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MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 12:28 PM Jul 2017

What kind of good Christian woman,

who wants to raise her children to be moral upstanding citizens, works for and enables men who in the vilest and most violent language imaginable, openly insult and demean everyone they disagree with, while also discussing and bragging about groping and sucking on the private parts of both men and women?

What kind of woman? Why Sarah Huckabee Sanders, of course, a person who is the walking, talking epitome of Republican hypocrisy.

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What kind of good Christian woman, (Original Post) MoonRiver Jul 2017 OP
Put the 'vile' blame where it belongs - on Trump and Scaramucci (who claim to be Christian as well) SharonClark Jul 2017 #1
Perhaps..but she is the mouth of the WH and going along with and adding to asiliveandbreathe Jul 2017 #4
I'm not giving her a pass but let's quit blaming women for the actions of men. SharonClark Jul 2017 #10
I'm a woman Bettie Jul 2017 #13
Me too, agree completely. No one forced her to take this shite job and lie. flibbitygiblets Jul 2017 #22
Most important rule in our house is that Bettie Jul 2017 #24
Huckabee Sanders is perpetuating the actions of these men. hamsterjill Jul 2017 #25
Hypocrites all. n/t sprinkleeninow Jul 2017 #31
+1 hamsterjill Jul 2017 #39
Where did that come from? - I don't care if she is man or woman - asiliveandbreathe Jul 2017 #32
You might want to reread the post Glamrock Jul 2017 #40
I think she's... SergeStorms Jul 2017 #48
I did. MoonRiver Jul 2017 #6
People like her are the reason we have the pig there. we can do it Jul 2017 #54
Its not pc to ridicule on someone with disabilities. Lack of morals is a disability, right? flt rsk Jul 2017 #2
Not as far as I know. MoonRiver Jul 2017 #8
Huckabee Sanders has been brainwashed since she was a child csziggy Jul 2017 #12
+1 narnian60 Jul 2017 #16
Could it be the indoctrination she has been so completely been immersed in.. asiliveandbreathe Jul 2017 #3
It is not my job to analyze her behavior. hamsterjill Jul 2017 #28
Then that could be said for...... SergeStorms Jul 2017 #49
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2017 #5
Nonsense...good Christian women do what men tell them to do... brooklynite Jul 2017 #7
Well yeah, there's that too. MoonRiver Jul 2017 #9
That's another verse run into the ground by certain so-called sprinkleeninow Jul 2017 #34
Why is it that the people who claim to be the most religious are also the most horrible? Initech Jul 2017 #11
Hell if I know, lol. MoonRiver Jul 2017 #14
I've noticed that too. smirkymonkey Jul 2017 #15
true dat n/t sammythecat Jul 2017 #19
I see your point, but hey, "I'm a Christian". hamsterjill Jul 2017 #30
No, I don't mean all people who identify as Christians are assholes. smirkymonkey Jul 2017 #59
Yep. You got it!!! hamsterjill Jul 2017 #61
It is possible they somehow think they are superior because they believe they Enoki33 Jul 2017 #33
They got theirs, that's why... BBG Jul 2017 #17
"Once saved, always saved." eom sprinkleeninow Jul 2017 #37
To compensate for their repression IronLionZion Jul 2017 #18
It's always the ones who proclaim it hibbing Jul 2017 #29
Yeah I know a few people like that. Initech Jul 2017 #44
"It is written." eom sprinkleeninow Jul 2017 #36
I think it's because.... SergeStorms Jul 2017 #50
Give her a break, she was brought up a Southern Baptist. Preacher's daughter. Look sinkingfeeling Jul 2017 #20
Obviously correct but TomSlick Jul 2017 #62
Recipe for cognitive dissonance: associate "good" as synonym for "Christian" Moostache Jul 2017 #21
Just like her diddy.... paleotn Jul 2017 #23
Easy, she's a fake Christian onecaliberal Jul 2017 #26
It's time we stopped being afraid of "dirty" words. alarimer Jul 2017 #27
Shit piss fuck cunt cocksucker motherfucker and tits. Initech Jul 2017 #46
No fucking shit. Warren DeMontague Jul 2017 #55
I wrote about this last night ProudLib72 Jul 2017 #35
She sure is Daddies girl Soxfan58 Jul 2017 #38
I am curious Skittles Jul 2017 #41
Nothing but that is usually one of their avowed goals. MoonRiver Jul 2017 #57
Another MFM008 Jul 2017 #42
Her Dad is one of those christofacist grifters kimbutgar Jul 2017 #43
Fake Christian woman. Name only. jalan48 Jul 2017 #45
Abortion. Nevernose Jul 2017 #47
"good christian woman" gilbert sullivan Jul 2017 #51
Bingo! gohuskies Jul 2017 #52
Look who her father is , Mike, hypocrite , fascist , Mussolini lover , Huckabee . geretogo Jul 2017 #53
Maybe because real "goodness" has nothing to do with either Christianity or not swearing? Warren DeMontague Jul 2017 #56
Well, of course. MoonRiver Jul 2017 #58
That right there! beam me up scottie Jul 2017 #60
One who grew up lying for her crooked preacher turned crooked politician daddy Warpy Jul 2017 #63
Look at who her daddy is RhodeIslandOne Jul 2017 #64

