#NSA friends tell me they have Hannity in OPERATIONAL calls with known RIS agents. Team Mueller has

[MelissaB]

#NSA friends tell me they have Hannity in OPERATIONAL calls with known RIS agents. Team Mueller has it all. He is going down. SAD!

Link to tweet

I've been waiting for this.

[MelissaB]

1. For people who don't know who Schindler is:

John SchindlerVerified account
@20committee

#Natsec columnist @observer, security consultant, author, provocateur, bon vivant, polyglot, counterintelligencer, cat guardian. Formerly NSA, NAVSECGRU, NWC.

This is his latest article.

White House Colludes With Fox News to Embrace Disinformation
The Trump administration has started employing Chekist-style tactics to protect itself from KremlinGate
By John R. Schindler • 08/03/17 10:41am

We’re officially losing the propaganda war with Russia. This isn’t entirely news. Two years ago, I explained how the Obama administration, facing a deluge of Kremlin lies aimed at the West, refused to fight back. This shirking of battle in the propaganda war that Vladimir Putin is waging against America and our allies may be the most consequential what-if of our 2016 election.

Hillary Clinton’s backers have pointed questions about why a Democratic administration proved so timid about resisting the Kremlin’s weaponized lie machine—as well they should. Recently, more troubling questions have emerged about why the Trump White House is even more derelict than its predecessor about this important national security matter.

In response to Russian clandestine interference in our 2016 election—a spy campaign in which disinformation and Active Measures, to use proper Chekist terminology, played a pivotal role in harming the Democrats and helping Donald Trump—late last year Congress passed and the Obama White House signed a bill giving the State Department $80 million to resist Russian lies aimed at the West.

This, therefore, was the law of the land when Trump took his oath of office a few weeks later, but, as I recently explained, in the more than half a year since, absolutely nothing has been done to follow the law. The State Department has hired nobody, created no new programs or organizations, and has not spent a dollar of the $80 million Congress gave it for this new and important mission. All this while our Western allies actually are doing something in the fight against the Kremlin’s lie machine.

More: http://observer.com/2017/08/donald-trump-fox-news-seth-rich/

[HopeAgain]

4. Doesn't give me much

To base credibility on.

[RandomAccess]

18. You could always go visit his Twitter feed

https://twitter.com/20committee

Where his profile says:

#Natsec columnist @observer, security consultant, author, provocateur, bon vivant, polyglot, counterintelligencer, cat guardian. Formerly NSA, NAVSECGRU, NWC.


I personally find him quite credible, from what I've seen of his tweets and articles.

[PoliticAverse]

26. He's a "bon vivant" and "polyglot"! n/t

[TrollBuster9090]

80. He's only a Bon Vivant because he didn't pass his Hedonist exam.

Bon Vivant, then Hedonist, and on to Gormandizer. Good luck with the exam next year, John!

[PoliticAverse]

82. Is that a low bar exam? n/t

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[WinkyDink]

35. Doesn't matter. Time, and Mueller, will reveal all.

[TrogL]

20. What on earth are you talking about???

It says no such thing.

[Not Ruth]

53. He demonizes Malcom Nance, pretty much considers him the stapler guy from Office Space

[bettyellen]

40. Please delete this crap. No one demonized any black man. WTF?

[MyNameGoesHere]

63. Ok

But I swear I saw something about black men waiting outside his cell. Perhaps the original tweet was changed since it was linked. I asked nicely and if I was mistaken my apologies. I deleted it even though you were kind of uncivil to a civil request, right or wrong. So that's all I have to know.

[bettyellen]

70. Thank you! I don't know what you saw... but I appreciate the correction.

Because that was a little odd. If you really saw what you thought you did, I'd like an explaination as well. It's truly a WTF world now. Peace.

[tblue37]

90. I saw that comment on the original tweet, too. Maybe Schindler cleaned it up because

someone pointed out how racist it was.

[MLAA]

71. You saw correctly, it was there. It was the first time I have seen such a reference in his tweets.

[bettyellen]

72. ?

