Giving McCain the credit for defeating this repeal when female Senators Murkowski & Collins

[ehrnst]

Link to tweet

were early NO's is EVERY WORK MEETING EVER.

[yardwork]

1. I've been thinking the same thing.

[Alpeduez21]

2. DING! DING! DING!

Yeah, and McCain is a hero for flying in to vote after cancer diagnosis. A vote that threatened the very fabric of the ACA, by the way.
Meanwhile, Senator Hirono, a female senator from Hawaii, receives crickets for flying in after surgery with stage 4 to SAVE the ACA.

[barbtries]

3. not to mention the people

yes mccain voted no when it was really important - but i still think he would have voted yes if the people had not let him know in no uncertain terms that that vote would seal his place in history. he chose the right vote for himself as well as for the country and i just don't think the country was uppermost on his mind when he voted. i'm still over mccain obviously.

[pangaia]

6. He originally vote AGAINST the ACA back in 2010?

In a quick flip against Democrats...

So THANKS McCAIN !!!

[panader0]

31. I sent his office an e-mail saying that a yes vote would

be a legacy of cruelty.

[barbtries]

45. thank you

i visited his fb page and there were no positive responses to his vote to proceed. nearly every one reminded him that this is how he will be remembered. i think it got to him.

[ck4829]

4. We really shouldn't be giving *ANY* of them an iota of credit for anything

Until they come out against this paradigm of trivializing healthcare, treating it like some sort of horse race when lives are on the line, on top of this whole thing that we vote these people in, we send them our tax money, and then they turn around and are denying us the same healthcare and privileges they get; then none of them are heroes.

We are voting on who will lead the leisure class, not our representatives, that needs to stop.

[pangaia]

5. What does, "were early NOs is EVERY WORK MEETING EVER.," mean?

That the 2 women were always against it in meetings about it?

[ehrnst]

7. That women stated the idea first, but when a man says it, he gets the credit.

[pangaia]

15. Yeah, ain't that the truth... Thanks..

[Old Vet]

8. Well, To be fair, McCain voted against his party under alot of pressure.........

He pissed off a lot of republicans, But most important he went against this president along with two other brave senators. I will give credit where credit is due on this one vote. Thank you Sen. McCain.

[ehrnst]

10. Murkowski & Collins were characterized as needing to be attacked for not following orders.

"Snatch a knot in their ass" and "settle it Aaron Burr style".

Haven't heard anyone say that about McCain yet.

[Lucky Luciano]

13. There were plenty of deplorables cheering his cancer diagnosis. nt

[ehrnst]

14. The women got threats of violence from other male GOP lawmakers.

McCain hasn't, so far as I've heard.

https://www.bustle.com/p/male-gop-lawmakers-are-making-violent-threats-to-female-colleagues-over-health-care-72928

[Lucky Luciano]

20. I haven't heard threats of violence either - true. nt

[pangaia]

16. Nothing 'brave' about any of it, in my opinion.

What are they going to do to him?

It's the rest who are either cowards or inhuman monsters.. or both.

[dalton99a]

9. McCain did it for glory - he STILL wants to repeal and replace:

https://www.mccain.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/press-releases?ID=A952CCCA-66D2-4570-9D57-514561BF3D4D

Jul 28 2017
STATEMENT BY SENATOR JOHN McCAIN ON VOTING “NO” ON “SKINNY REPEAL”

Washington, D.C. ­– U.S. Senator John McCain (R-AZ) released the following statement today on voting “no” on the so-called “skinny repeal” of Obamacare:

“From the beginning, I have believed that Obamacare should be repealed and replaced with a solution that increases competition, lowers costs, and improves care for the American people. The so-called ‘skinny repeal’ amendment the Senate voted on today would not accomplish those goals. While the amendment would have repealed some of Obamacare’s most burdensome regulations, it offered no replacement to actually reform our health care system and deliver affordable, quality health care to our citizens. The Speaker's statement that the House would be ‘willing’ to go to conference does not ease my concern that this shell of a bill could be taken up and passed at any time.

“I’ve stated time and time again that one of the major failures of Obamacare was that it was rammed through Congress by Democrats on a strict-party line basis without a single Republican vote. We should not make the mistakes of the past that has led to Obamacare’s collapse, including in my home state of Arizona where premiums are skyrocketing and health care providers are fleeing the marketplace. We must now return to the correct way of legislating and send the bill back to committee, hold hearings, receive input from both sides of aisle, heed the recommendations of nation’s governors, and produce a bill that finally delivers affordable health care for the American people. We must do the hard work our citizens expect of us and deserve.”