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
1. Put the 'vile' blame where it belongs - on Trump and Scaramucci (who claim to be Christian as well)
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 12:35 PM
Jul 2017

Huckabee is an enabler as is the rest of the White House and cabinet but she is not causing the vileness.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
4. Perhaps..but she is the mouth of the WH and going along with and adding to
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 12:41 PM
Jul 2017

the vileness...a lot of what she says, is wrapped around what she thinks....I am not ready to give her a pass...would I, forsake the American people, in the ways SHS is...not in my lifetime...she is selling us out for money...and fame..too bad it is the wrong kind....she is enabling the wrong people....but then, she has NO point of reference other than big daddy....

Bettie

(16,083 posts)
13. I'm a woman
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 01:21 PM
Jul 2017

and I blame her, not for the actions of the men, but for her own actions in CHOOSING to knowingly and blatantly lie day in and out about what is happening.

As a mother, I think that is a terrible example to set for her children.

I feel the same about KellyAnne.

Men who lie all day every day are just as poor of examples for their kids, but in evangelical/very religious families moms tend to be more involved with kids than the men.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
22. Me too, agree completely. No one forced her to take this shite job and lie.
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 02:47 PM
Jul 2017

Suckabee Slanders isn't being blamed for their actions, she's being blamed for condoning, excusing and perpetuating it.

Bettie

(16,083 posts)
24. Most important rule in our house is that
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 02:54 PM
Jul 2017

no one lies.

Leads to a lot of me asking my boys "do you really want an answer to that question?". They have learned to say "no" sometimes, because I also don't sugar coat things too much.

But, it also makes parenting way simpler. If my boys have done something wrong, they admit it immediately, knowing that the punishment is WAY worse if they lie.

I worry though that I'm handicapping them for the future. None of them lies, even if the truth makes them look bad.

This has caused them problems among the kids at school...oh, and one parent told me that lying is a sign of creativity and intelligence in kids which is kind of bizarre to me, but whatever.

But, back to the point: as a mom, I would be totally embarrassed to get up and lie to people on television daily. I'd feel like it made me a bad mom and a bad person. No one is forcing her to do that and the fact that she does leads one to assume a lack of morals.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
25. Huckabee Sanders is perpetuating the actions of these men.
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 02:58 PM
Jul 2017

Therefore, I (as a woman) will NOT give her or Kellyanne a pass. In my mind, they are all disgusting.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
32. Where did that come from? - I don't care if she is man or woman -
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 03:12 PM
Jul 2017

She, who just happens to be a woman, is as vile as they come...I do not blame her for being a woman - I am a woman..she has a choice - she made her choice...

Blaming women for the actions of men???? - Did I do that??? I blame SHS for her own actions....

