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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI'm no fan of McCain, but I've seen him step up and do the right thing from time to time.
I have a strong feeling he will fly back and vote "NO" on this vote tomorrow. He knows right from wrong and shows his patriotism when necessary, but I don't think he likes any part of what this POTUS is doing to our country and will do his part in knocking him down...if he votes No, Graham will follow.
After all, McCain is probably jeopardizing what health he has to work with by flying. I've heard it isn't a good mix - flying and brain cancer. That may be an old wives' tale, but I sure wouldn't take the chance for this drip that sits in the Oval Office.
Stuart G
(38,414 posts)RhodeIslandOne
(5,042 posts)His legacy is one of two things....
Killing this stupid bill.......
.....or his hatred towards the man who beat him soundly.
ladym55
(2,577 posts)but what I'm reading suggests that he will do the opposite.
liberal from boston
(856 posts)Lawrence tonight on Senator McCain:
http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/watch/mccain-returning-to-senate-for-critical-health-care-vote-1008114755766
Thrill
(19,178 posts)BannonsLiver
(16,342 posts)He's coming back to rescue MCTurtle from further embarrassment.
Blaukraut
(5,693 posts)All he needs to do is stay put and not vote. That mofo is going to vote yes.
bearsfootball516
(6,374 posts)There's no reason for him to fly back just to vote no when he could do that exact thing by just staying put.
Justitia
(9,316 posts)Plus, he always votes "yes" on motions to proceed from what I've read.
Everyone is looking for a hero. In this case, I think they will be sorely disappointed.
50 Shades Of Blue
(9,954 posts)Le Gaucher
(1,547 posts)Sorry to let the air out of your balloon. But Mccain isn't going to vote against his party. He complained about scotus cloture .. And promptly voted the asshole gorsuch in.
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)Always keep that in mind regarding this administration.
Handicapping piece by piece is a waste of time.
Big picture
Nevernose
(13,081 posts)Straight to Washington so he can take away other people's access to cancer treatment, and he's doing it so his billionaire friends and family can have a billion-plus-one.
Fuck that guy.
BigmanPigman
(51,582 posts)The_Casual_Observer
(27,742 posts)There isn't any Santa Claus.
DURHAM D
(32,607 posts)Tammy Duckworth is a hero. McCain is a zero.
KentuckyWoman
(6,679 posts)I respect his military service to this country and the sacrifices he's made all his life afterward due to that time.
Beyond that, not so much. Not anymore. He was on one thread back when he hugged up WhistleAss trying to get a place at the trough. This after the GOP machine spread racist crap all over the south regarding McCain to cost him votes in the primaries.
He has sold out before. I expect him to this time.
Shrike47
(6,913 posts)I'd love to see McCain do something great for America but don't expect to. This is the man who agreed to Sarah Palin as a running mate.
BigDemVoter
(4,149 posts)I've watched him since the 1980s. I always found his claims of being a "maverick" to be ridiculous.
He likes to act like the big man around town, but he's not.
I FULLY expect him to vote to proceed with this atrocity. If he does, I'll be counting the hours until he, himself, is dead, as he will be responsible for the deaths of thousands.
Maybe he'll prove me wrong, but I certainly have NO faith that he'll suddenly decide to DO the right thing rather than mewl and prattle about it as he normally does.
Me.
(35,454 posts)one would hope he's had an epiphany about health care and isn't coming back with a "I've got mine, my Cadillac health care and that's that" attitude.
LuckyLib
(6,819 posts)and heard about the success of the ACA in getting access to medical care?
And had a change of heart?
Nah . . . won't happen.
Demsrule86
(68,539 posts)JenniferJuniper
(4,510 posts)bagelsforbreakfast
(1,427 posts)I don't think he's seen Mr. Smith Goes to Washington...
rufus dog
(8,419 posts)100 percent bullshit
No way in hell he votes no, NONE!
politicaljunkie41910
(3,335 posts)I also can't believe that John McCain and Lyndsay Graham are not bothered by how Trump uses the men and women of the Military as his prop whenever he needs to, while having avoided the draft with all those deferments himself. He also shows such disdain for the entire Intelligence Community while continuously threatening to use military force to prove how tough he is, though it wouldn't be his behind, or his child's behind, that is out there in harms way. I also think it has got to bother McCain that Trump has proven to be Putin's bitch and is willing to sell out this nation to keep whatever secret agreements and relationships he has with Putin and the Russians, secret?
