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I'm Calling It. We Have a Special Election in Az. McCain Isn't Coming Back. (Original Post) VermontKevin Jul 2017 OP
Harsh to think McCain might not bounce back. Vibes to the McCain applegrove Jul 2017 #1
That's not the vibe I'm getting. I had an aneurysm clipped, and was up and walking within VermontKevin Jul 2017 #2
were you around his age ? JI7 Jul 2017 #4
In my 50s. VermontKevin Jul 2017 #14
It would be good for him to have a break, honestly Tiggeroshii Jul 2017 #3
Might be harsh to say but TlalocW Jul 2017 #5
I see it as his 6th plane crash. He's had a good run. VermontKevin Jul 2017 #16
"he continued to inflict himself on us." Sad but true, and funny at the same time. brush Jul 2017 #17
Boycott coldstone? Blue_Warrior Jul 2017 #6
I cant even figure out how to LeftInTX Jul 2017 #10
It's not that difficult Dem2 Jul 2017 #23
Actually, Ducey sold Cold Stone Creamery in 2007... VOX Jul 2017 #7
Dunno, small clot under the skull but on top of the lining Warpy Jul 2017 #8
It's an almost 2 inch clot -- not small. n/t pnwmom Jul 2017 #9
He needs to retire MFM008 Jul 2017 #11
Not unless he resigns jberryhill Jul 2017 #12
Can he be removed for incapacity? VermontKevin Jul 2017 #15
Removed by whom? jberryhill Jul 2017 #19
So, if McCain is too incapacitated to resign on his own, you VermontKevin Jul 2017 #24
remember mark kirk. mopinko Jul 2017 #21
Coldstone Creamery is overpriced gimmicky crap and unhealthy Not Ruth Jul 2017 #13
Are they the ones who do the spreading with a spatula thing with the ice cream? brush Jul 2017 #18
Maybe Ann Kirkpatrick gets another shot? Blue_Tires Jul 2017 #20
This will be an opportunity for Arizona to have 2 Democratic US Senators in the same year. nkpolitics1212 Jul 2017 #22
 

VermontKevin

(1,473 posts)
2. That's not the vibe I'm getting. I had an aneurysm clipped, and was up and walking within
Mon Jul 17, 2017, 12:42 AM
Jul 2017

24 hours. If he had the surgery Friday, and they are saying a couple of weeks, well, then he's in bad shape.

 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
3. It would be good for him to have a break, honestly
Mon Jul 17, 2017, 12:42 AM
Jul 2017

He deserves some down time for him and his family

TlalocW

(15,374 posts)
5. Might be harsh to say but
Mon Jul 17, 2017, 12:49 AM
Jul 2017

I'm ambivalent on whether or not he bounces back. McCain's career in congress has been more negative than positive for the United States. He shouldn't have survived the Keating Scandal, but he did, and he continued to inflict himself on us.

TlalocW

brush

(53,743 posts)
17. "he continued to inflict himself on us." Sad but true, and funny at the same time.
Mon Jul 17, 2017, 07:11 AM
Jul 2017

It was only a matter of time. Since the last election didn't get him out, something else was bound to.

He stayed at the party way too long.

LeftInTX

(25,141 posts)
10. I cant even figure out how to
Mon Jul 17, 2017, 02:50 AM
Jul 2017

boycott Koch products. They own asphalt. Do I boycott roads? They make generic store brand paper products. They own oil companies, but I've never seen Koch gas stations. They own fertilizer companies, but I've never seen Koch fertilizers. I heard they were sponsors on NPR, do I boycott the program? (Actually a letter writing campaign maybe could work for their NPR and PBS support, but both medias are hurting)

Boycotting Exxon is also complicated: They make jet fuel.

Dem2

(8,166 posts)
23. It's not that difficult
Mon Jul 17, 2017, 09:48 AM
Jul 2017

But, what the heck, my liberal boss shops at hobby lobby. People don't boycott because they want to buy everything and a slight savings and they don't give a crap who those vile business owners support or what they're doing to our country.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
7. Actually, Ducey sold Cold Stone Creamery in 2007...
Mon Jul 17, 2017, 01:04 AM
Jul 2017

It initially was acquired by a holding company, Kahala; later, the Ontario, Canada-based Serruya family bought a controlling interest in the holding company, which still owns Cold Stone.

Warpy

(111,168 posts)
8. Dunno, small clot under the skull but on top of the lining
Mon Jul 17, 2017, 01:38 AM
Jul 2017

and the old goat will be back in a week or two. It sounds like he banged his head on something, not that there was a significant bleed.

It would be nice if he didn't go back, though. Maybe AZ could dig up an appointment who wasn't as addled as their usual fare.

Then again, they'd probably yank J. D. Hayworth out of his media job and send him. Ugh.

 

VermontKevin

(1,473 posts)
15. Can he be removed for incapacity?
Mon Jul 17, 2017, 05:11 AM
Jul 2017

I get that the AZ gov can put in a temp and then have a special election if he dies or resigns. But what do they do if he's incapacitated and not able to execute the duties of office?

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
19. Removed by whom?
Mon Jul 17, 2017, 07:33 AM
Jul 2017

Arizona provides for recall elections of its senators.

As you may remember in connection with Gabby Giffords, incapacity is not some sort of bar to retaining one's seat in Congress.

Unsurprisingly, given that election of public officials is fairly important, there are few ways to remove an elected official from office without the voters having some say in the matter.
 

VermontKevin

(1,473 posts)
24. So, if McCain is too incapacitated to resign on his own, you
Mon Jul 17, 2017, 03:20 PM
Jul 2017

think there would have to be a recall election? Would a new Senator be chosen then? Or would there be a recall, interim Senator, then new election?

brush

(53,743 posts)
18. Are they the ones who do the spreading with a spatula thing with the ice cream?
Mon Jul 17, 2017, 07:18 AM
Jul 2017

I never did get that. What, it takes out the air bubbles or something?

Gimmicky is right.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
20. Maybe Ann Kirkpatrick gets another shot?
Mon Jul 17, 2017, 07:37 AM
Jul 2017

I went to one of her meet-and-greets last year and was very impressed

nkpolitics1212

(8,617 posts)
22. This will be an opportunity for Arizona to have 2 Democratic US Senators in the same year.
Mon Jul 17, 2017, 09:37 AM
Jul 2017

Arizona Democrats can nominate Mark Kelly to run for the McCain seat and Phil Gordon to run against Flake.

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