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MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 10:11 AM Jul 2017

Adam Schiff Drops A Bombshell By Showing How Trump Knew About Russia Collusion

Adam Schiff Drops A Bombshell By Showing How Trump Knew About Russia Collusion

By Jason Easley on Sun, Jul 16th, 2017 at 9:54 am

House Intelligence Committee ranking member Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA) pointed to a canceled Trump speech during the campaign that was supposed to be about Clinton at around the time Trump Jr. was meeting with Russians as a possible indication that Trump knew about Russia collusion.

House Intelligence Committee ranking member Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA) pointed to a canceled Trump speech during the campaign that was supposed to be about Clinton at around the time Trump Jr. was meeting with Russians as a possible indication that Trump knew about Russia collusion.

Schiff listened to Trump’s lawyer appear before him on ABC’s This Week and said:

What I take away from his discussion with you is two things. Two points he wants to make. First, the President didn’t know, and second, even if he did, there’s no crime here. Now, to believe that though we have to rely on two things. We have to rely on Don Jr.’s representation of what happened in that meeting, and we’ve already seen many times, of course, we can’t rely on that because first, he said no such meeting ever happened, and then he said the meeting was about adoptions, and then he admitted that the meeting was about getting information on Hillary Clinton, and then he wasn’t forthcoming about who was in the meeting, so we can’t accept anything Don Jr. says, and of course, we can’t accept much that the President says about this either because he has a similar record of not being forthcoming when it comes to Russia.

And indeed, if you look at the President’s statements around this time, he announces a speech he’s going to give where he is going to give the dirt on Hillary Clinton that he then cancels. Now that would corroborate that Don Jr. didn’t get the information he was hoping for, but of course, it contradicts the idea that he was unaware.

Link w/ video: http://www.politicususa.com/2017/07/16/adam-schiff-drops-bombshell-showing-trump-knew-russia-collusion.html
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Adam Schiff Drops A Bombshell By Showing How Trump Knew About Russia Collusion (Original Post) MelissaB Jul 2017 OP
Yeah for Congressman Schiff Gothmog Jul 2017 #1
He gets my vote for future president. Auntie Bush Jul 2017 #3
I hope he considers a run NastyRiffraff Jul 2017 #11
Right there with you, though for me Stryst Jul 2017 #17
He's my congressman but I'll gladly release him to the U.S. Senate oasis Jul 2017 #20
Now that would be a good place for him. Qutzupalotl Jul 2017 #21
Adam's a poker faced pro who has the disipline to stay on topic and oasis Jul 2017 #22
He's my... Mike Nelson Jul 2017 #23
I've been a fan of Schiff's since he unseated Rethug Rogan oasis Jul 2017 #30
Jay is that you, Mister Leno? Or just where he works? MiddleClass Jul 2017 #24
Jay Leno lives in Beverly Hills, Ted Lieu's district. oasis Jul 2017 #33
The studio is a Burbank? So it's where he works, or used to work MiddleClass Jul 2017 #35
I've lived in several states long enough to be called oasis Jul 2017 #36
I think LA is basically a stretched out New York MiddleClass Jul 2017 #39
Logical deductions malaise Jul 2017 #2
1:40 PM - 9 Jun 2016 ... Trump tweets about the e-mails! L. Coyote Jul 2017 #4
Here we go again, with Mensch's "sources with links to the intelligence community." The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2017 #10
"Page not found" on CNN Money link. Duppers Jul 2017 #28
Yeah, Mensch is full of speculation and hyperbole. progressoid Jul 2017 #37
A control freak like Trump Turbineguy Jul 2017 #5
Yep..control freaks know everything...shit hits the fan, the underlings take the hit HipChick Jul 2017 #14
Bam! Smart man w/a way of putting everything together succinctly. nt Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #6
Recommended. H2O Man Jul 2017 #7
What a good, noble man. C_U_L8R Jul 2017 #8
Schiff: Evolution of a Defense MelissaB Jul 2017 #9
And after "I didn't know" comes . . . gratuitous Jul 2017 #40
Circumstantial evidence holds up in court if there's enough of it. Nitram Jul 2017 #12
Schiff/Harris 2020 VigilantG Jul 2017 #13
When someone lies, then lies again, has an opportunity to correct the record---- Grammy23 Jul 2017 #15
k and r....nt Stuart G Jul 2017 #16
Did he watch TYT D_Master81 Jul 2017 #18
KnR Hekate Jul 2017 #19
I take this as bad news. might have been Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2017 #25
I think Rudy Guliani also made such reference.... FarPoint Jul 2017 #26
He did...on purpose or sue to his big mouth. BigmanPigman Jul 2017 #27
terrific point stuffmatters Jul 2017 #29
Rudy also said something big was coming 2 days before Comey's letter to Congress MrPurple Jul 2017 #32
Adam Schiff is awesome trueblue2007 Jul 2017 #31
The Trump team behaves like you would expect a kindergarten student. They make comments Thinkingabout Jul 2017 #34
Very interesting... Beartracks Jul 2017 #38