If McCain came all the way back simply to cast a vote for a bad bill, I'd be very disappointed. At his age, he is cementing his legacy in stone. Is passing a bad health care bill that will gut Medicaid, and will leave more than 25 million people without health care coverage to be his Waterloo? Is that the hill McCain wants to stake his legacy to? I hope not, but we will know soon enough.
ecstatic
(32,673 posts)The same Trump who mocked his POW status. Yes, McCain was brave then, but he's a coward now.
SHRED
(28,136 posts)Only one reason he is going.
onecaliberal
(32,811 posts)Liberty Belle
(9,533 posts)to show courage and save millions of lives, now that he knows what's it like to have yours on the line and dependent on quality healthcare. If you know any Republicans who feel that way, it's important for them to contact him and say so, too. If he arrives in DC to millions of emails and phone messages, just maybe he'll think twice before casting his vote.
I agree that it's likely he will vote yes, if he's going to the trouble to fly back.
Demsrule86
(68,539 posts)Kablooie
(18,619 posts)Because there would be one less yes vote.
So if he's flying in, which is an ordeal in his state, it would have to be to vote yes.
awesomerwb1
(4,267 posts)Don't hold your breath though.
Ninsianna
(1,349 posts)He's been putting party first.
dalton99a
(81,426 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)ThoughtCriminal
(14,047 posts)I am nearly certain that he will do what he does time after time - follow the party line.
Occasionally he may SAY things that lead some to think he will do the right thing, but he rarely does.
Luciferous
(6,078 posts)dalton99a
(81,426 posts)still_one
(92,110 posts)still_one
(92,110 posts)spanone
(135,802 posts)fuck him
this is a dream post.
msongs
(67,381 posts)jiminvegas
(104 posts)Or love for their country. Then he put Palin on his ticket and took a chance that he would be elected then have to leave office, making Palin president. That wasn't courage, that was taking a longshot hail mary type desperate measure that could have put a moron one heart beat from the"nucular" codes.
He started looking more like a maverick when he became a never Trumper. But he follows along with everything drumpf wants. I have no faith that McCain will do the right thing regarding the health care vote.
Demsrule86
(68,539 posts)Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)No bigger hypocrite in congress
All talk
And what he did during the keating 5
Scandal should've cost him his
He really committed perjury, but iokiyaar
chimpymustgo
(12,774 posts)Please remind me when he's been a "maverick" for the people.
barbtries
(28,787 posts)my recollection is he caved on torture during the gw regime, but i'm getting old so maybe not.
Hekate
(90,616 posts)Hekate
(90,616 posts)Voltaire2
(12,977 posts)Demsrule86
(68,539 posts)Republican murderer. I hope he burns in hell.
Tom Rinaldo
(22,912 posts)If they weren't they would not push for him to be there. Graham will vote yes because he has his own "replace" amendment that he is pushing.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)I can only think of one plausible reason he'd be flying to DC.
Casprings
(347 posts)Don't you think they would ask him now he was going to vote and have the other votes before that?
OnDoutside
(19,949 posts)dalton99a
(81,426 posts)OnDoutside
(19,949 posts)nikibatts
(2,198 posts)DFW
(54,325 posts)McCain's idea of being a hero is flying in to support his commander in chief (that would be McTurtle, not Trump).
His real attitude in private will be, "no one came to help me while I was suffering as a POW. Why the hell should I help out anybody now?"
Don't forget--his version of patriotism is bombing civilians from a plane. That's about how much he'll be caring about the civilians he'd be bombing if he backs McTurtle up.
wryter2000
(46,025 posts)He could have done it from home. He's not going to be a no vote.
mcar
(42,287 posts)Always. I hope you are correct, but I fear you are not.
mvd
(65,169 posts)I know from experience in my own family how horrible this disease is. He is a fighter and if anyone can beat brain cancer, he can. But I held my tongue at first because I was losing respect for him, especially after the Palin choice. It would be really low to fly back and vote to repeal health care when others need the health care he is getting.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,311 posts)MiniMe
(21,714 posts)And he thinks the bill should be debated. Doubt he would vote for the bill itself in it's current form.
Iggo
(47,545 posts)That is all.
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)Trump basically called him a loser for getting captured in Vietnam. He also is probably not oblivious to the fact that Trump is dragging the GOP down, and I would be shocked if he were not outraged by what is being revealed about dealings with Russia.
salin
(48,955 posts)but I think he already signaled he is voting with the GOP.