SergeStorms

(19,190 posts)
48. I think she's...
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 03:37 PM
Jul 2017

responsible for her own actions, and for the words which come out of her mouth. She chooses to enable them, which means she agrees with what they're saying. They're not holding a gun to her head to walk out there and say those things. She's just as big a jackass as the man sitting in the Oval Office.

Just my opinion. I wouldn't stick up for anyone in this mis-administration.

csziggy

(34,133 posts)
12. Huckabee Sanders has been brainwashed since she was a child
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 01:16 PM
Jul 2017

She needed an intervention and pity years ago.

But now that she has been an adult for a significant time she needs to take responsibility for her actions and their consequences.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
3. Could it be the indoctrination she has been so completely been immersed in..
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 12:36 PM
Jul 2017

Could it be? - perhaps? -as to why, considering the evil way in which her brain works - when people are able to think for themselves, weigh all sides of an issue, see ALL people, not be swayed by rhetoric, believe in themselves to make good decisions, do the most good for the most people - then they are NOT the walking dead.....

Do the most good for the most people should be the starting point....

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
28. It is not my job to analyze her behavior.
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 03:03 PM
Jul 2017

It is my right, as a citizen, to have an opinion about her behavior. She is a vile, nasty and mean human being. She treats the press corp (who are there only to do their jobs) like shit. There is NOTHING "Christian" about her behavior.

I don't care what she has been immersed in. Her job is to answer questions posed to her by the press with accuracy and truth. A little bit of decorum wouldn't hurt either. Instead, she vilifies the reporter who asks questions of her.

SergeStorms

(19,190 posts)
49. Then that could be said for......
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 03:41 PM
Jul 2017

just about anyone. Are we going to feel sorry for the Orange Hemorrhoid now, because he didn't get enough love from his despicable father?

Response to MoonRiver (Original post)

sprinkleeninow

(20,235 posts)
34. That's another verse run into the ground by certain so-called
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 03:13 PM
Jul 2017

christian sects. They don't include the adjacent ones, as usual.

Initech

(100,055 posts)
11. Why is it that the people who claim to be the most religious are also the most horrible?
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 01:07 PM
Jul 2017

I have never understood that. It is possible to be a Christian without being a colossal dick, but it also seems to me that the holiest of thou are also the worst people imaginable! Why is that?

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
15. I've noticed that too.
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 01:34 PM
Jul 2017

It's funny, when people make a point of telling me "I'm a Christian", they might as well be telling me "I'm a giant asshole".

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
30. I see your point, but hey, "I'm a Christian".
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 03:06 PM
Jul 2017

And I don't consider myself a giant asshole.

There is a movement underway (i.e., Bishop Barber) to call attention to the fact that the right wing crazies don't necessarily represent the teachings of Christ. I'm happy to see that movement beginning. You know, returning grace, mercy, love, compassion, etc. to the dialogue.

The right wing crazies have tried to hold ownership of Christianity for some time, when in fact, they represent only a portion of us - vocal as they may be.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
59. No, I don't mean all people who identify as Christians are assholes.
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 05:13 PM
Jul 2017

There are different types of Christians. There are the mainstream Catholics/Protestants, etc who quietly walk their talk and then their are the Mega Church, Political christians with a capital K, who will never pass up an opportunity to tell you "I am A CHRISTIAN" and those are the people that I am referring to.

They aren't real Christians, they are a right-wing hate cult hiding behind Christianity in order to feel better about the evil things that they do and say.

Enoki33

(1,587 posts)
33. It is possible they somehow think they are superior because they believe they
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 03:13 PM
Jul 2017

already have all the answers and no longer need to look further.

BBG

(2,530 posts)
17. They got theirs, that's why...
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 02:33 PM
Jul 2017

As in they think they got a get-out-of-hell-free card and so can do nothing that will be held against them. The moral curse of evangelicals.

