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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums'WE F*CKING TOLD YOU': Internet hammers Caitlyn Jenner for being shocked by Trump's trans betrayal
BRAD REED
26 JUL 2017 AT 14:53 ET
Transgender activist Caitlyn Jenner, who has outraged many in the LGBT community for her support for President Donald Trump, expressed shock and indignation on Wednesday after the president announced that he opposed allowing transgender people to serve in the military.
There are 15,000 patriotic transgender Americans in the US military fighting for all of us, Jenner wrote on Twitter. What happened to your promise to fight for them?
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The responses to Jenner were fiercely negative, as many asked her how she could possibly be shocked that the president would throw the trans community under the bus given his past flip-flops on several key issues.
A sample of the top reactions to Jenner follow below.
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http://www.rawstory.com/2017/07/we-fcking-told-you-internet-hammers-caitlyn-jenner-for-being-shocked-by-trumps-trans-betrayal/
Bleacher Creature
(11,256 posts)Pachamama
(16,886 posts)Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)fiscally conservative" fuckers most of all. it's 100% about them and to hell with the rest of the world.
Bleacher Creature
(11,256 posts)When I was a kid and before I could vote - maybe around 14 or 15 - I thought it was clever to describe myself with the "liberal on social issues/conservative on fiscal issues" label.
Then I grew the hell up and realized that being open-minded on social issues meant that you needed to take care of all of those who need our help - whether it means supporting their civil rights or providing them with funds and services in times of need. I also recognized that government funding of social services often has a stimulative effect on the economy, depending on certain conditions.
Today, seeing adults peddling that garbage burns me up to no end.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)Ayn Rand fans as teens, but grew out of it, and those who stayed stuck in Randian fantasy land.
As Paul Krugman supposedly said,
There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year olds life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.
iamateacher
(1,089 posts)Sending to my husband and son. Thanks!
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)From this Krugman NYTimes bit.
He doesn't name Rogers, but links to this blog post of his, which included that clever quote.
Bleacher Creature
(11,256 posts)I've heard it a bunch of times, and it never gets old. Krugman's takedowns of Paul Ryan (who is often the reason for him pulling out that quote) are all pretty epic.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)Great quote, I have an ex-coworker who's still a Randian, and he's in his 60s. Never grew up.
I remember thinking Atlas Shrugged and especially The Fountainhead were really, really cool. But I was fourteen.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)TexasBushwhacker
(20,165 posts)1. Spend far too much on our military.
2. Spend far too much on farm subsidies going to mega agribusinesses and subsidizing things that are BAD for us like corn to be made into sugar, wheat to be made into junk food and crops to feed livestock when we would be better off eating more fruits and vegetables.
3. Giving "aid" to countries with the understanding that they will spend it buying weapons and aircraft from US manufacturers. I'm tired of paying for the fucking MIC, while Americans go without food, healthcare and decent educations.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)The things worth conserving in this world don't interest them. And yeah, they are only "conservative" on spending when the spending doesn't benefit individual money grubbers or the MIC.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,165 posts)elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)Also wondering why General Electric has a -11% tax rate ... Yes our federal tax payments actually contribute to giving them 11% of their profits. And things like that... You know, obvious bullshit stuff!
TexasBushwhacker
(20,165 posts)The thing is, if trickle down economics actually WORKED, I'd say go for it. But it doesn't!
Mosby
(16,297 posts)It should be a hell of a lot higher.
http://www.taxjusticeblog.org/archive/2016/04/just_plain_wrong_ge_and_verizo.php#.WXo1cotlBxs
hatrack
(59,583 posts)Sometimes, you really can say a lot in 140 characters . . .
C_U_L8R
(44,996 posts)"First, they came for the trans, then they..."
The mantra of many hardcore rethugs is "anyone BUT a Democrat". They do not care what he does, he's not Hillary and that is all that matters.
dalton99a
(81,426 posts)mercuryblues
(14,526 posts)other than take a glam photo shoot when she came out?
