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Mon Jul 17, 2017, 10:46 AM

What if DRUMPF pardons everybody?!1 & biggest stunt of all time if he testifies under oath

Another archaism in the Constitution (the Electoral C. is just one of several) - inability to override presidential pardons. The article is predictable for SEKULOW nuttiness and rehash of the past week, but there's this bit about DRUMPF testifying under oath. He probably *would* do it as a stunt to end all his stunts, without grokking what a perjury minefield he'd be skipping into. You go, DRUMPF!1

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http://nypost.com/2017/07/16/trumps-lawyer-coy-on-whether-hell-pardon-figures-in-russia-probe/
Trump’s lawyer coy on whether he’ll pardon figures in Russia probe

.... Still, Sekulow said Trump would appear before Mueller under oath if needed.

“Look, the president was very clear that if it came to that, and I don’t think it will, but if it came to that, he would do that,” Sekulow told ABC’s “This Week.”

As Trump associates are shaking up their legal teams, Sekulow said it’s not “unusual” for Trump’s reelection campaign contributions to be used to pay for the family’s legal bills.

CNN reported the Trump campaign paid $50,000 to the law firm representing Donald Trump Jr. ....

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Reply What if DRUMPF pardons everybody?!1 & biggest stunt of all time if he testifies under oath (Original post)
UTUSN Jul 17 OP
Lithos Jul 17 #1
Shell_Seas Jul 17 #5
Kablooie Jul 17 #9
greymattermom Jul 17 #2
TEB Jul 17 #7
Shell_Seas Jul 17 #3
California_Republic Jul 17 #4
The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 17 #10
leftynyc Jul 17 #6
The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 17 #11
Not Ruth Jul 17 #8
Bettie Jul 17 #12
Fatemah2774 Jul 17 #13

Response to UTUSN (Original post)

Mon Jul 17, 2017, 10:48 AM

1. It would become apparent he's doing it to protect himself

which in turn is against the law.

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Response to Lithos (Reply #1)

Mon Jul 17, 2017, 10:50 AM

5. Or to protects his family.

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Response to Lithos (Reply #1)

Mon Jul 17, 2017, 11:31 AM

9. Everything is apparent but Republicans don't care about law or the constitution.

He will probably pardon everyone before there is any hearing or Mueller can present his evidence.
Everyone will be horrified except the Republicans who can do something about it. They will shrug and ignore the whole thing.

Just watch.

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Response to UTUSN (Original post)

Mon Jul 17, 2017, 10:49 AM

2. So we have to hope

that states are also working on this. I don't think that Mr. Trump can pardon folks accused of state crimes.

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Response to greymattermom (Reply #2)

Mon Jul 17, 2017, 11:06 AM

7. I'm with you

I hope ny brings charges then no pardon

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Response to UTUSN (Original post)

Mon Jul 17, 2017, 10:49 AM

3. Would it solve the problem if

Trump was charged and impeached FIRST? Then, he cohorts?

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Response to UTUSN (Original post)

Mon Jul 17, 2017, 10:49 AM

4. No pardons till charges...

If they do it right... get Trump impeached before charging others

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Response to California_Republic (Reply #4)

Mon Jul 17, 2017, 11:39 AM

10. Not true. He can pardon before anyone is charged.

That's what Ford did for Nixon. He had not been charged with anything at the time Ford pardoned him.

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Response to UTUSN (Original post)

Mon Jul 17, 2017, 11:03 AM

6. Trump can only pardon for federal crimes

Nobody in NY is going to pardon him for the stuff Eric Schneiderman is holding.

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Response to leftynyc (Reply #6)

Mon Jul 17, 2017, 11:41 AM

11. Schneiderman is investigating a lot of financial stuff.

NY has a RICO statute similar to the federal one.

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Response to UTUSN (Original post)

Mon Jul 17, 2017, 11:08 AM

8. Then everyone gets pardoned, but the next election is an enormous referendum against the GOP

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Response to UTUSN (Original post)

Mon Jul 17, 2017, 11:42 AM

12. Appearing under oath doesn't make any difference

He lies as easily as most of us breathe, so lying under oath wouldn't be an issue for him, unless he is forced to swear an oath on himself, the only thing he values.

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Response to UTUSN (Original post)

Mon Jul 17, 2017, 12:06 PM

13. Can we the people...

Pardon him and tell him he gets a nice cell with bread and water, and if he pardons any family or Cabinet members, they get to join him and they all can wear purple and pink striped jumpsuits in similar cells?

Just a wonderful daydreaming thought.

But I like the purple and pink stripes, I believe it will give some class to these dunces.

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