presidential pardons ONLY for federal crimes. if same crimes are also state and local then

[msongs]

state and local jurisdictions can still prosecute the people who were pardoned federally according to google search

wikipedia - scroll down to US/federal law section

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pardon#Federal_law

[bettyellen]

1. It's weird they're saying they'd have to wait till he's out of office and charge him?

Oh lord. I can't believe we have to depend on the GOP congress. This is sick.

[SCantiGOP]

2. Glad we have that provision

Obama would still be in a Texas (or Alabama or SC......) prison after their State Police arrested him.
Seriously, the check on the President is Congress' power of impeachment. It was the Republicans who finally went to Nixon and said to pack up and leave.

[dflprincess]

3. But we wouldn't have to wait for Jared or Donnie Jr (or a whole cast of characters) to be charged

at the state level. And, the NY State Attorney General is investigating Eric for charities fraud. Tiffany & Barron may be the only Trumps not heading to prison.

And you know these weasels will be falling all over each other to make a deal to roll on Daddy when he can be charged.

[SwissTony]

4. General question: can someone be pardoned for something for which they have not been convicted?

I don't know how this pardoning thing works, but doesn't someone have to be found guilty of the "crime" before he/she can be pardoned. If not, what is there to be pardoned?

[msongs]

5. one needs not be convicted or even charged. Nixon was pardoned for anything he MAY have done

for a certain time period (dont recall but u could find that thru a search if you want to know)

[Spider Jerusalem]

6. My guess: Trump is a lot more worried about RICO indictments than Russian collusion.

Since his business and financial dealings will almost certainly show some very questionable and likely prosecutable things.

[Cicada]

7. Civil offenses not pardonable

Mueller could seek to seize assets from money laundering, or he could impose fines for civil violations, and the pardon power does not block those.

But the only real solution is to elect Democrats. Courts are too slow.