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Wed Aug 2, 2017, 02:55 AM

Thinking about jettisoned or demoted MSNBC talent.

Was sitting around talking political tv hosts. The subject came up that it looks like things have now settled down at MSNBC after several years of on air moves.

People they dumped or demoted to a lesser role and fewer on air hours:
Alex Wagner
Ed Schultz
Phil Donahue
Melissa Harris Perry

Al Sharpton
Thomas Roberts
Alex Witt
Chris Jansing
Steve Kornacki
Jonathan Capehart

Others?


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Reply Thinking about jettisoned or demoted MSNBC talent. (Original post)
Funtatlaguy Aug 2017 OP
Raine Aug 2017 #1
Rhiannon12866 Aug 2017 #4
Funtatlaguy Aug 2017 #9
brush Aug 2017 #22
Funtatlaguy Aug 2017 #23
Raine Aug 2017 #37
a kennedy Aug 2017 #2
Funtatlaguy Aug 2017 #8
brush Aug 2017 #15
OnDoutside Aug 2017 #12
a kennedy Aug 2017 #27
irisblue Aug 2017 #3
Funtatlaguy Aug 2017 #10
nadine_mn Aug 2017 #25
Funtatlaguy Aug 2017 #26
Funtatlaguy Aug 2017 #28
TheDebbieDee Aug 2017 #29
RockaFowler Aug 2017 #33
nadine_mn Aug 2017 #5
Funtatlaguy Aug 2017 #11
DeeDeeNY Aug 2017 #13
nadine_mn Aug 2017 #24
eShirl Aug 2017 #6
eShirl Aug 2017 #7
OnDoutside Aug 2017 #14
brush Aug 2017 #18
oberliner Aug 2017 #16
Renew Deal Aug 2017 #17
Funtatlaguy Aug 2017 #19
brush Aug 2017 #20
BannonsLiver Aug 2017 #32
Funtatlaguy Aug 2017 #36
Funtatlaguy Aug 2017 #21
COLGATE4 Aug 2017 #30
irisblue Aug 2017 #31
spanone Aug 2017 #34
SoCalDem Aug 2017 #35

Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Wed Aug 2, 2017, 03:09 AM

1. Cenk Ungar, krystal Ball, Ronan Farrow nt

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Response to Raine (Reply #1)

Wed Aug 2, 2017, 03:23 AM

4. I thought of Krystal Ball first, and Toure - from "The Cycle"

They also had Abby Huntsman and that awful S.E. Cupp, briefly, for a "different" viewpoint.

I was never a fan of Ronan Farrow, but I liked Alex Wagner and Tamron Hall and always tried to catch Joy Reid and Martin Bashir. Joy and The Rev now have weekend shows, but I watched them in the late afternoon/evening. And don't forget Keith Olbermann!

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Response to Raine (Reply #1)

Wed Aug 2, 2017, 04:50 AM

9. Oh yes, thanx.

Didn't Cenk say he was told to tone down the lefty talk, and he wouldn't.
And, how could I forget Crystal Ball. Schoolboy crush on her.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #9)

Wed Aug 2, 2017, 06:52 AM

22. Ball has become a disappointment. She's one of the ones behind trying to oust Nancy Pelosi.

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Response to brush (Reply #22)

Wed Aug 2, 2017, 07:05 AM

23. Who does she work for now?

Nt

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #9)

Thu Aug 3, 2017, 01:21 AM

37. Yup, Cenk was told to tone it down on his daily show and even doing that

he was still going to be exiled to the weekend. Cenk wouldn't do it and went to Current TV but unfortunately Current was soon gone.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Wed Aug 2, 2017, 03:14 AM

2. Tameron Hall......

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Response to a kennedy (Reply #2)

Wed Aug 2, 2017, 04:48 AM

8. I thought she went over to NBC

So I didn't include her.
I also wonder if she's still dating Lawrence O'Donnell and how that might have affected her job.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #8)

Wed Aug 2, 2017, 06:24 AM

15. She left NBC because they bumped her for the now ratings-challenged Megan Kelly...

I'm guessing they wish now they had never heard of Megan Kelly.

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Response to a kennedy (Reply #2)

Wed Aug 2, 2017, 05:37 AM

12. Tameron left at her choosing

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Response to OnDoutside (Reply #12)

Wed Aug 2, 2017, 07:54 AM

27. Miss her terribly........thanks for this info.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Wed Aug 2, 2017, 03:20 AM

3. Martin Bashir now @ the BBC.co

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Response to irisblue (Reply #3)

Wed Aug 2, 2017, 04:51 AM

10. I thought he quit to do non political policy work.

Was he fired?

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #10)

Wed Aug 2, 2017, 07:44 AM

25. Pressured to quit after the remark about Palin

I really miss him - he had such a great presence and a no bs way of reporting

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Response to nadine_mn (Reply #25)

Wed Aug 2, 2017, 07:54 AM

26. Did you ever see the live shot that Palin did on tv

With live turkeys being put thru a shredder.
I threw up in my mouth...twice...
Once for the turkey...and once for the bird....lol.

https://m.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #26)

Wed Aug 2, 2017, 08:02 AM

28. Just thought of another one. David Schuster.

Why was he fired?

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #28)

Wed Aug 2, 2017, 10:12 AM

29. They let Schuster go after finding out he interviewed

 

with CNN for a position there...

