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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 01:02 PM Jul 2017

Sanders Keeping Door Open On 2020

BY AMIE PARNES - 07/23/17 06:00 AM EDT

Bernie Sanders, who battled Hillary Clinton in the 2016 Democratic primary and created a revolutionary movement among millennials, is having discussions about running for president again.

“Yes, is the answer,” said one Sanders associate who helped with the senator’s previous bid, in response to a question about whether the Independent senator from Vermont had begun to think about another run.

“He thinks he's earned the right to run again and he believes if he would have been the [Democratic] candidate he would have won against Trump.” The source also suggested that Sanders is making his plans with other candidates in mind.

“The last thing he's going to do is step aside and let Joe Biden take it,” the Sanders associate said.

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http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/343317-sanders-keeping-door-open-on-2020

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Sanders Keeping Door Open On 2020 (Original Post) Purveyor Jul 2017 OP
hopefully the democratic party won't make the same mistake twice and allow him to run as a dem. drray23 Jul 2017 #1
He runs in the Democratic Primary in Vermont. NCTraveler Jul 2017 #15
Wait! Have the 2020 primaries already begun? MineralMan Jul 2017 #2
Is it his turn? ismnotwasm Jul 2017 #3
LOL! MineralMan Jul 2017 #7
I hope you feal the same with all unnamed , no matter the story Kathy M Jul 2017 #32
Oh no, he's being ANOINTED!!!1!1!1! Maven Jul 2017 #29
Ugh no. I don't think it's right to allow people to join temporarily. bettyellen Jul 2017 #4
And then we have more turmoil and division. If he cares about this country, he should not run. Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #13
I agree. the division is bad for Dems. bettyellen Jul 2017 #20
Oh please no. Just no. n/t moonscape Jul 2017 #5
Huh... Mike Nelson Jul 2017 #6
ABSOLUTELY NOT! Chasstev365 Jul 2017 #8
Leaving the door open lets flies and mosquitoes in. MineralMan Jul 2017 #9
I predict that would end badly again. MrsCoffee Jul 2017 #10
I could really get behind Al Franken. MBS Jul 2017 #37
Is he going to join the Party right before and then drop out right after, again? NightWatcher Jul 2017 #11
Agree 1000% MBS Jul 2017 #16
Yes, I hate when autocorrect and predictive text make little changes that mean a lot. NightWatcher Jul 2017 #23
Agree with this, too. MBS Jul 2017 #35
That is just great. He is not a Democrat so unless he wants to play spoiler Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #12
Folks are reading too much into this. geek tragedy Jul 2017 #14
That makes sense to me too. I don't think he actually wants to run. That's exhausting, and he'll be JCanete Jul 2017 #24
Exactly. As long is the "door is open", press will give him attention. emulatorloo Jul 2017 #30
No no no Watchfoxheadexplodes Jul 2017 #17
Maybe he hopes to pardon Jill Stein. nt DURHAM D Jul 2017 #18
Someone under age 60 please. Fifty even better OKNancy Jul 2017 #19
Love that graphic, Nance. bettyellen Jul 2017 #21
Agree completely Lebam in LA Jul 2017 #44
I think another HRC vs Bernie primary might be interesting. aikoaiko Jul 2017 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author lunamagica Jul 2017 #40
I knew it!I've been saying it all along. So, is he going to release his taxes? lunamagica Jul 2017 #25
NOPE. nt Maven Jul 2017 #26
he is too old... chillfactor Jul 2017 #27
Sanders as the nominee in 2016... MarianJack Jul 2017 #28
If he actually decides to run... Trial_By_Fire Jul 2017 #31
+1........ Kathy M Jul 2017 #33
If he decides to run... Maven Jul 2017 #42
I love Bernie, but we need some younger blood. Vinca Jul 2017 #34
The most popular politician in the country PDittie Jul 2017 #36
Just have a happy retirement already. A new generation of Democrats livetohike Jul 2017 #38
Bernie could win this time Not Ruth Jul 2017 #39
I'll support anyone but Sanders in the primaries lunamagica Jul 2017 #41
Won't he be 79 then? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2017 #43
He can quiet a lot of critics by running as a Dem in '18 Blue_Tires Jul 2017 #45

drray23

(7,627 posts)
1. hopefully the democratic party won't make the same mistake twice and allow him to run as a dem.
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 01:05 PM
Jul 2017

If he wants to run, fine, he can run as an independent like he does as a senator.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
15. He runs in the Democratic Primary in Vermont.
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 01:23 PM
Jul 2017

He turns down the nomination after winning and runs in the general as an independent.

MineralMan

(146,281 posts)
2. Wait! Have the 2020 primaries already begun?
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 01:07 PM
Jul 2017

Sheesh, and already trashing Joe Biden, too. Who was that "Sanders associate?" Another unnamed source, I guess. Too many of those around, running their mouths, I think.

MineralMan

(146,281 posts)
7. LOL!
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 01:09 PM
Jul 2017

The unnamed source in that story seems to think so, I guess.

I grow weary of unnamed "associates," frankly. Let them speak openly and own what they say, dammit!

Maven

(10,533 posts)
29. Oh no, he's being ANOINTED!!!1!1!1!
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 01:46 PM
Jul 2017

What's that you say? He has a penis? Oh well why didn't you say so He's totally earned it.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
4. Ugh no. I don't think it's right to allow people to join temporarily.
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 01:08 PM
Jul 2017

It's probably better to let him and lose the primary but not looking forward to it. I feel like he's burned too many bridges.

Mike Nelson

(9,949 posts)
6. Huh...
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 01:08 PM
Jul 2017

...last thing he's going to do is step aside and let Joe Biden take it."