[femmedem]

89. It was a tweet about large black men lurking outside the cell.

A reference to scary black rapists. The OP deleted it but John Schindler did not. You can read it on his feed if you'd like--it's just a few tweets below the one still in the OP--but I'm not going to link to a racist rape joke.

On twitter, everyone is piling on John Schindler about the racism, and justifiably so. But not too many are saying anything about his use of rape imagery.

Rape is rape, regardless of whether it happens in a prison and regardless of whether it happens to someone you dislike. And if people are gleefully imagining the rape of Sean Hannity, we still have a problem with rape culture.

[HopeAgain]

3. Should I know who John Schindler is?

[MelissaB]

5. See post 1 for more info.

He's a writer.

[leftofcool]

7. No necessarily but he is the real deal.

Hubby used to work for him.

[MelissaB]

15. Thanks leftofcool!

[lindysalsagal]

6. Can anyone unpack "OPERATIONAL calls with known RIS agents."?

I'd love to have a civilian translation.

[leftofcool]

8. Calls to Russian Intelligence Service

I think operational is an NSA term for colluding with an enemy, maybe.

[L. Coyote]

98. The enemy of my enemy is my friend

might be applicable here.

[Amaryllis]

10. maybe means plannning actions as opposed to just passing on info...."Okay, you do this; I'll do..."

[leftofcool]

51. That makes sense.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

11. thanks for so coolly asking my question !

[FreepFryer]

9. He is implying Hannity knowingly coordinated fake news stories with members of Russian intel. (n/t)

[lindysalsagal]

12. The news just gets better and better!

Lock him up!

[workinclasszero]

13. I figured he was as big a traitor as Trump

I hope I live to see that bastard do the perp walk.

[AZ8theist]

14. Anti American d-bag Hannity

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy....

[MelissaB]

16. Welcome to DU!

[Casprings]

17. Best not to get worked up over conspiracy people

Plenty of well sourced legit news happening to allow oneself to be drawn down this rabbit hole. An actual conspiracy is no excuse for conspiracy thinking.

[RandomAccess]

21. Gee, that sounds so patronizing

like you're talking to children.

I'll pick and choose my own conspiracy theories, thank you.

[Casprings]

23. And that is why people get looney on both sides.

This whole democracy thing might not be the best for the internet age.

[RandomAccess]

28. As a patriotic American

I get a little suspicious and leery when anyone suggests democracy has flaws, shortcomings or inadequacies that make it unsuitable for the U.S. for any reason.

[Casprings]

29. I get leery when people believe shit because they want to

But that is just me.

[RandomAccess]

31. Oh, so you're the arbiter of what's true and what's not?

And you can make those decisions for me, and others?

Sounds a little grandiose to me.

[Casprings]

32. It's tough, but someone needs to do it. NT

[RandomAccess]

100. Flawed premise

But you knew that

[WinkyDink]

39. Why yes, yes, it is just you. One wonders why.

[MelissaB]

24. Conspiracy people? You must have no idea who Schindler is.

[Casprings]

25. Dude that showed his dick to co-workers and knows enough to sound good?

Yeah, I know who he is

[MelissaB]

34. What does that have to do with being a conspiracy person?

Hint: nothing.

[Casprings]

38. He is well out of the loop at the NSA, was fired at the Naval acedemy for misconduct

No one at the NSA would have any reason to talk to him and risk their career, given his security clearance and need to know are gone.

So yeah, it actually has everything to do with why one should mistrust the source.

It might need that he needs some income and this is a good way to get it.

[WinkyDink]

43. "Navel acedemy." He must be very contemplative.

[MelissaB]

46. !

[Casprings]

47. Sorry.. Navy War College

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5523384

[leftstreet]

49. snarf

[TrollBuster9090]

81. You know damned well where the United States Navel Academy is!

It's in Abdominal Maryland!

[MelissaB]

45. I'm so glad that you explained all of that

and told me/us not to trust him or believe anything he says. I do so appreciate it very, very much.

:sarcasamoffnow: Since I've followed him a long time I've seen his distractors post this stuff on his feed. This is nothing new. Same ole smear.