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #28)

Wed Aug 2, 2017, 12:35 PM

33. Also the "Pimping Chelsea Out" line in 2008

He's bounced all over the place since then and can't seem to find a job for long

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Wed Aug 2, 2017, 04:24 AM

5. Keith Olbermann nt

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Response to nadine_mn (Reply #5)

Wed Aug 2, 2017, 04:54 AM

11. Oh, the prodigal child.

One if the best writers ever....in both the sports and news arenas.
My favorite segment was rhe worst person in the world. Usually somebody at Fox. Hilarious.
If only he could learn to play well with others. Sigh.
I do watch the stuff he does now for GQ when somebody posts his commentarys.

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Response to nadine_mn (Reply #5)

Wed Aug 2, 2017, 05:41 AM

13. It was Keith who got Rachel her first TV exposure

He was one of the best hosts ever. If only he didn't burn so many bridges behind him.

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Response to DeeDeeNY (Reply #13)

Wed Aug 2, 2017, 07:42 AM

24. correction - not 'burn' bridges - 'napalmed' them

as both he and his colleagues have said in the past

Oh Keith - I fricking love him, and I have pretty much done the same in my career

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Wed Aug 2, 2017, 06:05 AM

14. My thoughts


Alex Wagner - I agree, she was a loss.
Ed Schultz - a loss
Phil Donahue - a loss
Melissa Harris Perry - that really was her own fault, she talked herself into getting fired.

Al Sharpton - I think he's bed blocking at this stage, even on Sundays. I don't think he adds much any more.
Thomas Roberts - meh, nice but not incisive enough as his replacements Velshi or Ruhle.
Alex Witt - same as Roberts
Chris Jansing - would like to see the back of her, not helpful to Democrats.
Steve Kornacki - got promoted beyond his abilities, back to his better supporting role.
Jonathan Capehart - excellent (Democratic) support contributor, .

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Response to OnDoutside (Reply #14)

Wed Aug 2, 2017, 06:40 AM

18. Ed Schultz a loss? Are you kidding? He went back to being a convervative. You haven't heard that?

You probably need to review the Melissa Harris Perry cancellation also. She felt mistreated by the network, as did Tamron Hall.

NBC doesn't seem to do well with their AA women hosts. Joy Reid, for instance, is brilliant yet they keep passing her over for prime time slots but find places for the likes of the now-cancelled Greta Van Susteren and that other FOX refugee, the ratings-challenged Megan Kelly.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Wed Aug 2, 2017, 06:33 AM

16. Those were good moves

 

For the most part.

Right now, I think they are a mixed bag. I really wish they would sharpen their game a bit (same with CNN).

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Wed Aug 2, 2017, 06:36 AM

17. Steve Kornacki Is gone?

Didn't he work for Maddow? Did they just pull him off the air?

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #17)

Wed Aug 2, 2017, 06:41 AM

19. Not gone. Just doesn't have his own show anymore.

They kept moving him around as an anchor until they got new people in place.
Now, he's back to reporter and numbers crunching.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #19)

Wed Aug 2, 2017, 06:44 AM

20. He was unwatchable, especially during the 2016 campaign. He came off IMO as anti-Hillary.

Way too much zeal in reporting on Benghazi and her emails much like the dreadful Andrea Mitchell.

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Response to brush (Reply #20)

Wed Aug 2, 2017, 12:34 PM

32. He was virulently anti Hillary

His Cheshire Cat grin was ever present on election night. I call him the human bedsore.

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #32)

Wed Aug 2, 2017, 08:02 PM

36. Which surprised me because he is

Openly gay and from Massachusetts.
Guess he's a Log Cabin Republican.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Wed Aug 2, 2017, 06:48 AM

21. What was the real story on Karen Finney?

They had given her an afternoon show...either 3pm or 4pm to anchor.
She was fired, I think and later got on Hillarys staff.
Or, maybe she quit to go worth for Hillary.
Anyone know?
I always thought she was very intelligent.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Wed Aug 2, 2017, 12:23 PM

30. One of the very best - Martin Bashir

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Response to COLGATE4 (Reply #30)

Wed Aug 2, 2017, 12:33 PM

31. Bashir is on the BBC.co I think as Religious Affairs correspondent.

My local NPR broadcasts the BBC after 11pm, and being a night owl, I heard him a few days last. I didn't know he'd moved back to the BBC, just recognized his voice and went off to the internet to look. His Wikipedia page is out of date, the BBC pages were more helpful.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Wed Aug 2, 2017, 12:35 PM

34. they are turning right

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Response to spanone (Reply #34)

Wed Aug 2, 2017, 01:06 PM

35. BINGO

When Obama was elected, they added all kinds of liberal people....
Now they have to "clean house" because they mistakenly think that they "need" conservative voices...as if FOX,Breitbart,and the bazillions of other right wing site did not already exist..

They got rid of (gave a lower profile to) gay, black & mixed-race men and women, women..and tried to get rid of Chris Hayes until he was nominated for a Peabody & some emmy awards..tried to jettison Lawrence until they got ferocious push-back..

I do not mind seeing less of Alex Witt..(wish she'd quit wearing teeny bopper clothes & dump the aging surfer-girl look)

they DID find room for Hugh Hewitt...Greta (for a while)...and other righties..

they still do not understand their audience....

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