IronLionZion

(45,405 posts)
18. To compensate for their repression
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 02:34 PM
Jul 2017

There is a type of person who think their sins will be forgiven and their conscience will be clear if they cast judgment down upon others and make them suffer. It's also a way of deflecting blame and attention off of themselves and projecting it onto others.

I've seen it too many times. It has to be a pattern.

hibbing

(10,095 posts)
29. It's always the ones who proclaim it
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 03:06 PM
Jul 2017

I worked with a woman, who always talked about her Christianity. She had a poster in her office "Remember the persecuted". One time we were taking about something and she says something about "Gayds" instead of AIDS. I will live forever with the guilt and shame of not having filed some sort of complaint against her.

Peace

SergeStorms

(19,190 posts)
50. I think it's because....
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 03:44 PM
Jul 2017

they view themselves as doing "god's work", and that the end justifies ANY means it takes to get there. They don't realize how much they have in common with radical Islam.

sinkingfeeling

(51,444 posts)
20. Give her a break, she was brought up a Southern Baptist. Preacher's daughter. Look
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 02:46 PM
Jul 2017

at the lies her daddy's told.

TomSlick

(11,096 posts)
62. Obviously correct but
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 08:46 PM
Jul 2017

Momma Janet makes Daddy Mike seem almost a real Christian.

Two Arkansas expressions apply: "She can't help her raising" and "bless her heart."

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
21. Recipe for cognitive dissonance: associate "good" as synonym for "Christian"
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 02:47 PM
Jul 2017

Sorry for a bit of snark, but I am sick to death of the wildly abused notion that self-identifying as a "Christian" has anything at all to do with being a good, moral person....in many cases it is a categorical disqualifying attribute, not a badge of honor...

paleotn

(17,902 posts)
23. Just like her diddy....
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 02:48 PM
Jul 2017

I isn't about religion. It's about the money. They would openly worship satan if it involved a sizable revenue stream.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
27. It's time we stopped being afraid of "dirty" words.
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 03:02 PM
Jul 2017

Christians are the biggest hypocrites on the planet if they criticize somebody over dirty words, yet excuse the actions of a Trump administration that are more vile than mere language.

I hate pearl clutching when it comes to language. You can be morally upstanding and still curse. You could argue that there is a time and place for everything, but morals have little to do with language itself. And it's prissy to complain about it anyway, as if it's the worst thing on the planet. The Trump Administration and anyone associated with it are doing to people what they accused Steve Bannon of doing to himself.

Skittles

(153,138 posts)
41. I am curious
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 03:24 PM
Jul 2017

what does being Christian have to do with raising children to be moral upstanding citizens?

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
57. Nothing but that is usually one of their avowed goals.
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 05:03 PM
Jul 2017

Of course non-Christians want the same thing.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
47. Abortion.
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 03:34 PM
Jul 2017

One of my closest friend's mother works with us (as in, employment). Kind, generous. She still makes me lunch once a week, even when I didn't marry her daughter . (Coincidentally, her daughter, my daughter, and I were Sanders delegates; my wife and yet another coworker were Clinton delegates. Never a single argument in real life)

The mom lives her life in the Christian ideal, all the way. Mormon, too, no less.

She won't vote Democratic because she's against abortion. She won't vote for "dead babies" regardless of any other issue. I think we did convince her to vote at all.

gohuskies

(1,155 posts)
52. Bingo!
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 04:01 PM
Jul 2017

As I read your post, I was thinking it was the vile creature Sarah Huckabee. She is completely offensive and a total scumbag who claims pious virtue. She is the opposite of all that is good. An idealogue with dark ages mentality.

geretogo

(1,281 posts)
53. Look who her father is , Mike, hypocrite , fascist , Mussolini lover , Huckabee .
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 04:29 PM
Jul 2017

Like father like daughter .

Warpy

(111,222 posts)
63. One who grew up lying for her crooked preacher turned crooked politician daddy
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 10:25 PM
Jul 2017

I don't imagine much of what she was taught when she was growing up added up and I imagine the consequences for noticing that were fairly severe.

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