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What's going on with Wes Clark Jr.? (Original Post) liberalnarb Jul 2017 OP
Is that really him? No blue checkmark. N/t yodermon Jul 2017 #1
Who cares what Wesley Clark's kid thinks? Baconator Jul 2017 #59
Cent is whack. He's on the right track. Nt BootinUp Jul 2017 #2
What about the fact that he claims God has been speaking to him since 7/17? liberalnarb Jul 2017 #4
U feel the need to judge folks BootinUp Jul 2017 #5
I generally try to give people the benefit of the doubt, but... Adrahil Jul 2017 #33
Suggestion 4 u BootinUp Jul 2017 #64
Generally I try too... Adrahil Jul 2017 #68
Maybe u should look for another BootinUp Jul 2017 #69
Jesus told me back in March it was perfectly fine and in line with his writings snooper2 Jul 2017 #41
not as whackey as Cenk Denying the Armenian Genocide JI7 Jul 2017 #8
+1 uponit7771 Jul 2017 #13
I don't know anything about that, honestly. liberalnarb Jul 2017 #35
Well to be fair NobodyHere Jul 2017 #48
Yeah he sounds like a crazy right-wing conservative christan rockfordfile Jul 2017 #17
His feed reads like a cultist who's trapped in the compound. NightWatcher Jul 2017 #3
Personally I think that the world would be a better place madokie Jul 2017 #20
what's so unusual about a liberal like Clark going after a right winger like Cenk ? JI7 Jul 2017 #6
Wes Clark Jr has been a regular in TYT almost since the beginning JDC Jul 2017 #57
based on Clark Jr's postings his view of God is one that is about love and peace JI7 Jul 2017 #7
Cenk Uygar is an extremist who deserves nothing more than complete scorn Foamfollower Jul 2017 #9
That's not true rockfordfile Jul 2017 #16
It's VERY true. Foamfollower Jul 2017 #19
Not true at all. elleng Jul 2017 #51
Extremely true Foamfollower Jul 2017 #70
Thank You. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2017 #56
Actually, I like Cenk - been listening to him since his Air America days womanofthehills Jul 2017 #65
I wonder if he got on some bad drugs? Those tweets are not normal. Quixote1818 Jul 2017 #10
This long Facebook post seems to have many people very concerned about his mental health. pnwmom Jul 2017 #11
Interesting. Did he ever see the heat of battle? I wonder if he has PTSD? nt Quixote1818 Jul 2017 #12
He says he has PTSD (nt) Ezior Jul 2017 #18
I believe that is the general's son, not the general himself. Both are named tblue37 Jul 2017 #26
Yes, it's the son. pnwmom Jul 2017 #27
Most on this thread seem to think it is the general. nt tblue37 Jul 2017 #29
Oh NO! elleng Jul 2017 #52
I'm not seeing the problem with Clark going after Ctenk. BannonsLiver Jul 2017 #14
I don't like Cenk either, but Clark seems to have a bigger problem. n/t pnwmom Jul 2017 #15
I've been following some of this. Ilsa Jul 2017 #21
One issue I agree with Wes on: Ilsa Jul 2017 #22
Why is Wes Clark Jt. someone worth paying attention to? brooklynite Jul 2017 #23
If he is going against that genocide denying misogynist wingnut Cenk, good! obamanut2012 Jul 2017 #24
I agree. MrsCoffee Jul 2017 #30
I don't think so. liberalnarb Jul 2017 #39
You don't think what? MrsCoffee Jul 2017 #44
The only time I ever heard Cenk talk about Ronnie raygun liberalnarb Jul 2017 #50
Their network has Jack shit to do with RT. They are their own entity. If he was Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2017 #55
Yup, Cenk is payrolled by Russian propo obamanut2012 Jul 2017 #46
I know he's appeared on RT, liberalnarb Jul 2017 #49
Yeah to the Russian payroll part for sure obamanut2012 Jul 2017 #45
He had a very blatantly sexist show on a couple years ago and I couldn't stand him after that. MrsCoffee Jul 2017 #47
Cenk was a right winger in his early years, he's come around on most if not all issues. liberalnarb Jul 2017 #53
Cenk is wanting a constitutional convention, which Ilsa Jul 2017 #63
I never was a wes clark supporter madokie Jul 2017 #25
Again, I am pretty sure this is the general's son (who has the same name). nt tblue37 Jul 2017 #28
It is the son n/t TexasBushwhacker Jul 2017 #31
This is not about General Wesley Clark, elleng Jul 2017 #54
That is not General Clark. This is: Raine1967 Jul 2017 #32
No it's his son. liberalnarb Jul 2017 #34
The Young Turks are scum BainsBane Jul 2017 #36
It's deeper than that. He's seems to believe there's some Turkish Gov conspiracy to "silence" him. liberalnarb Jul 2017 #37
Do you know what caused his PTSD? BainsBane Jul 2017 #38
I'm not sure. It's hard to tell there so much info flying around surrounding this. liberalnarb Jul 2017 #40
Yes, he served in active war zones, I believe. nt Ilsa Jul 2017 #62
They keep Trump in power by criticizing him each and every day? KeepItReal Jul 2017 #58
How about spending a million dollars BainsBane Jul 2017 #60
Can you link to this targeting of Rep. Waters? I only see a GOP challenger. KeepItReal Jul 2017 #61
The young Turks are progressive dems who are working to get non politicians to run for office womanofthehills Jul 2017 #66
I didn't know there was such a person nt geek tragedy Jul 2017 #42
Wes sounds a little unhinged. dawg Jul 2017 #43
I don't know. Blue_true Jul 2017 #67
 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
33. I generally try to give people the benefit of the doubt, but...
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 09:55 AM
Jul 2017

