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Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
Mon Jul 24, 2017, 09:48 PM Jul 2017

If McCain is flying back - they've got the votes.

The ACA is going down tomorrow. No way does he risk flying back to DC to vote for something that'll die - unless he's a no and everyone knows McCain, when push comes to shove, will always side with the GOP.

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If McCain is flying back - they've got the votes. (Original Post) Drunken Irishman Jul 2017 OP
I feel HORRIBLE for all the poor people who will suffer and. DIE because of thisWy Gabi Hayes Jul 2017 #1
I don't feel horrible for the ones that voted trump JI7 Jul 2017 #3
You never know. Eko Jul 2017 #2
The fact it was the Republicans trying to get him to come back tells me otherwise. Drunken Irishman Jul 2017 #4
That makes no sense. Eko Jul 2017 #11
IF he was a no vote, they wouldn't be pushing him to come back and vote. Drunken Irishman Jul 2017 #13
If he was a no vote Eko Jul 2017 #15
McCain is a Republican and will die a Republican dalton99a Jul 2017 #9
Not a chance MoonRiver Jul 2017 #10
He got the Maverick title for a reason. Eko Jul 2017 #14
He should honor his friend Edward Kennedy pandr32 Jul 2017 #5
yes he did, but McCain is no Kennedy. He never was, and the myth that he was some sort of "maverick still_one Jul 2017 #12
Gawd I hope not this time pandr32 Jul 2017 #17
I hope you are right and I am wrong still_one Jul 2017 #19
I agree, and I am sure he loves this attention. When 47% of the populace decided not to vote, they still_one Jul 2017 #6
WHOAH... this is just the procedural vote to move forward on discussion of hlthe2b Jul 2017 #7
you may be right edhopper Jul 2017 #8
Maybe... The vote tomorrow would only to be to bring it to the floor though. Egnever Jul 2017 #16
Johm McCain, who has the best health care in the country Raven Jul 2017 #18
McCain will get a big tax cut too. Can't miss that vote! L. Coyote Jul 2017 #20
 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
1. I feel HORRIBLE for all the poor people who will suffer and. DIE because of thisWy
Mon Jul 24, 2017, 09:54 PM
Jul 2017

Wyden is begging on Rachael show for Americans to call their senators

Says it's crucial

He's outraged, talking about the punitive Medicaid cuts, and how certain senators are going to have trouble explaining this


That said, they are signing their political death warrant, aren't they?

Can't help thinking some dems are secretly very happy about this

Could help us take the senate

But, at what human cost?

Eko

(7,281 posts)
15. If he was a no vote
Mon Jul 24, 2017, 10:08 PM
Jul 2017

he wouldn't tell them he was necessarily. We are talking about politicians,,,, either way its just speculation, maybe we will see tomorrow, maybe not.

Eko

(7,281 posts)
14. He got the Maverick title for a reason.
Mon Jul 24, 2017, 10:06 PM
Jul 2017

"And it’s not just that McCain is voting against his party on unimportant issues: McCain has been more willing to vote against the more conservative position on key votes in the past 20 years. McCain voted against the Bush tax cuts, for reducing greenhouse emissions and for funding Obama’s executive action providing federal benefits to immigrants who are in the country illegally, in addition to arguing against torture. You can see that McCain’s transformation on key votes (again measured by the American Conservative Union’s scorecards) matches up with when he began to buck the GOP on party-line votes overall: Just before his first run for the presidency in 2000"
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/is-john-mccain-a-maverick/

pandr32

(11,579 posts)
5. He should honor his friend Edward Kennedy
Mon Jul 24, 2017, 09:56 PM
Jul 2017

Kennedy spent the last of his life with the same brain cancer making sure the ACA passed. They worked together for years.

still_one

(92,136 posts)
12. yes he did, but McCain is no Kennedy. He never was, and the myth that he was some sort of "maverick
Mon Jul 24, 2017, 10:02 PM
Jul 2017

was created by the media

He has always voted hardline republican, and no doubt this will just be another opportunity for the angry old man to take it out on the most vulnerable in our society

pandr32

(11,579 posts)
17. Gawd I hope not this time
Mon Jul 24, 2017, 10:49 PM
Jul 2017

Maybe he has thought over how important having affordable care and no caps or restrictions are for Americans now that he has an aggressive cancer. Sometimes facing death gives a clear perspective...the important stuff. Then again, maybe he has lost whatever was left of his conscience ages ago.
Come on McCain...be a Maverick at last...for real. Honor Kennedy and our country.

still_one

(92,136 posts)
6. I agree, and I am sure he loves this attention. When 47% of the populace decided not to vote, they
Mon Jul 24, 2017, 09:58 PM
Jul 2017

are responsible for this. Every Democrat running for Senate in those swing states, lost to the incumbent, establishment, republican, and most of those Senators were progressive.

That made all the difference between who controls the Senate.

hlthe2b

(102,225 posts)
7. WHOAH... this is just the procedural vote to move forward on discussion of
Mon Jul 24, 2017, 09:58 PM
Jul 2017

whatever the hell they decide to try to advance. It is not THE vote on any given bill, so let's not jump the cliff.

Of course I don't want it to get THAT far, but frankly, McCain would come even if his vote was not as critical as it is because of the frothing primary opponent for Sen. Flake calling McCain out and suggesting he already resign (and of course let her be appointed to the seat).

Raven

(13,889 posts)
18. Johm McCain, who has the best health care in the country
Mon Jul 24, 2017, 10:55 PM
Jul 2017

and is in need of it now, is flying back to Washington to vote against giving decent health care to ordinary Americans? Really? I hope the SOB ruptures an artery on that gd plane.

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