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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 08:10 AM Jul 2017

When Will Republicans Learn That Donald Trump Hates Them? - Rick Wilson

Across the Trump-fanatic clickservative media, the week’s theme was ‘Why won’t Republicans follow Donald Trump over the cliff?’

RICK WILSON
07.20.17 1:00 AM ET

-snip-

As Trump dragged Senators to the White House for a North Korean-style rant, threatened Dean Heller to his face and proceeded to take four different positions on where to go next, Republicans took all the political damage a repeal vote would have incurred with the dubious benefit of having Trump lecture them in the Oval Office on how badly they sold their plan. The few who clung to the idea that the president was about to show some actual leadership on the bill didn’t anticipate Trump giving an interview that would—once again—knock the news cycle into orbit.

Jeff Flake, Dean Heller, and Jeff Sessions all had to learn painful lessons on the cost of being on the Trump Train this week. For Flake, Heller and a few other Republicans, setting themselves on fire for a vote on Obamacare repeal was political poison. Their legitimate fear of their constituents was greater—finally—than their fear of Trump. “Winning over Trump voters” is no longer a sane response to the insanity of your political situation. Many Republican elected still aren’t getting this because they think they can make it work. They stare at Trump’s base-approval numbers, torn between fear and temptation.

To remind my Republican friends for the hundredth time, the Trump base isn’t your base. His supporters hate you as much as Trump hates you. Trump devotees don’t care about shrinking the size and scope of government. They don’t care about the Constitution. They’re not Republicans, except as a flag of convenience. If you haven’t noticed the theme from Fox to Rush and across the rest of the Trump-fanatic clickservative media isn’t “My God, this bill was political death for anyone who voted for it.” Instead, it was “Why won’t Republicans follow Donald Trump over the cliff? What good is a majority if it won’t destroy itself in a vote that 70 percent of the population hates?”

So, to my Republican elected friends, there are a lot of reasons that GOP Trumpism won’t work, but the biggest one is this: Donald Trump hates you. You are, at best, props and extras in “The Apprentice: 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.” No matter how many times you abase yourself before him, no matter how much you grovel, it will never be enough. The moment you do anything to preserve your own political fortunes, he will turn on you. The moment you deviate from constant service to his colossal ego, you’re going to end up on blast. He has no allies. Only fluffers and foes.

full article:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/when-will-republicans-learn-that-donald-trump-hates-them

In case you're wondering: a fluffer is defined as:

(noun) a person in the adult entertainment industry whose job it is to give male porno stars blowjobs in order to get them ready to perform.

Where's my fucking fluffer, goddammit!

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fluffer
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When Will Republicans Learn That Donald Trump Hates Them? - Rick Wilson (Original Post) DonViejo Jul 2017 OP
Trump is neither a democrat nor a republican. no_hypocrisy Jul 2017 #1
OH ... Fuck ... That ... Cosmocat Jul 2017 #4
trump is the VERY embodiment of the republican party. Merlot Jul 2017 #11
Democrats have to unite Republican & Trump brands, regardless of who he really is. They own him. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2017 #9
Exactly! No easy out for them. Amimnoch Jul 2017 #18
It does seem that way Johonny Jul 2017 #19
They're dispensable characters in his show dalton99a Jul 2017 #2
he'll offload his family in a hot second barbtries Jul 2017 #7
Well, not actively hating them. He just doesn't give a fuck about their well-being. DetlefK Jul 2017 #3
All this time and people STILL don't get republicans Cosmocat Jul 2017 #6
LOL! TheOther95Percent Jul 2017 #5
Love this line NewJeffCT Jul 2017 #8
Truth Renew Deal Jul 2017 #10
They don't CARE, as long as the big donors agenda is being forwarded.. annabanana Jul 2017 #12
I think it's a mutual hate circle... LakeArenal Jul 2017 #13
When they are fighting in the prison yard relayerbob Jul 2017 #14
His disdain for anybody but 'family'. mgardener Jul 2017 #15
With Trump's ego there is no room for liking anyone else but himself and his kids, assuming his kids stevenleser Jul 2017 #16
The Rumpublican Party owns him. Amimnoch Jul 2017 #17

no_hypocrisy

(45,991 posts)
1. Trump is neither a democrat nor a republican.
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 08:27 AM
Jul 2017

He is an opportunist.

He has no political bearing whatsoever.

Cosmocat

(14,557 posts)
4. OH ... Fuck ... That ...
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 08:36 AM
Jul 2017

He is the VERY embodiment of the republican party.

There is a reason he won the nomination with more votes than anyone R in history during the primary, a reason most of the Rs in congress gleefully bend a knee to him.

He IS what they have been winking and whistling at for decades now.