Yeah, I personally DO judge some people on their "faith."

Some "faiths" are bat-shit crazy.

Anyone who thinks a god is actually talking to him or her is nuts.

BootinUp

(47,138 posts)
64. Suggestion 4 u
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 09:09 PM
Jul 2017

Focus on politics over criticizing religious beliefs. In this case you are criticizing a liberal who is free to choose his religious beliefs as r u.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
41. Jesus told me back in March it was perfectly fine and in line with his writings
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 01:23 PM
Jul 2017

You gonna take it up with the big man now?



LOL

 

NobodyHere

(2,810 posts)
48. Well to be fair
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 04:52 PM
Jul 2017

Cenk has evolved to a "will neither confirm nor deny" stance on the Armenian Genocide

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
3. His feed reads like a cultist who's trapped in the compound.
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 11:10 PM
Jul 2017

I hate religion. Sorry/not sorry if that offends. Better yet, forgive me.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
20. Personally I think that the world would be a better place
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 07:13 AM
Jul 2017

for all inhabitants if there were NO Religions

Most all wars are religious in nature

JI7

(89,244 posts)
7. based on Clark Jr's postings his view of God is one that is about love and peace
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 11:40 PM
Jul 2017

he is going after those who use God to defend their hateful fucked up bigoted views.


 

Foamfollower

(1,097 posts)
9. Cenk Uygar is an extremist who deserves nothing more than complete scorn
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 11:42 PM
Jul 2017

He is an asshat whose opinion should never be considered by thinking Americans.

 

Foamfollower

(1,097 posts)
70. Extremely true
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 12:44 AM
Jul 2017

Uygar harms everything about the left on a daily basis. Jettison his stupid ass. He's poison.

tblue37

(65,290 posts)
26. I believe that is the general's son, not the general himself. Both are named
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 08:16 AM
Jul 2017

Wes Clark, Jr., but it is his son who was on TYT, and who was at Standing Rock.

Ilsa

(61,692 posts)
21. I've been following some of this.
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 07:21 AM
Jul 2017

I started following Wes Jr on Facebook back during Standing Rock.

I won't debate his religious beliefs or awakening or whatever. I am concerned about some statements he's made that sound very paranoid, like he might be having a mental break. The comment about having helicopters over his home spying on him or trying to intimidate him. It may be PTSD brought on by lack of sleep, other changes, etc. Then again, maybe it happened to discredit him.

On Cenk, etc: I'm trying to stay neutral. I don't watch or listen to TYT.

I hope a family member can talk him into getting help sorting through this.