All these assholes having the come to Jesus moment, looking for sympathy. Fuck them, just fuck 'em. They were told, they were warned. They knew what kind of man trump was. They heard the * grabbing, heard his racism. Even the names he floated for a supreme court justice were rabid anti gays, repeal the ACA and so on. They chose to ignore all that and vote for him. And now they are shocked, shocked that trump is a homophobe, racist misogynist and governs that way.
is it! People will look the other way as long as they get a tax cut.
wellst0nev0ter
(7,509 posts)of people telling me to be civil and sympathetic to tЯump's monkey voters. Only when they get a complete change of heart and stop being the fucking subhumans that they are, then I'll consider bringing them into the fold, but no, they need to suffer first.
elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)Can't transition from that, obvs.
She's also of an age to have been drafted to Vietnam. Wonder why she didn't serve.
cagefreesoylentgreen
(838 posts)I appreciate that Caitlyn Jenner showed it's never too late in life to live as one's true self. That said, she's a terrible fucking human being.
uponit7771
(90,329 posts)This NOT just Jenner ... this belongs to a lot of people.
Caliman73
(11,728 posts)They typically help us to keep things simple, but they are often wrong and can lead us into bad situations if we do not keep them in check.
The problem with Jenner is that she has a very large platform, especially as she has provided cover for the administration when it comes to LGBT issues. Jenner has used her celebrity to defend the administration despite the regular and consistent signs that Trump does not give one wit of care about anything but himself. That is why the backlash is directed at her.
uponit7771
(90,329 posts)behavior to break cognitive bias in humans.
Or at least get people to ask some real questions relative to their situation, not just doubt and throw useless shade at them.
Caliman73
(11,728 posts)CBT is focused on helping people to identify cognitive distortions that lead them to behave in maladaptive ways. It can be effective in the short term and focuses on training the person to be a "self scientist" by means of teaching reality testing and other techniques that disrupt emotional and thought processes that may be problematic.
Buns_of_Fire
(17,173 posts)Which, I guess, it did. It transformed him from a bigmouthed, crooked, crass, vulgar real estate salesman into a bigmouthed, crooked, crass, vulgar real estate salesman in command of the world's most powerful military.
uponit7771
(90,329 posts)... the stupid ass'd M$M.
I know humans will keep going over and over an issue subconsciously if they don't have an answer and the M$M might have supplied this quick ready answer to people who hated Clinton as an excuse to vote for Red Don.
Interesting
.99center
(1,237 posts)Why the hell isn't anyone in the media questioning our VP and the rest of Trumps NSC about the ban?
Sarah Huckabee Sanders: "The president has expressed concerns since this Obama policy came into effect," Sanders said. "But he's also voiced that this is a very expensive and disruptive policy, and based on consultation that he's had with his national security team, came to the conclusion that it erodes military readiness and unit cohesion made the decision based on that."
BigDemVoter
(4,149 posts)Just fuck her. . . . Stupid, stupid, stupid asshole. . . and a HOMOPHOBIC asshole at that. FUCK HER.
wellst0nev0ter
(7,509 posts)I still think she's a fucking traitor.
IronLionZion
(45,409 posts)She is pretending to be shocked but she knew the whole time. Everyone knew it was coming.
DinahMoeHum
(21,783 posts)Caitlyn, sweetie, you get what you pay for (middle finger raised)
Nevernose
(13,081 posts)Much like gender, it's certainly NOT binary. Not an either/or thing. You can be privileged in some respects, but not others. OJ Simpson comes to mind, as do Susan Sarandon and Cornel West.
At the end of the day, it's mostly about money. Fuck Caitlyn Jenner and the mattress full of cash she sleeps soundly on.
Paladin
(28,246 posts)Shoulder your part of the trump disaster, and don't let us ever hear of you again.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)But that eighteenth is coming.
Sen. Walter Sobchak
(8,692 posts)and the rest of the Kardashian freaks too, stop feeding into a reality show publicity stunt.