I don't even think either could win the nomination, let alone the general! Plus, didn't Sanders leave the Democratic Party? He would be running as a third party candidate, right? I'm confused...

MineralMan

(146,281 posts)
9. Leaving the door open lets flies and mosquitoes in.
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 01:15 PM
Jul 2017

As my father always used to say in the winter, too, "What are you trying to do, heat the lawn?"

MrsCoffee

(5,801 posts)
10. I predict that would end badly again.
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 01:17 PM
Jul 2017

I don't think the party could handle that divide again. Joining the party only when it suits him is definitely going to become an issue. It doesn't really inspire confidence.

I really hope Kamala Harris runs. Or even Al Franken. Those are some really smart people that most of us could get behind.

MBS

(9,688 posts)
37. I could really get behind Al Franken.
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 02:04 PM
Jul 2017

Plus he "speaks Midwestern," and has a common touch, which is something I think we really need.
Kamala Harris is smart as a whip, but I personally don't think she is ready, and I can so easily see her being caricatured as a "Hollywood left-coast latte liberal," even knowing the genuine challenges she's had in getting to where she is today.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
11. Is he going to join the Party right before and then drop out right after, again?
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 01:17 PM
Jul 2017

He's not a DEMOCRAT and the more he talks the more devisive he becomes, and I voted for him in the primaries.

Join the Party and work with and for it, or go away.

Plus, nothing says Party of the Future like a candidate in his late 70's who only joins the Party the week before the primary and then drops out the day after he loses. The Party and the DNC have their faults but this divisiveness isn't helping build our Party for 2018 and 2020. He's become a cult of personality.

An hour after this thread dies out, I'm trashing any thread with "Bernie" in it. It's not helping. Is he doing his part of the job that Jill Stein did in 2016? Every little bit that ultimately helps trump, hurts us. I'm not calling him a colluder but I haven't totally ruled it out. Unattainable populism from the Left is just as bad as the unattainable populism from the Right that trump used to get a fair percentage of his votes.

MBS

(9,688 posts)
16. Agree 1000%
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 01:23 PM
Jul 2017

(By the way, by "decisive," did you mean "divisive?&quot )

In advocating for a big-tent party, EJ Dionne likes to say, "You need two wings to fly." Which is true IF those wings are both working together to move as one movement (or bird).

Already, I've seen articles asking Bernie to form a new "labor party." Really upsetting. Just NO. No 3rd party @#$$. No, "I won't vote at all, or I won't vote for X unless he/she passes my purity test" @#$@

Come on, Dems, get a grip. Get your act together for once! We need to focus on getting people to vote and we need every single vote to win in 2018 and 2020 !

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
23. Yes, I hate when autocorrect and predictive text make little changes that mean a lot.
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 01:30 PM
Jul 2017

To expand on your point, who benefits from a 3rd party? trump, that's who. Who benefited from the Green party? trump that's who.

Fake Progressives are seeking to give trump and his type another election. Another? but Nightwatcher does that mean that you think people like the Bernie Bros and Stein fans cost us this election? Hell yes.

MBS

(9,688 posts)
35. Agree with this, too.
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 01:58 PM
Jul 2017

BTW, I call autocorrect "auto typo." It's a more accurate descriptor of its actions.

Demsrule86

(68,539 posts)
12. That is just great. He is not a Democrat so unless he wants to play spoiler
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 01:19 PM
Jul 2017

like Nader, I see no path for an independent rung for the White House.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
14. Folks are reading too much into this.
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 01:21 PM
Jul 2017

Being a potential candidate maximizes his ability to influence debate and policy.

 

JCanete

(5,272 posts)
24. That makes sense to me too. I don't think he actually wants to run. That's exhausting, and he'll be
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 01:39 PM
Jul 2017

near 80.

Lebam in LA

(1,344 posts)
44. Agree completely
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 03:07 PM
Jul 2017

Really tired of old white men. This old white woman wants new blood with fresh ideas

aikoaiko

(34,165 posts)
22. I think another HRC vs Bernie primary might be interesting.
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 01:30 PM
Jul 2017


I think it would be a different primary.

Response to aikoaiko (Reply #22)

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
25. I knew it!I've been saying it all along. So, is he going to release his taxes?
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 01:41 PM
Jul 2017

He really doesn't want to disclose his taxes...why?

Those who kept insisting he wasn't going to run, well looks like you don't know him as well as you thought you did.

So he keeps bad-mouthing Democrats, and he is planning to run....hmmmm

chillfactor

(7,573 posts)
27. he is too old...
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 01:44 PM
Jul 2017

we need someone younger to step up to the plate and take charge of the DEMOCRATIC party.

MarianJack

(10,237 posts)
28. Sanders as the nominee in 2016...
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 01:45 PM
Jul 2017

...would have taken a coast to coast beating that would have made 1972 look like 1960. go the hell AWAY, Bernie!

PEACE!

 

Trial_By_Fire

(624 posts)
31. If he actually decides to run...
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 01:48 PM
Jul 2017

..and depending on who else runs, Sanders would be an excellent candidate...

We need a progressive/liberal/FDR-Dem person as our president. And Sanders fits that bill.

Maven

(10,533 posts)
42. If he decides to run...
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 02:49 PM
Jul 2017

I and many others will do what we should have done last time, which is actively work to make sure his little primary spoiler campaign goes nowhere.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,837 posts)
43. Won't he be 79 then?
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 02:49 PM
Jul 2017

Shit Trump's 71 and look how bad he's fucking things up. Not to sound ageist but I think for that reason you won't see an older person get the nomination next time around.

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