Australian police disrupt a terrorist plot to blow up a plane. They've caught

[applegrove]

4 people. CNN. No link yet.

[NightWatcher]

1. Do they actually prevent crime or entrap people like the Feds do here?

[applegrove]

3. Sorry. I don't agree.I think the feds know what they are doing. A whole crew

were caught in Canada a decade ago. They had a whole jihad training camp in Ontario. There were 14 of them. So what I'd they had not started their attack. They were at war.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Ontario_terrorism_plot

[NightWatcher]

6. To be fair, there have been a few instances where the Feds ask someone if they want to

blow up a building. If they say Yes, the Feds arrest them for conspiracy to do something the actors don't have the money nor skills to even accomplish.

[Warren DeMontague]

7. It's generally a little more complicated than that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Portland_car_bomb_plot

And regardless, if the question is "hey, do you want to blow up this crowd full of parents pushing babies in strollers" and the answer isn't some variation on an immediate "uh, fuck no", then ... fuck that person and let them rot.

[NightWatcher]

9. My original reply was asking if the threat was credible and imminent

Or whether it was an early stage conspiracy charge.

I didn't mean to offend

[applegrove]

8. But they get warned by someone that the target was talking jihad. The

talk is dangerous around young minds. The Canadian authorities waited until the gang were buying fertiliser before they arrested them. They could have arrested them much earlier. And maybe fewer young men would have been sucked into the plot. I guess it is a choice.

[Warren DeMontague]

5. You mean like that "poor, innocent kid" who was all set to blow up the Portland Tree lighting?

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/11/fbi_thwarts_terrorist_bombing.html


Hell, i knew parents with babies who were at that thing that year. That asshole was ready to kill them without a second thought.

I'll side with the feds on this one. I only wish they had been able to similarly "entrap", say, Timothy McVeigh -- before HE killed all those people. Those children.


You want to fight injustice, complain about the prisons we have that are full of pot smokers.

[malaise]

2. Here

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-30/plot-to-bring-down-plane-disrupted,-pm-says-after-sydney-raids/8757386
<snip>
Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull says anti-terrorism raids carried out in Sydney yesterday "disrupted" an alleged plot to bring down an aircraft.
Key points:

AFP says operation related to information about use of "improvised device"
Extra security measures put in place at major airports, travellers advised to allow extra time for security screening
Australia's terror threat level remains at probable

Four men were arrested after the Australian Federal Police, New South Wales Police and ASIO raided five properties in the inner-city suburb of Surry Hills, and the south-western suburbs of Lakemba, Wiley Park and Punchbowl.

"We face a range of terrorist threats. Some of them are lone actors, who activate very quickly with very little warning. On other occasions you get quite elaborate conspiracies — this appears to be in that category," Mr Turnbull said.

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4. Thanks.