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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat's going on with Wes Clark Jr.?
https://mobile.twitter.com/WesClarkjrHe seems to have had some kind of wacky religious experience. He's going on a tirade against Cenk Uygur/TYT?
yodermon
(6,143 posts)Baconator
(1,459 posts)Is he famous?
BootinUp
(47,138 posts)liberalnarb
(4,532 posts)That's kinda whackey
BootinUp
(47,138 posts)On their faith?
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)Yeah, I personally DO judge some people on their "faith."
Some "faiths" are bat-shit crazy.
Anyone who thinks a god is actually talking to him or her is nuts.
BootinUp
(47,138 posts)Focus on politics over criticizing religious beliefs. In this case you are criticizing a liberal who is free to choose his religious beliefs as r u.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)But magical thinking can lead to all kinds of bad reasoning.
BootinUp
(47,138 posts)political party that campaigns against major religions.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)You gonna take it up with the big man now?
LOL
JI7
(89,244 posts)liberalnarb
(4,532 posts)NobodyHere
(2,810 posts)Cenk has evolved to a "will neither confirm nor deny" stance on the Armenian Genocide
rockfordfile
(8,701 posts)I didn't think he was religious.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)I hate religion. Sorry/not sorry if that offends. Better yet, forgive me.
madokie
(51,076 posts)for all inhabitants if there were NO Religions
Most all wars are religious in nature
JI7
(89,244 posts)JDC
(10,125 posts)JI7
(89,244 posts)he is going after those who use God to defend their hateful fucked up bigoted views.
Foamfollower
(1,097 posts)He is an asshat whose opinion should never be considered by thinking Americans.
rockfordfile
(8,701 posts)Foamfollower
(1,097 posts)elleng
(130,861 posts)Try following something other than foam.
Foamfollower
(1,097 posts)Uygar harms everything about the left on a daily basis. Jettison his stupid ass. He's poison.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,229 posts)womanofthehills
(8,690 posts)Name calling is not attractive.
Quixote1818
(28,927 posts)Hopefully he will snap out of it.
pnwmom
(108,973 posts)Quixote1818
(28,927 posts)Ezior
(505 posts)tblue37
(65,290 posts)Wes Clark, Jr., but it is his son who was on TYT, and who was at Standing Rock.
pnwmom
(108,973 posts)tblue37
(65,290 posts)Don't think I want to read to find out whether they might think such.
BannonsLiver
(16,352 posts)pnwmom
(108,973 posts)Ilsa
(61,692 posts)I started following Wes Jr on Facebook back during Standing Rock.
I won't debate his religious beliefs or awakening or whatever. I am concerned about some statements he's made that sound very paranoid, like he might be having a mental break. The comment about having helicopters over his home spying on him or trying to intimidate him. It may be PTSD brought on by lack of sleep, other changes, etc. Then again, maybe it happened to discredit him.
On Cenk, etc: I'm trying to stay neutral. I don't watch or listen to TYT.
I hope a family member can talk him into getting help sorting through this.
Ilsa
(61,692 posts)We don't need a Constitutional Convention to undo Citizens United. We need a Constitutional Amendment. A Convention opens up the potential for the Koch roach brothers to destroy our rights. Cenk and his Wolf PAC want a convention.
Wes took his opposition to this too far, I think, accusing Cenk of being an Erdogan plant or something.
brooklynite
(94,489 posts)obamanut2012
(26,064 posts)Do not get the love for TYT among progressives. They are odious.
MrsCoffee
(5,801 posts)Also, wasn't he a Ronald Reagan supporter who is now on Russia's payroll? He has never seemed like a progressive kind of guy to me, yet thinks he can take over the Democratic Party. Thanks, but no thanks.
liberalnarb
(4,532 posts)MrsCoffee
(5,801 posts)He is definitely an ex-Republican who loved him some Ronald Reagan and is now on Russia's payroll (Russia Today is propaganda for Putin). And he teamed up with Bernie Sanders to "take over the Democratic Party".
Just curious what you disagree with in my post.
liberalnarb
(4,532 posts)Was on MSNBC, and he was making fun of republicans who compete during their debates over who worships Reagan more. When did he say he liked reagan?
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,500 posts)on Putin's payroll he's doing a lousy job then. Since every major story of the Orange Sphincter's ties to Russia that I've seen here has been covered by them. Now, he does employ some people who seem in denial about the Russian collusion. Their hatred of Hilary Clinton has reached cartoonish proportions. But to each his own and I've even heard him call them out on air.
obamanut2012
(26,064 posts)liberalnarb
(4,532 posts)He isn't a regular or a host.
obamanut2012
(26,064 posts)And, he has a rogue's gallery of racists and sexists on his payroll.
MrsCoffee
(5,801 posts)He is a P I G pig.
liberalnarb
(4,532 posts)Are you basing these accusations on recent statements?
Ilsa
(61,692 posts)isn't necessary to get rid of Citizens United. A CC may backfire if rightwingers take control and roll back our rights.
madokie
(51,076 posts)if by chance he'd have got the nomination way back then I'd have supported him 100%. I'm a yellow dog democratic party member after all.
tblue37
(65,290 posts)TexasBushwhacker
(20,165 posts)elleng
(130,861 posts)this concerns his son Wes Clark JR.
Raine1967
(11,589 posts)liberalnarb
(4,532 posts)BainsBane
(53,029 posts)Their goal is to keep Trump in power. Why shouldn't Clark be pissed off at them?
liberalnarb
(4,532 posts)I've recently learned he suffers from PTSD which could very well be connected.
BainsBane
(53,029 posts)Did he serve in the military?
liberalnarb
(4,532 posts)Ilsa
(61,692 posts)KeepItReal
(7,769 posts)Eom
BainsBane
(53,029 posts)on diverting votes from Democrats?
Why do you suppose they targeted Maxine Waters? She's been the most outspoken critic of Trump, and they had to try to take her down.
Didn't the Kremlin operation in 2016 teach you anything?
KeepItReal
(7,769 posts)Eom
womanofthehills
(8,690 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)dawg
(10,622 posts)That doesn't necessarily mean that he's delusional, but something has definitely shaken his cage.
I hope he feels better soon.
As for Cenk - that guy's an asshole. Even in his agitated state, Wes might have a point or two.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)I am a Deist. I don't think we got here by accident of nature. I don't follow the bible, but don't insist there wasn't a person named Jesus who was some type of divinity.
On Clark, I saw a lot of references to nature. I believe that we are part of the natural world and need to do what we can to protect it.