jul 2017

It feels like we are living in an alternative universe. Told a friend today, I'm ready to find another planet, or perhaps another country. I don't relish the idea of living in a dictatorship/rape culture.
My only hope is they are collecting enuf evidence to take down numerous, well-placed traitors. That connecting the dots is taking time.

orleans

(34,043 posts)
11. a friend of mine moved to mexico recently
Sat Jul 15, 2017, 03:11 AM
Jul 2017

because she couldn't handle this bullshit anymore.

i think it is very sad people have the need to flee this country because of all these fu*king assholes and the shit they do. and yet, some days i find it difficult to believe i haven't had a heart attack or stroke from all the crap/stress/pressure.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
14. If my son and little grandson didn't live 3 blocks away from me, I'd be moving, too.
Sat Jul 15, 2017, 08:01 AM
Jul 2017

To Canada.

I just can't leave them, though. I love them too much.

My greatest regret is that we didn't move there when my son was a baby. I will always regret that. I have apologized to him for not moving. They would have had such a good life there.

southerncrone

(5,506 posts)
17. The friend I was speaking with said she has looked into Canada.
Sat Jul 15, 2017, 11:45 PM
Jul 2017

They have a point system & our age works against us. My grandmother's family was one of the founding families of Canada, but not sure how I could prove it since the courthouse holding her birth records burned down over a century ago.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
19. I'm lucky in that my mother was Canadian and I have citizenship through her.
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 04:57 AM
Jul 2017

Unfortunately, my son cannot get his citizenship through me because I am considered a naturalized citizen, not a natural born citizen. We tried that already for him.

So your grandmother, but not your mother or father, was Canadian? That won't help, even if you could prove grandma's citizenship. So sorry!

Nay

(12,051 posts)
22. I know. For many years, my brother and I did not know we could get Canadian
Tue Jul 18, 2017, 08:35 AM
Jul 2017

citizenship through our mother. We were in our fifties when we found out. If we had known, my husband and I could have moved, as a young couple with a young child, and raised our child there. It bothers me to this day that we didn't investigate that more thoroughly. Of course, there was no such thing as internet back then, so you had to actually show up at/call an embassy to find out any details, and I never did. I regret it to this day. I feel that my son would have been sooooooo much better off growing up in Canada.

 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
5. Roku and foreign sources be my only savior... So much happening without coverage stateside. eom
Sat Jul 15, 2017, 01:18 AM
Jul 2017

saviour

leftieNanner

(15,074 posts)
6. My dear Stone
Sat Jul 15, 2017, 01:20 AM
Jul 2017

I feel the same way. Sometimes just have to go to the rescue barn where I volunteer and love on some horses. My greatest fear at this point is that 2018 is, as yet, unsecured. I attended our local Indivisible meeting on Sunday and will be more involved. Keep engaged as best as you can and have a cocktail when you can't.

Mickju

(1,799 posts)
8. I turned Rachel off tonight after about 10 minutes
Sat Jul 15, 2017, 01:23 AM
Jul 2017

I just couldn't stand to hear any more and switched to a National Geographic show about Hitler's physician. It was less disturbing.

gordianot

(15,237 posts)
9. Grand total all of mistakes, questionable decisions of all the Presidents do not add up to Trump.
Sat Jul 15, 2017, 01:58 AM
Jul 2017

Only thing missing so far are mass casualties.

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
12. I listen to Bloomberg Radio when I drive to work
Sat Jul 15, 2017, 04:24 AM
Jul 2017

I'm out west so I just want to catch up on the day already in-progress.

But otherwise watching the news just makes me irritable and angry.

Guilded Lilly

(5,591 posts)
15. Sadly and perfectly stated. The disappointment, fear, anger gnaws at me...
Sat Jul 15, 2017, 09:32 AM
Jul 2017

daily, too.

We are living in a hideous nightmare and while day to day life goes on as best as possible, there is an unstated numbness that seems to permeate everything.

What could and should have been-but for the criminality and deceit that is proudly and rampantly practiced by men of disgusting character and billious morality- eats at everyone.

If it isn't dealing with the sheer anti-humanity of those disgusting men in power, it is the hate, bigotry, racism and misogyny that they enable in truly ugly Americans all over the country and Internet. None of it is even attempted to be hidden anymore.

As a nation we had made such positive strides under Obama. The hope, the hard fight towards equality and quality of life were moving slowly and firmly forward. It was always a fight against the god damn ugliness of Republicans and soulless conservatives threatened by open minds and color blindness and gender equality. But we were forging forward to try and right so many wrongs we, as a nation had still practiced since our "declarations".

And now THIS fucking backslide/nightmare all spawned from illegality, lies, pure hate and crimes and treason and unbelievable STUPID. It's evil and soul battering. ( and RUSSIA for all that is considered holy. Russia.)

I acknowledge that the wheels of justice turn slowly while forces of evil move at lightening speed to destroy that which is positive. But, I can't comprehend how sane men and women in power cannot/have yet to DO something about it.

