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madaboutharry

(40,209 posts)
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 07:50 AM Aug 2017

Joe Scarborough: Jared and Ivanka: Move back to N.Y.

In this morning's Washington Post, Joe S. writes about the ridiculous presence of Jared and Ivanka in the West Wing. The Trump children had previously enjoyed a reputation in New York as having their act together. But now we know differently.

The microscope of public life in Washington has betrayed this crew for who they really are: Entitled and spoiled, and out of their depth.

He goes after Jared's hubris and arrogance in believing that he could actually broker peace in the Middle East. Ivanka, he writes, has now betrayed her sense of entitlement, a charitable way of calling her a spoiled brat.

Scarborough said what we all already know. These two fakers have no right to be in the West Wing, they have no right to their security clearances, they are no know-nothings who should go back to their privileged life in N.Y. where they belong.

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Joe Scarborough: Jared and Ivanka: Move back to N.Y. (Original Post) madaboutharry Aug 2017 OP
The question is why are they there? LiberalBrooke Aug 2017 #1
I think it both reasons Pachamama Aug 2017 #4
Donnie likes feeling her up when Jared isn't around. n/t bathroommonkey76 Aug 2017 #5
Pure arrogance with the expectation that they could use their connections to the WH BumRushDaShow Aug 2017 #11
Agree - They have no clue what it means to serve the country or sacrifice for the common good SharonClark Aug 2017 #31
Initially it appeared PatSeg Aug 2017 #15
They are perpetual grifters Cosmocat Aug 2017 #20
Yes PatSeg Aug 2017 #24
oh yeah Cosmocat Aug 2017 #28
Tony Soprano and the Russians - see the episode "Pine Barrens" BumRushDaShow Aug 2017 #34
Exactly. Grifters grift. peace frog Aug 2017 #25
they are there to hide daddy's dementia. mopinko Aug 2017 #23
If my Weekend at Bernies memory is correct it takes 2 people to move Bernie around Johonny Aug 2017 #27
Now, that is funny! BarbD Aug 2017 #29
I have seriously wondered if they moved back to NY that the Buffoon might finally patricia92243 Aug 2017 #2
Please do, and take Daddy with you IronLionZion Aug 2017 #3
Just move back? Scarsdale Aug 2017 #7
Yes they deserve a family prison cell FakeNoose Aug 2017 #14
Yikes, conjugal visits reach a new, disgusting low central scrutinizer Aug 2017 #39
Well .. ananda Aug 2017 #17
I agree with you. madaboutharry Aug 2017 #18
Except if it's a state crime, like the case that New York prosecutor calimary Aug 2017 #30
Hubris. no_hypocrisy Aug 2017 #6
Poor innocent naive little children who love their country so much dalton99a Aug 2017 #8
Joe said, "Last week on 'MJ', we called it "FAILURE FRIDAY" for DJT, today it's "FELONY FRIDAY"!! PearliePoo2 Aug 2017 #9
Nepotism richly deserves the bad reputation it has. Girard442 Aug 2017 #10
I think a prison cell in NY for each of them Mr. Ected Aug 2017 #12
Mourning Joe will never be on my watch list. sellitman Aug 2017 #13
Plus he helped Scarsdale Aug 2017 #16
Exactly. Fk Joe Scarborough. I think he just Dark n Stormy Knight Aug 2017 #37
Joe even talked about getting Pat Buchannan back on his show. SummerSnow Aug 2017 #19
Send one to Honduras and the other to El Salvador Gabi Hayes Aug 2017 #22
I've watched some of some shows lately...not that I would ever trust him. rusty quoin Aug 2017 #26
I saw that despicable segment this morning. SharonClark Aug 2017 #32
Bingo! SummerSnow Aug 2017 #35
Oh - I read your title wrong. thought you were saying move back, like they Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2017 #21
What do you have against NY? Not Ruth Aug 2017 #33
there is something seriously skewed in the world when "dead intern" joe seems to make sense. niyad Aug 2017 #36
the entire family has been exposed as a bunch of frauds Skittles Aug 2017 #38

LiberalBrooke

(527 posts)
1. The question is why are they there?
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 07:55 AM
Aug 2017

Are they there because they are needed to soothe a toddler or are they part of the plan for the continuation of power?

BumRushDaShow

(128,899 posts)
11. Pure arrogance with the expectation that they could use their connections to the WH
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 08:37 AM
Aug 2017

to further their "brand". You saw the entire Kushner side of the family, over and over, referencing the Drumpf connections in their visa for investment literature in China - even after they were told to stop.

They considered the federal government as just another "business" (with deep pockets) that could be exploited.

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
31. Agree - They have no clue what it means to serve the country or sacrifice for the common good
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 10:48 AM
Aug 2017

It is all about their con jobs.

PatSeg

(47,418 posts)
15. Initially it appeared
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 09:00 AM
Aug 2017

that it was because Trump was in way over his head. I still think that is true, but they also seem to be there to benefit their own business interests and establish their family dynasty.

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
20. They are perpetual grifters
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 09:27 AM
Aug 2017

the first axiom for the family is how to turn a buck ...