[Casprings]

50. So what I said is not true?

1. Does he have a current security clearance?
2 Does he have a need to now?

If the answer is no on both of those, you are kidding yourself if you think anyone high up in the NSA talks to him, as he claims.

[MelissaB]

52. Thank you for being so concerned about what I think.

You concern is certainly noted.

[Casprings]

59. Your thoughts and the spreading of your thoughts affect me

It creates an environment where everything is believable. It's the core problem that we have today and it is a virus on the body politics and the core reason fake news and propaganda is effective.

[MelissaB]

64. To summarize, I'm creating an environment where fake news &

propaganda are effective.

Wee doggie! That's a good one. Did you make that up all by yourself?

I'm going to bed, so I'm sure you will have the last word.

[Casprings]

67. Yes, that is correct!

But there is always tomorrow and good places to go for facts.. WP, NYT, WSJ, etc.

Just not people with no proven standards.

Goodnight.

[bathroommonkey76]

85. Do the journalists at the WP, NYT, WSJ, etc...

have security clearances?

Schindler's journalism has been all over the treasonous weasels from the Trump administration.

Btw all of those papers you mentioned are weeks behind Louise Mensch, Claude Taylor, and Schindler- but I doubt you'll believe any of that b/c you've labeled them conspiracy loons.

And I really don't care if he pulled out his schlong in front of his coworkers- I'll put him on the same mantle with Richard Quest's odd antics with his balls in a public park. Still doesn't take away from him having knowledge and sources within the Intel community.

[Casprings]

88. I mean the Marshal of the Supreme Court told Trump about impeachment

And they are looking at a death penalty for Bannon.

That stuff is just dumb.

The papers I mentioned have journalist standards, take time to develop sources, and can be trusted to report honestly. We don't need fake news on our side.

[bathroommonkey76]

91. Ah, journalist(ic) standards

*Taylor later corrected his tweets about the "Marshall of the Supreme Court"- The Bannon story I'm not familiar with- Sounds like Mensch being melodramatic.

The NYT, WaPo and Wall Street Journal would never hire someone who plagiarized articles to write for their papers, right? I mean, they have "journalist standards", right?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jayson_Blair

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-damage-done-by-post-reporter-sari-horwitzs-plagiarism/2011/03/18/ABgtIIs_story.html?utm_term=.f394dc7e0361

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/08/daniel-flynn-wall-street-journal-plagiarism-95865_Page2.html
.

I'm quite aware of journalists developing sources over time- One of my relatives has worked for USA Today for over 20 years. And he told me a lot of reputable journalists trust the tweets of Claude Taylor, Schindler, and Mensch. In fact, they have used their tweets to dig deeper into the stories that have recently came to light.

Let's not forget AM Joy and Keith Olbermann both have used their Taylor's tweet in their broadcasts.

Link to tweet

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/05/watch-keith-olbermann-lays-out-evidence-that-a-trump-russia-grand-jury-has-already-been-convened/

Now look at the dates on the tweet and the Olbermann article- Comey was fired May 9th. Sorry, I don't believe in coincidences in this clusterfuck Trump world.

[MelissaB]

92. He writes for one.

Somehow I feel like you knew that, but thanks for kicking this thread.

[Casprings]

93. Yeah, in the op section NT

[MelissaB]

97. Thanks! Please keep kicking this thread.

[Casprings]

99. Works for me. I don't mind a discussion about sources

It's important.

[leftofcool]

54. The answer to numer one is yes

The answer to number 2 is probably. You don't even know who this guys is or who he works for now do you?

[Casprings]

57. If you got fired for showing your dick to a co-worker..

Your TS is gone. He doesn't work for the NSA and therefore has no need to know.

[leftofcool]

60. I'm just going to say LOL and stop

Keeps me out of trouble with him and hubby

[flotsam]

58. Does he need to now what? N/T

[Casprings]

62. Well, I am really good so I am making a good $25 an hour

But you can start out at $15 or so an hour.

[Skittles]

84. LOL

they are not getting their money's worth

[mythology]

94. Of course anybody who doesn't fawn over a suspect source

Is a paid troll. The absurdity of that position is obvious.