Wilson is, as most R pundits, is being disingenuous. Trying to keep the sainted GOP up on its pedestal, but putting the GOP on that pedestal is how we got 45.

They always sing this song when they get the power they do desparately fight for - disown the disaster.

See, W was not a REAL conservative.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,922 posts)
9. Democrats have to unite Republican & Trump brands, regardless of who he really is. They own him.
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 09:03 AM
Jul 2017

They have to pay in 2018 and 2020 and beyond for endorsing him. They chose him, over 16 of their best, to represent the RepubliCON party. (They have a shallow team.)

Plus McCONnell is deep into Trump-Russia (denied Merrick Garland vote, blocked telling state election commissions about the hacks, etc.).

Johonny

(20,782 posts)
19. It does seem that way
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 11:12 AM
Jul 2017

He doesn't really even seem to be into politics more than at the level of listening to whatever FOX news tells him.

barbtries

(28,752 posts)
7. he'll offload his family in a hot second
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 08:55 AM
Jul 2017

if it benefits him. he OWES putin, which is why putin OWNS him

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
3. Well, not actively hating them. He just doesn't give a fuck about their well-being.
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 08:33 AM
Jul 2017

He forces the House to take a healthcare-vote they don't want to take.

He's trying to bully the Senate into passing a healthcare-bill, ANY healthcare-bill, and he doesn't care what's even in it.

He keeps lying and Spicey then has to lie and cover for his lies.

McMaster tries to help Trump by lying and Trump throws him under the bus by telling the truth.



Obamacare, the wall, jobs... None of this matters to Trump. He doesn't care WHAT policies his administration passes, just as long as he can claim them as his personal victories.

Does it make the GOP look bad? He doesn't care.

Will the GOP take a beating in 2018? He doesn't care.



I have said it so many times, and I will say it again: If I were Paul Ryan, I would be mortally afraid how easy it was for an outsider like Trump to just hijack the republican base and rile them up against the republican establishment.

Cosmocat

(14,557 posts)
6. All this time and people STILL don't get republicans
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 08:41 AM
Jul 2017

You think Ryan is a victim, you think he was "forced" to take a vote?

Lawrence O'Donnell played a bit with him on air two days ago, pathetically pleading for the the senate to "just pass something, so we can get it worked out ..."

Hell, he, McConnell and most of the Rs in congress want to destroy our health care and SS so desperately they can't hide their excitement.

You are right about 45, but the Rs are not victims or dupes here. Sure, the would rather have had someone like Cruz who was not 24-7 chaos and was smooth and said things in their sly little wink and nod ways, but they are 100% behind 45 because he is sick enough to enable what THEY WANT.

TheOther95Percent

(1,035 posts)
5. LOL!
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 08:37 AM
Jul 2017

Some on this board may have to refer to their republican senator this way, Sen. Jeff Flake (Fluffer-AZ).

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
8. Love this line
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 09:01 AM
Jul 2017
He has no allies. Only fluffers and foes.

A lot of GOP pundits hate Trump - hopefully, the message will seep through to Congress one of these days.

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
12. They don't CARE, as long as the big donors agenda is being forwarded..
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 09:47 AM
Jul 2017

Massive deregulation? check.
Weakening of legal oversight agencies? check.

The Kochs, and other dirty energy folk; The prison profit centers, big agra, big pharma.. They don't give a rats ass about America. Never have, never will.

LakeArenal

(28,785 posts)
13. I think it's a mutual hate circle...
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 09:56 AM
Jul 2017

Rupunks have spewed hate, for so long themselves. They are all opportunists. They are liars and crooks themselves.. They recognize each other.

relayerbob

(6,531 posts)
14. When they are fighting in the prison yard
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 10:03 AM
Jul 2017

... and he's flailing his tiny hands and whining like a little child

mgardener

(1,808 posts)
15. His disdain for anybody but 'family'.
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 10:23 AM
Jul 2017

Has been on display for over 40 years.
I do use the words ignorant and stupid when talking about people who blindly support him without question.
The bottom line?
What is good for Trump, is good for Trump. What else matters?

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
16. With Trump's ego there is no room for liking anyone else but himself and his kids, assuming his kids
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 10:59 AM
Jul 2017

obey him and don't disappoint him. If they don't, I am sure they will be trashed too.

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
17. The Rumpublican Party owns him.
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 11:04 AM
Jul 2017

They only have 2 choices now.. own him, or leave the party.

He didn't run as an independent, he ran as a Republican.
He won their primary.
He won the electoral college as their candidate of choice.

I will never accept anything less than him being the face of their party.

I know the author of the article means well in pointing out that he isn't the embodiment of their party platform or morals, but I will always speak out against anyone on our side that tries to give them an "out".. even if it isn't their goal to do so.

Don't give them deniability.. make them own it. If it sucks to own it THEY need to make the change.

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