Ilsa

(61,692 posts)
22. One issue I agree with Wes on:
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 07:28 AM
Jul 2017

We don't need a Constitutional Convention to undo Citizens United. We need a Constitutional Amendment. A Convention opens up the potential for the Koch roach brothers to destroy our rights. Cenk and his Wolf PAC want a convention.

Wes took his opposition to this too far, I think, accusing Cenk of being an Erdogan plant or something.

obamanut2012

(26,064 posts)
24. If he is going against that genocide denying misogynist wingnut Cenk, good!
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 07:51 AM
Jul 2017

Do not get the love for TYT among progressives. They are odious.

MrsCoffee

(5,801 posts)
30. I agree.
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 08:29 AM
Jul 2017

Also, wasn't he a Ronald Reagan supporter who is now on Russia's payroll? He has never seemed like a progressive kind of guy to me, yet thinks he can take over the Democratic Party. Thanks, but no thanks.

MrsCoffee

(5,801 posts)
44. You don't think what?
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 03:41 PM
Jul 2017

He is definitely an ex-Republican who loved him some Ronald Reagan and is now on Russia's payroll (Russia Today is propaganda for Putin). And he teamed up with Bernie Sanders to "take over the Democratic Party".

Just curious what you disagree with in my post.

 

liberalnarb

(4,532 posts)
50. The only time I ever heard Cenk talk about Ronnie raygun
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 06:32 PM
Jul 2017

Was on MSNBC, and he was making fun of republicans who compete during their debates over who worships Reagan more. When did he say he liked reagan?

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,500 posts)
55. Their network has Jack shit to do with RT. They are their own entity. If he was
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 06:38 PM
Jul 2017

on Putin's payroll he's doing a lousy job then. Since every major story of the Orange Sphincter's ties to Russia that I've seen here has been covered by them. Now, he does employ some people who seem in denial about the Russian collusion. Their hatred of Hilary Clinton has reached cartoonish proportions. But to each his own and I've even heard him call them out on air.

obamanut2012

(26,064 posts)
45. Yeah to the Russian payroll part for sure
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 03:42 PM
Jul 2017

And, he has a rogue's gallery of racists and sexists on his payroll.

MrsCoffee

(5,801 posts)
47. He had a very blatantly sexist show on a couple years ago and I couldn't stand him after that.
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 03:44 PM
Jul 2017

He is a P I G pig.

 

liberalnarb

(4,532 posts)
53. Cenk was a right winger in his early years, he's come around on most if not all issues.
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 06:36 PM
Jul 2017

Are you basing these accusations on recent statements?

Ilsa

(61,692 posts)
63. Cenk is wanting a constitutional convention, which
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 07:18 PM
Jul 2017

isn't necessary to get rid of Citizens United. A CC may backfire if rightwingers take control and roll back our rights.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
25. I never was a wes clark supporter
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 08:01 AM
Jul 2017

if by chance he'd have got the nomination way back then I'd have supported him 100%. I'm a yellow dog democratic party member after all.

BainsBane

(53,029 posts)
36. The Young Turks are scum
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 01:13 PM
Jul 2017

Their goal is to keep Trump in power. Why shouldn't Clark be pissed off at them?

 

liberalnarb

(4,532 posts)
37. It's deeper than that. He's seems to believe there's some Turkish Gov conspiracy to "silence" him.
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 01:15 PM
Jul 2017

I've recently learned he suffers from PTSD which could very well be connected.

BainsBane

(53,029 posts)
60. How about spending a million dollars
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 06:51 PM
Jul 2017

on diverting votes from Democrats?

Why do you suppose they targeted Maxine Waters? She's been the most outspoken critic of Trump, and they had to try to take her down.

Didn't the Kremlin operation in 2016 teach you anything?

dawg

(10,622 posts)
43. Wes sounds a little unhinged.
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 03:09 PM
Jul 2017

That doesn't necessarily mean that he's delusional, but something has definitely shaken his cage.

I hope he feels better soon.

As for Cenk - that guy's an asshole. Even in his agitated state, Wes might have a point or two.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
67. I don't know.
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 09:34 PM
Jul 2017

I am a Deist. I don't think we got here by accident of nature. I don't follow the bible, but don't insist there wasn't a person named Jesus who was some type of divinity.

On Clark, I saw a lot of references to nature. I believe that we are part of the natural world and need to do what we can to protect it.

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