I kept referring to his campaign as the penultimate con.

A few people chided me in not knowing what penultimate meant, because they thought the campaign was the con.

Fact is, his interest all along was in getting his crew into the white house to advance their financial interests with the power and authority of the office.

They are like the Sopranos, in like season 4 or so, where a neighbor who owned a sporting good store got into debt with Tony over gambling, and he of course ended up having to give the store to Tony, and there is a scene where he is in his office at night with the crew totally pillaging the store, open up boxes, breaking things, trying things on, as he is going out of business.

That is what they are doing to the US.

PatSeg

(47,418 posts)
24. Yes
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 10:01 AM
Aug 2017

For this bunch, conning is just doing business. I don't think they even see that it is wrong, its just what they do and what their families have always done. Only losers follow the rules. As an added perk, they get to hobnob with all these world leaders like they are royalty.

The Sopranos is an apt comparison, except I don't think Tony would ever collude with the Russians. He was oddly patriotic.

(Had to look up penultimate )

patricia92243

(12,595 posts)
2. I have seriously wondered if they moved back to NY that the Buffoon might finally
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 07:59 AM
Aug 2017

retire on his own and save the country of trouble of his impeachment.

Trump has not worked without them in years. He cannot do his job with them by his side, and without them he would go to pieces.

Ivanka and Jared have not done any favor to America by moving to Washington.

IronLionZion

(45,433 posts)
3. Please do, and take Daddy with you
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 08:05 AM
Aug 2017

this job is clearly too much for all of you. Go back to your happy privileged life when the media wasn't being mean to you with difficult questions

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
7. Just move back?
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 08:25 AM
Aug 2017

HELL NO! I want them prosecuted for their crimes, colluding and money grubbing at taxpayer expense. Same with the brothers, Beavis and Butthead, the chinless wonders. tRump wants people deported because of their skin color, these people should have to pay for their crimes. None of them ever worked a day in their lives. Very appropriate that the original tRump money was started with his grandfather the PIMP. The tRumps have been exploiting people ever since. Ivankas slave labor is just like prostitution. She cares about women;s rights just as much as her great grandpa did.

FakeNoose

(32,634 posts)
14. Yes they deserve a family prison cell
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 08:51 AM
Aug 2017

...they don't get to walk away from this, leaving the mess for us to clean up.
This family needs to pay for their sins, and everybody should see them pay.

madaboutharry

(40,209 posts)
18. I agree with you.
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 09:15 AM
Aug 2017

They can move back to N.Y. after they get out of jail.

Sadly, Trump has the power to pardon all of them.

calimary

(81,220 posts)
30. Except if it's a state crime, like the case that New York prosecutor
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 10:48 AM
Aug 2017

is putting together. trump could pardon for crimes at the federal level. But he can't do it for a crime at the state level.

And as I understand it, even if there's a pardon issued, the recipient can still be compelled to testify and can't take the 5th. They'd simply have to cough it all up. Which would be rather problematic, I suspect. Especially for the pardoner.

no_hypocrisy

(46,087 posts)
6. Hubris.
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 08:23 AM
Aug 2017

I believe that both Ivanka and Jared like the idea that they are in fact running the country, and without consequences.

Power is addictive and it's hard to give it up.

Girard442

(6,070 posts)
10. Nepotism richly deserves the bad reputation it has.
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 08:33 AM
Aug 2017

He can't function without them, you say? Well, he isn't functioning with them.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
12. I think a prison cell in NY for each of them
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 08:43 AM
Aug 2017

Will suffice.

Mueller won't suffer fools, and these elitists certainly qualify as fool's fools.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
16. Plus he helped
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 09:09 AM
Aug 2017

get tRump into office, with free publicity. tRump calld in almost daily, and Schmo welcomed the interruptions. He was a big booster until recently. I want tRump to have to pay back the treasury for the millions of $$$ it has cost taxpayers for his numerous vacations, plus his useless kids protection.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
37. Exactly. Fk Joe Scarborough. I think he just
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 02:50 PM
Aug 2017

did the turning from R to I as a publicity stunt for attention, as well as to promote his album release.

All the awful crap Trump was known to have done and said, and they were fine with him. Only when he said some awful stuff about them did they find him objectionable.

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
19. Joe even talked about getting Pat Buchannan back on his show.
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 09:18 AM
Aug 2017

He talked about missing him. Won't ever watch his show again if that happens. I noticed Eugene Robinson stayed silent when Joe talked about bringing Buchannan back.

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
32. I saw that despicable segment this morning.
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 10:59 AM
Aug 2017

Joe's ego is as big as Trump's and all Mika did to express a difference of opinion was 'mouth' it to the camera.
I suspect Robinson didn't know what to say without causing Joe to blather even more. It was an offensive segment by both the suggestion to bring that racist, sexist, homophobe back to teevee and Joe's "Federalist Society - I'm Smarter Than Everyone' smug attitude.

Skittles

(153,150 posts)
38. the entire family has been exposed as a bunch of frauds
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 04:26 PM
Aug 2017

remember when Melania was considered to be a HIGHLY EDUCATED woman?

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