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
11. I hope he considers a run
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 11:09 AM
Jul 2017

It's a long shot, but he's poised, smart and articulate. And a good DEMOCRAT. He'd definitely get my support and of course my vote. I'd be happy to volunteer for his campaign.

Stryst

(714 posts)
17. Right there with you, though for me
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 12:34 PM
Jul 2017

It's a tough though, because I've been following Ted Lieu, and if it wasn't the natural born citizen thing keeping him from running, I would have looked at him to be a presidential contender. But Schiff has been a lion for a while now.

oasis

(49,376 posts)
20. He's my congressman but I'll gladly release him to the U.S. Senate
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 01:08 PM
Jul 2017

after Dianne Feinstein's retirement.

Qutzupalotl

(14,300 posts)
21. Now that would be a good place for him.
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 01:20 PM
Jul 2017

I like him a lot. He is calm and measured, like Obama. I don't see him having the rockstar appeal that made Obama's presidency possible. Although he is presidential, I don't see him getting in except as someone flashier's VP, then ascending. Sad, but that's politics now.

But he is a brilliant legal mind and we certainly need him in the House or Senate.

oasis

(49,376 posts)
22. Adam's a poker faced pro who has the disipline to stay on topic and
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 01:28 PM
Jul 2017

cleverly avoids getting sucked into food fights.

oasis

(49,376 posts)
30. I've been a fan of Schiff's since he unseated Rethug Rogan
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 08:22 PM
Jul 2017

who paid the price for being a Clinton impeachment manager. Lindsey Graham was also an impeachment manager but he remained popular with red state Carolina deplorables of the 90's era and kept his congressional seat.

oasis

(49,376 posts)
33. Jay Leno lives in Beverly Hills, Ted Lieu's district.
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 09:27 PM
Jul 2017

He's a great Democratic representative as well.

MiddleClass

(888 posts)
35. The studio is a Burbank? So it's where he works, or used to work
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 09:51 PM
Jul 2017

I'm in New York across the river from Hillary, but I've been to San Fran/LA/San Diego

highway 1, beautiful

oasis

(49,376 posts)
36. I've lived in several states long enough to be called
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 10:17 PM
Jul 2017

to jury duty in each one.

My spouse and I were both born and reared in L.A. California.

MiddleClass

(888 posts)
39. I think LA is basically a stretched out New York
Mon Jul 17, 2017, 12:49 PM
Jul 2017

In Manhattan, everybody lives in a high-rise buildings. Basically,

in the boroughs it's a mix, now Staten Island is like a miniature LA with more Irish, Italian, less Spanish.

So basically, LA is like the better parts of New York, spread out, even Watts

malaise

(268,913 posts)
2. Logical deductions
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 10:23 AM
Jul 2017

We have a proverb here - 'cock mouth kill cock'. It is perfect for Groper Don the Con.
He so has to be the man in the know that he has never known when to STFU. That has provided a fabulous trail - on twitter and video.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
4. 1:40 PM - 9 Jun 2016 ... Trump tweets about the e-mails!
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 10:30 AM
Jul 2017



NY Times: .... this episode at Trump Tower on June 9, 2016, is the first confirmed private meeting between a Russian national and members of Mr. Trump’s inner circle during the campaign. It is also the first time that his son Donald Trump Jr. is known to have been involved in such a meeting.



https://patribotics.blog/2017/07/15/exclusive-donald-trump-called-into-a-trump-tower-russian-spy-meeting/

Sources with links to the intelligence community and the justice department report that Donald Trump himself is on tape calling in to a meeting at Trump Tower, where collusion with Russians was discussed.