[WinkyDink]

37. "An actual conspiracy is no excuse for conspiracy thinking." Did you even read what you wrote?

[Casprings]

42. Yes.

Just because there may be an actual conspiracy is no reason to take information from suspect sources and take jumps of logic that aren't justified.

We need the truth and to be hard nosed about finding it. Not conspiratorial thinking.

[WinkyDink]

44. Thanks for your concern.

[Casprings]

55. My concern is BS like this will help take the attention away from a major scandal

If you don't stay as based as much as possiable on facts, then everything seems the same to the American people. Our sides conspiracies, the rights conspiracies, ect. This shit is part of the problem and you giving it the time of day effects me, not just you.

[LanternWaste]

95. You seem to be projecting your own limitations

"BS like this will help take the attention away from a major scandal..."

You seem to be projecting your own limitations of how many issues one may stay abreast of onto others.

It stands to reason that most people are adept and capable of following multiple concerns, issues and events simultaneously. That you are either unable to or unwilling to affects just you, not anyone else.

[Casprings]

96. Nothing about the American public, thus far, as proven your statement NT

[Eyeball_Kid]

74. Read Schindler's feed for awhile. It doesn't take much effort.

You may find him to be credible and lucid. He's got a good portfolio, he's a good writer, and he's been places you've never been.

[oberliner]

19. Hannity going after Mueller and McMaster on twitter

Wants them both fired.

[MelissaB]

22. Hannity asking if he was unmasked

Link to tweet

?lang=en

[JHan]

27. LOL

[Docreed2003]

30. Hmm....got to wonder why a "news" personality

Would be worried about being "unmasked" on surveillance tapes....interesting!!!

Oh how I would love for this smug asshole to go down in flames!!

[OnDoutside]

83. Surely that's an admission that there is something worthy of

Unmasking ? Otherwise, the reply should have been there was nothing to unmask, because he never met with Russians

[Turbineguy]

33. Great

I'll send him a tube of KY jelly spiked with silver nitrate.

[Saboburns]

36. John Schindler is not a person to put your faith in

He says a whole lot of shit most of which is not true. Do not believe most of what he tweets, he tweets it to gain popularity, not to get the truth out.

[WinkyDink]

41. So many warnings and admonitions lately, all trying to spare Trump from our suspicions.

[MelissaB]

48. +1

[leftofcool]

56. And these people have no idea who he really is.

[Casprings]

65. I want Trump gone..

And we have plenty of news today that is real and important. Grand Jury, etc. I am just for being hard nosed about the source if information and not going places the facts don't allow yet.

[MelissaB]

66. Thanks again for your concern.

[Casprings]

68. You are welcome! Stop feeding the conspiracy beast.

[Eyeball_Kid]

77. Hmm... I thought he's been on the money for the past several months.

[bathroommonkey76]

87. He has been on the money

So have Taylor and Mensch.

There are people on DU who don't subscribe to them b/c they believe all three are working against us with disinformation. lol

[Not Ruth]

101. I looked at the first hundred or so replies to the tweet and found no explanation of what it means

Anyhow, following to see if the NSA is on the money

[bathroommonkey76]

86. Of course he's not

But I'll keep reading and believing him, Mensch, and Taylor- Eventually the MSM and you people will catch up.

[lunasun]

73. Wish they could find something on Limbaugh too. Only if it is legit and sticks of course

Yes I am asking Santa for extra toys. I know the Scamity link should be celebration enough
Hope it's true

[sandensea]

75. Mercy!

If the NSA keeps this up, they'll have to be nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize in the near future.

They are among a very small and select group of people with the knowledge - and power - that can force Cheeto and Mikey Fetus Funeral to resign.

[DoodAbides]

76. If only. Take them all down. nt

[NRaleighLiberal]

78. yup - and welcome to DU.

[DoodAbides]

79. Thanks. nt

[drmeow]

102. The people they really need to find something on

are the Koch Brothers, the Murdocks, the Waltons, the Adelson's ect. Hannity will just be replaced with another toxic smarmy puppet. The heads need to be cut off of the snake. I'm not holding my breath.

[Scurrilous]

103. K&R