However, I give him credit for doing the right thing last night - and for giving a big Fuck You to the crazy asshole.

He deserves thanks for that.

[pangaia]

17. "McCain did it for glory -" Exactly.

Exactly the reason he has dome so many things over so many years..


We just got lucky this time.

[dalton99a]

19. Yep - "Wait for the show":

http://mashable.com/2017/07/28/john-mccain-skinny-repeal-obamacare-health-act/

We did get lucky

[pangaia]

21. The guy is a self-centered little shit.

We got lucky this time, for whatever reason.

I wish him well. For myself.

[mdbl]

30. This time he had nothing to lose except respect

His time is limited, there really was no reason for him to prolong the drama like he did, but I will give him the glory for standing up to the repugs with no minds in the senate. Now it's time for the Dems to help fix the middle income squeeze happening in the health care market. Rates have to be lowered and stabilized for the group making incomes closer to 100,000 per year because it's no longer affordable. Even though it sounds like a high income, if you're paying a third of it just healthcare it's not such a great deal. This is the group supporting the repugs repeal effort. The market imbalances can't just keep shifting to that group. To me, single payer will be their way out of the situation. Regulate the profit motives in the insurance business. Free market insurance doesn't do better with high deductibles, paltry coverage and high rates all bundled into the same plan. Saying I want more choices so I can under-insure my family isn't a good choice even though some of them think it is.

[Tom Rinaldo]

11. They clearly deserve the lead credit on the Republican side

Some legitimate credit can be given to McCain as well in regards to the vote last night, but not to overshadow Senators Murkowski & Collins in any way. They pitched the entire game. McCain was the relief pitcher who got the final out.

[GreenEyedLefty]

12. TRUTH.

So much the truth.

[Sunlei]

18. all 3-Rs did the right thing. But they'll be back again & again. They'll let Insur.Corps fuckup our

insurance.

[Ilsa]

22. I thanked all three via email. nt

[MontanaMama]

42. Good idea.

I'll follow suit. It'll be hard to thank McCain but I'll do it.
And, I will tell him that my son had a tumor in his brain removed twice when he was 8 years old. That was before the ACA. I refinanced my house that year to pay my 12,000 deductible and 70,000 in copays because my insurance was crappy. I live in fear that the tumor will return and the ACA will be gone.

[Ilsa]

50. Just this:

[MontanaMama]

53. Thanks Ilsa.

Back at you.

[Gore1FL]

23. The Democrats were the ones who deserve the most credit. nt

[MontanaMama]

43. Yes n/t

[DFW]

24. Murkowski is hero number #1 here, not McCain

I've been through parts of Alaska. It's not all luxurious nature lodges and fancy restored building from 1898 for tourist viewing. We also took time to walk though the non-tourist parts of the towns we visited, and there are a LOT of run-down houses and rusting old vehicles in driveways. These people, for the most part, are anything BUT affluent. It's evident that any bill that enhanced health care coverage would have tended to help them. Murkowski voted to represent her people rather than do the bidding of McTurtle and his Big Insurance financiers.

Oh, wait. That's what a Senator's job is.

McCain made a big fancy speech, but it Murkowski voted the interests of the people of her state while under threat (McCain was not), and without the benefit of CNN and MSNBC cameras hanging on her every word. When the pressure of the White House and the Party leadership was brought to bear on her to ignore the interests of the people of her state, she said, "not with ME, you don't."

[Raster]

25. Agreed!

[still_one]

32. Everyone of those votes were needed to defeat the skinny bill, and after McCain's vote on the first

version of the bill right after his return, his vote on the skinny bill was a complete surprise.

That is why it is being highlighted, because it was unexpected.

If the media actually did their job though, they would have widely exposed the threats that the trump administration did to her by threatening retaliation to her state if she voted no on the bill.

I think all of them are going to be putting up with a lot of blowback from their republican counterparts in Congress

[DFW]

33. There will be some great expressions of gratitude as well, I expect--in private

Senators like Heller, Moore-Capito, Graham, etc., who were under huge pressure from McTurtle and the party to vote in a way that they might well have preferred not to, were let off the hook by McCain who has nothing more to lose, and therefore is not vulnerable to any threats McTurtle, INdustry, or Trump might toss his way.