The obvious crimes and treasonous acts have been so readily successful.

It eats away at the spirit.

Demtexan

(1,588 posts)
16. The whole point is to get you down.
Sat Jul 15, 2017, 05:42 PM
Jul 2017

The constant hitting with the news.

I found a balance.

I only watch so much news.

I do other things I enjoy.

The republicans want us to give up.

Trump and his republican gang are scared.

They want us to give up.

We can't.

This is our World War, whatever we want to call it.

Turn off news for a day or two.

We can all take turns.



southerncrone

(5,506 posts)
24. I struggle w/realizing you are correct about them wanting us to give up & tune out, and trying to
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 07:34 PM
Jul 2017

keep up the fight. After all, 41 said "just let us take care of politics, just enjoy your life.", or something to that affect. Worked well for them, too.
However, things do not look hopeful right now. No other person on the planet has ever demonstrated such outrageous behavior & not been held accountable. Treason, admitted-sexual assault, & fraud, just to name a few. Republicans and the MSM are covering for him over & over. WHY? Even Dems are not shouting from the rooftops like they should be.

It's hard to have hope under those conditions.

Demtexan

(1,588 posts)
25. I know.
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 10:18 PM
Jul 2017

I have bad days to but given up is what they want.

Take some time off just a day or two.

We are stronger then we think.

It will not be easy but we will win.

Never give up and never surrender.

This our WW whatever.

I am not afraid or depressed.


Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
20. Don't expect our media to ever care about civilian deaths
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 05:02 AM
Jul 2017

Much less our congress. They MIGHT get a mention on the nightly news, but don't expect sympathy or remorse. We're taught from an early age that non-Western-Europeans barely even qualify as human and/or that if our Sacred Holy Military (God be praised!) does it, then it's ok.

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
32. Just a couple
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 11:02 PM
Jul 2017

McConnell Implicated In Widespread Putin/Ukraine Money Funnel – FBI Notified
http://bipartisanreport.com/2017/05/31/mcconnell-implicated-in-widespread-putinukraine-money-funnel-fbi-notified/

Ryan and McConnell on Tape Discussing Illegal Russian Money
www.bluedotdaily.com/ryan-and-mcconnell-on-tape-discussing-illegal-russian-money/

BREAKING: Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell Both Received Campaign Money From Russia
https://www.truthexaminer.com/2017/04/breaking-paul-ryan-and-mitch-mcconnell-both-received-campaign-money-from-russia-details/

ghostsinthemachine

(3,569 posts)
28. I've been SCREAMING at the TV lately
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 10:36 PM
Jul 2017

Especially in the story about TRump not hiring Sessions if he knew he was going to recuse himself. Not one, national, or local, newsperson mentioned that it is stupid because of the timeline. (I only watch the free TV news.). TRump could not have known, nor could Sessions, until after he was appointed.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
31. It's pro-authoritarian. Pro-dictatorship.
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 10:49 PM
Jul 2017

When 45 says he didn't want Sessions to recuse himself, he's saying he doesn't want to be subject to the rule of law.

Our republic stands on the rule of law. A major difference between US democracy and autocracy or dictatorship is -- the rule of law.

Why aren't journalists saying this? Jake Tapper is tweeting today he's worried about right wing hit jobs directed at him.

ghostsinthemachine

(3,569 posts)
33. Well
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 11:08 PM
Jul 2017

Just saying he couldn't do that would be enough. I'd never expect them to go all the way. Not after Bush and their parroting the Obama Kenyan stories.

Oubaas

(131 posts)
30. I'm There Too...
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 10:45 PM
Jul 2017

I took about two months off of reading the news recently and just came back the other day. After getting back up to speed, I thought that perhaps I'd somehow awakened in some bizarre alternate universe or something, where everything is reversed and sanity isn't what's normal anymore. The horrible thing is that instead of compartmentalizing each story for safety as I got back up to speed on the news, my mind synthesized all the stories into some sort of "big picture". Don't let that happen. It makes things worse.

I keep trying to tell myself that they're like vampires, they can't come in unless you invite them. But then curiosity gets the better of me and I have to go have one more slack-jawed peek at the train wreck. But it's like digital syrup of ipecac. Why do I do it?

Lately, I've been wondering if you can vape model airplane glue. I was sort of hoping that something like that might sever my link to reality. But I don't know how to vape, what you use, or anything, and it occurred to me that the glue is probably too volatile to respond well.

So I guess I'm stuck. Eventually I'll read something that will cause a blood vessel to rupture in my brain and that will be that. And more time off from the news scares me. I'm afraid that if I take another couple of months off from paying attention, when I come back they'll be feeding kittens to alligators by the shovelful on TV and blaming Democrats as they shovel or something and nobody will even care.

I've finally settled on fervently hoping that the Tralfamadorians will come get me and take me to their zoo. It's the best I can do for a solution with all that's whizzing past my horrified eyes.

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