Sources could not confirm, however, that the meeting where collusion in the election was discussed was the one at which his son, Donald J Trump Jr, recently admitted to conspiring with Russians to hack the election.

They pointed out that there was more than one meeting at Trump Tower where attacking the integrity of the US election was discussed by Trump campaign officials and representatives of the Russian government.

The source of the recording of Mr. Trump was his campaign chairman Paul Manafort, Mr. Trump’s campaign chairman. His phone had been legally hacked by the United States intelligence community ..................

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,669 posts)
10. Here we go again, with Mensch's "sources with links to the intelligence community."
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 11:09 AM
Jul 2017

This makes no sense. First she says Trump is on "tape" (there is no "tape" any more) calling in to the meeting, then she says Manafort was the source of the "tape" because his phone was legally "hacked" (phones are not "hacked&quot , turning it into a hot mic that recorded the whole meeting. (This is technically possible, but unlikely to have occurred in Trump Tower because it requires the installation of a separate, miniature cell tower or transmission device that signals the phone to look like it's been switched off but it's on, using the microphone. http://money.cnn.com/2014/06/06/technology/security/nsa-turn-on-phone/index.html.)

But how could Manafort be the "source" of the alleged "tape" of his phone, supposedly acquired through a FISA warrant?

Once again, the article contains a lot of speculation and a lot of cloak-and-dagger buzzwords, but if the allegation had any substance it would be on the front page of the New York Times, not in this goofy little hobby blog.

C_U_L8R

(44,997 posts)
8. What a good, noble man.
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 10:59 AM
Jul 2017

I hope we inspire and nurture thousands more Schiffs in the Democratic Party.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
40. And after "I didn't know" comes . . .
Mon Jul 17, 2017, 12:54 PM
Jul 2017

Have I ever lied to you?

It's amazing to me how quickly a Democrat loses all credibility for the least transgression, but Republicans are given a second, third, fourth bite at the apple, as if none of the previous out-and-out lies count for anything. "Oh, this time for sure he's telling the truth! No? Well, let's give him one more chance. He's just a 39-year-old babe in the woods, unaccustomed to these byzantine 'rules' about the truth."

Nitram

(22,791 posts)
12. Circumstantial evidence holds up in court if there's enough of it.
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 11:50 AM
Jul 2017

It's adding up. Combined with evidence being collected by Mueller's team, I have a feeling the case against the entire Trump campaign and administration will be powerful.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
15. When someone lies, then lies again, has an opportunity to correct the record----
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 12:14 PM
Jul 2017

and fails one more time to be forthcoming with truth, it should be no surprise that anything this person says is suspect. With the tRump bunch, you must listen to every single word because often the truth is hiding in plain sight. Or there is a contradiction. But never, ever do they say the whole, unvarnished truth. I look forward to the day when they must testify, under oath, about their deeds and misdeeds. I want to see them sweat, although I imagine that tRump, Sr. being the accomplished liar in chief, will be smooth as silk, cool as a cucumber because lying is his second language.

I am glad there is an Adam Schiff involved because he, too, is calm but determined to get to the facts, the unvarnished truth every bit as much as tRump is determined to deny it and try to keep it hidden.

D_Master81

(1,822 posts)
18. Did he watch TYT
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 12:46 PM
Jul 2017

The Young Turks had a video on youtube that i watched talking about this several days ago.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
25. I take this as bad news. might have been
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 03:59 PM
Jul 2017

Our only chance to nail them. I recall this ...Trump promising dirt. He never had a Clinton dirt speech did he?

FarPoint

(12,335 posts)
26. I think Rudy Guliani also made such reference....
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 04:16 PM
Jul 2017

Regarding soon to be breaking news/ dump on Hillary was imimant....then, he clammed up....

MrPurple

(985 posts)
32. Rudy also said something big was coming 2 days before Comey's letter to Congress
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 09:14 PM
Jul 2017

saying that they were investigating Wiener's laptop. He must have known that through his FBI contacts and he has a track record of priming the pump like this.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
34. The Trump team behaves like you would expect a kindergarten student. They make comments
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 09:39 PM
Jul 2017

like they are trying to fool another kindergarten student. So immature.

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