[still_one]

36. Perhaps, but McCain was approached several times on the floor by both Pence and McConnell to

pressure him to change his vote to yes

There were people with a lot of power who wanted the skinny version of the bill to pass

I don't think we should look a gift horse in the mouth

We were lucky

[DFW]

51. There's nothing Pence had to hold over McCain at this point.

He's a newly re-elected 80 year old Senator with a terminal disease that will in all likelihood not permit him to finish out his term.

What's Pence going to threaten him with? Losing his parking space in the Senate garage?

[MontanaMama]

44. Absolutely.

The post above recommends thanking her...I'm calling her this morning.

[greatauntoftriplets]

26. Nailed it!

One of the best things about retirement is that I don't have to put up with that BS anymore.

[Motley13]

27. Thank you McCain, wonder how brave 45 thinks he is now

The other repug cowards didn't have to go against party since McCain fell on his sword for them, he wont be running again.
What happened with Capito WV, I thought she was against the repeal, must have folded.

[still_one]

28. I don't view it that way. Of course they needed all three votes, however, McCain's vote was a

complete surprise especially since he came back, not only did he vote to open the healthcare debate on the floor, but his first act was to vote for a version of that bill that he essentially said he could not support previously. After that, most people were entirely taken off guard when he voted against the skinny bill

[dlk]

29. It's the Same Sexism that Ignored Mazie Hirono's Courageous Efforts

It would be naive to underestimate the very deep river of sexism that runs through the U. S. How courageous and painful was it for Senator Hirono to make the trip to D. C., with stage 4 cancer no less, to vote against the health care repeal? Yet the sexist media largely ignored her efforts, while tripping all over themselves drooling on the male Senator McCain. The very real accomplishments of women are discounted and minimized at every turn. Nothing ever changes.

[still_one]

38. Senator Hirono is a hero, but no one should deceive themselves, this failed because 3 republicans

went against their party

I hope that Senator Hirono and Senator McCain are able to a treatment methodology that is effective for them.

I think Immunotherapy is going to eventually revolutionize things, but it is still very early in that process

[Lucky Luciano]

47. Hirono still deserves tremendous credit.

While her no vote was obvious, making a point to get to Capitol Hill after stage 4 cancer diagnosis and surgery is a big deal.

[Peach4u2]

34. Sen. Capito

She was with Collins and Murkowski earlier this week, and last week, now almost lock step with the Turtle; she voted FOR the 'skinny' repeal obviously. What changed her? Murkowski has stood up to pressure from the Orange Creature, and the Turtle, why not Capito?

[DFW]

48. Maybe a small informal chat with McCain before the vote?

I have no inside knowledge, but it wouldn't surprise me if she had a little talk with McCain before the vote saying, "look, John, I really don't want this thing to pass, but Mitch is really heavily on my ass, threatening to withhold projects for West Virginia, and defunding existing ones if I don't vote with him. Can you let me in on whether or not you'll vote to pass this bill?"

And I can imagine McCain telling her, "don't worry, Shelley. I am 80 years old, newly re-elected and terminally ill. There's nothing anyone can hold over my head now. I'm voting against it, and so are Susan and Lisa. You can vote for it and get Mitch off your back. It fails, no matter what, so you're off the hook. And this conversation never happened."

I grew up with DC politics. Conversations that "never happened" happen all the time.

[LeftInTX]

49. That is exactly what I thought

Capito and Heller

[oberliner]

35. Not to mention credit to the Democratic leadership

For making sure there were no defectors on our side.

[still_one]

39. Excellent point Obe

[Ligyron]

37. If he'd voted "NO" in the first place to even open debate we'd been done days ago.

But then we'd a missed all the drama and his opportunity to be a hero.

[Lucky Luciano]

46. Yup!! I was thinking the same thing. nt

[Javaman]

40. that's because the opportunist sycophant is a "maverick" or something.

I am really tired of that maverick bullshit.

Props to Collins and Murkowski. It's is rightly deserved.

[denvine]

41. Lisa Murkowski, Susan Collins and Mazie Hirono are the heroes

but we have to thank McCaine for his vote despite whatever his motives were. I just sent a thank you email to Senators Murkowski, Collins and Hirono. They need to hear from us in a positive way. Of course all the Democratic Senators need to hear from us but they did exactly what we expect from our Democratic Senators. Murkowski and Collins held steadfast against tremendous pressure and ridicule from their own party. They need to know that in these times that sort of integrity is appreciated. I also sent a thank you to John McCaine after I had sent a nasty email about his first vote. The important thing is he came through, for whatever reason, and helped to kill it. There had to be some pleasure in sticking it to Trump!

[MFM008]

52. It took

"A village" to protect us from Jabba the maggot and his minions.