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riversedge

(70,077 posts)
Sat Jul 15, 2017, 03:29 PM Jul 2017

Dear Amateur #Kushner: If you are going to lie, don't be stupid. I've submitted SF86 forms. It requi




Ted Lieu?Verified account @tedlieu 15h15 hours ago

Wish we had lot more Dems on Twitter like Ted.


Ted Lieu Retweeted Blake Hounshell

Dear Amateur #Kushner: If you are going to lie, don't be stupid. I've submitted SF86 forms. It requires a wet signature. That means you.

Ted Lieu added,
Blake HounshellVerified account @blakehounshell

"a member of [Kushner's] staff prematurely hit the 'send' button for the [clearance] form before it was completed" https://www.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/sources-trump-lawyers-knew-russia-emails-back-june-000320831.html
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Dear Amateur #Kushner: If you are going to lie, don't be stupid. I've submitted SF86 forms. It requi (Original Post) riversedge Jul 2017 OP
Oops ! OnDoutside Jul 2017 #1
I remember filling out that form, or its equivalent in 1965. MineralMan Jul 2017 #2
I think the initial investigation is that mercuryblues Jul 2017 #7
I wonder if anybody who meets or has met Trump Turbineguy Jul 2017 #3
I remember having to fill out the security form in 1985, and there was no if's or and's in turbinetree Jul 2017 #4
Off to the greatest page malaise Jul 2017 #5
Actually this is wrong Lee-Lee Jul 2017 #6
The Best part is that Kushner sank his wife by lying on the forms. dixiegrrrrl Jul 2017 #8

MineralMan

(146,254 posts)
2. I remember filling out that form, or its equivalent in 1965.
Sat Jul 15, 2017, 03:42 PM
Jul 2017

It wasn't easy, since I was currently in Basic Training in the USAF, and was about to be sent to the Russian Language School at Syracuse University for a total-immersion Russian language school for 9 months.

I had no access to address information for anyone, so it was very difficult to provide addresses for references, employment and other things. As it turned out, it was OK to do the best I could, so that's what I did.

The process was intensive. My parents told me that FBI people had interviewed all of the people in my hometown who I had identified as references, along with neighbors and other in my little home town in California.

I also learned that every other person I had named also was interviewed, including college professors, employers, and people who had lived in the same dorm as I did.

I was called into an interview, while at the language school to explain why I had received mail from radio stations in the Soviet bloc. I explained that I had been an avid short wave radio broadcast listener as a teenager and had sent reception reports all over the world to get cards proving I had heard those stations. It was a hobby, and some countries sent me boxes of propaganda. The interviewer said that wasn't a problem, and actually might be a plus, considering what I was being trained for.

In any case, the process was intensive and thorough. I guess I passed muster, though, since I ended up with a security clearance that kept getting enhanced in its level as I did more and more jobs during my enlistment.

I don't know if the investigations are still that thorough, and have no idea what's involved for people on the President's staff.

mercuryblues

(14,522 posts)
7. I think the initial investigation is that
Sat Jul 15, 2017, 04:54 PM
Jul 2017

thorough. When one of my kids was getting clearance enhancements I would get a call. By the third one I got the call 6 months after she was in the job she needed the enhancement for. Now I don't get any. Friends, relatives, teachers and the place she volunteered for haven't told me of any visits in years. I always wondered why I got a phone call and others got visits.

turbinetree

(24,683 posts)
4. I remember having to fill out the security form in 1985, and there was no if's or and's in
Sat Jul 15, 2017, 03:57 PM
Jul 2017

there, it said: did you or did you not......................with a yes or no, that had to be done in either black or blue pen, and then you had to complete and sign.

There was ooooooooooooooooops section.

I hate TREASON.......................







 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
6. Actually this is wrong
Sat Jul 15, 2017, 04:19 PM
Jul 2017

The form is done on an online platform and all but 4 pages are submitted electronically. The 4 are printed and you sign there essentially authorizing release of the rest of the electronic document.

While the system is set up to try and deter you from jumping right ahead, it's possible to do it or in the case of someone with multiple responses to list if you have one where you need 20 it sees that as answered.

And I've seen the system hiccup and after the documents were signed everything or part of your data go away, that's why a close review is always called for before hitting submit.

It is fully possible the way the system is set up that they printed the forms and had him sign before they had all the data entry. It would be an irresponsible way to go, but it is technically possible to happen.

Here is a good description of it.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.clearancejobs.com/2013/07/19/eqip-questions-and-answers/amp/

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
8. The Best part is that Kushner sank his wife by lying on the forms.
Sat Jul 15, 2017, 05:50 PM
Jul 2017

Apparently you have to answer if you OR your spouse had foreign contacts.
Given that he lied on the form, it will be extremely unlikely that she did not know about any of those contacts when she filled our her form.

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