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ecstatic

(32,685 posts)
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 08:22 PM Aug 2017

What would you do if trump eliminated presidential term limits?


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Encourage President Obama to run again and serve 20 more years
10 (91%)
Assume the fix is in and fight like hell to get term limits reinstated
0 (0%)
Leave the country
0 (0%)
Not sure
1 (9%)
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What would you do if trump eliminated presidential term limits? (Original Post) ecstatic Aug 2017 OP
I'd force myself to wake up htuttle Aug 2017 #1
He cannot over turn a CONSTUTIONAL AMENDMENT 22nd amendment. irisblue Aug 2017 #2
You left out an important option: fleur-de-lisa Aug 2017 #3
Yep, that's my ONLY option furtheradu Aug 2017 #6
Oy vey unblock Aug 2017 #4
He can't. It would require an amendment to the Constitution. Lil Missy Aug 2017 #5
March, by the tens of millions. (n/t) FreepFryer Aug 2017 #7
I'm not worried about it because he can't. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2017 #8
26 of the 34 states necessary to call a constitutional convention Gabi Hayes Aug 2017 #13
See? Gabi Hayes Aug 2017 #15
A constitutional convention can only propose amendments onenote Aug 2017 #17
I know; isn't that what I said? Gabi Hayes Aug 2017 #20
Christ, I laughed when GOPers started this junk with Obama. Why do we have Hoyt Aug 2017 #9
Exactly Grassy Knoll Aug 2017 #10
Careful what you wish for rock Aug 2017 #11
He can't. Silly OP IMO. Agschmid Aug 2017 #12
Well it was in jest, but ecstatic Aug 2017 #18
Take it to the streets Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2017 #14
I'd wonder what happened to the Constitution onenote Aug 2017 #16
He'd still be a one term president. egduj Aug 2017 #19

htuttle

(23,738 posts)
1. I'd force myself to wake up
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 08:28 PM
Aug 2017

...since that isn't possible in the real world. Trump can't eliminate presidential term limits anymore than he can fly.

furtheradu

(1,865 posts)
6. Yep, that's my ONLY option
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 08:34 PM
Aug 2017

Tho I realize if he tried it, martial law would likely be in effect. At that point, for me, nuthin left to lose.

unblock

(52,196 posts)
4. Oy vey
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 08:30 PM
Aug 2017

I'm looking forward to the midterms; it barely makes sense to talk about 2020. I'm really not focused on Benedict Donald running for a third term in 2024.

Besides, no way we're getting that constitutional amendment passed.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
13. 26 of the 34 states necessary to call a constitutional convention
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 10:41 PM
Aug 2017

are on board

Thirty five governors are now Repub

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
15. See?
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 10:51 PM
Aug 2017

A Billionaire-Backed 'Movement' Is Dangerously Close to Calling a Constitutional Convention

The group hopes to mandate voter ID and dismantle public education, among other goals.

http://www.alternet.org/right-wing/billionaire-backed-movement-dangerously-close-calling-constitutional-convention

Read Democracy in Chains

It's all there

Been in the works for 60+ years:

At the center of MacLean’s book is Nobel Prize-winning economist James McGill Buchanan, who died in 2013 at age 93. Largely bankrolled by Charles Koch and other deep-pocketed misanthropic libertarians throughout most of his career from the mid-1950s onward, Buchanan latched onto public choice theory to become its leading promoter. Buchananassumed self-interest primarilymotivated politicians, bureaucrats, union organizers, civil rights activists, and others, MacLean says. He cast public service in a deeply cynical light and denigrated the idea of “we the people” and the common good. Where the common good leads, Buchanan thought, is to an out-of-control government that destroys individual liberty.

The movement’s ultimate goal is capitalism free from government interference, and a government essentially stripped to maintaining law and order and national defense. Its adherents want to privatize most public services, especially public schools and Social Security. They have adopted the language of conservatism, and have successfully hijacked the Republican Party in the process, but they are not conservative in the traditional sense. Most people would not support the movement’s extreme libertarian vision if its adherents didn’t couch it in appeals to a benign personal freedom.

The final prescription of Buchanan’s career was “constitutional revolution”—a rewriting of the rulebook to unleash free-market fundamentalism and prevent majorities of voters from ever being able to effect change. This revolution would turn the Constitution’s checks and balances into locks and bolts, and can be heard in present-day calls by Republican governors and legislators for a convention of the states to amend the Constitution.


https://www.kirkusreviews.com/features/nancy-maclean/

onenote

(42,694 posts)
17. A constitutional convention can only propose amendments
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 11:57 PM
Aug 2017

It still takes ratification by 3/4 of the states to change the Constitution. That's 38 states. In addition, while there may be 35 repub governors, the repubs control both houses of the state legislatures and the governorship (i.e. the necessary trifecta to push through a demand for a constitutional convention) in only 28 states.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
20. I know; isn't that what I said?
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 12:49 AM
Aug 2017
http://www.alternet.org/right-wing/billionaire-backed-movement-dangerously-close-calling-constitutional-convention

After an active start to 2017, proponents are now allegedly seven states away from reaching the needed 34 states (two-thirds) to convene a convention. According to Article V, which lays out all the ways the constitution can be amended, any amendments proposed by the convention would then need to be ratified by 38 (three-fourths) of the states.
In an email sent to supporters, Mark Meckler, a professional Tea Party campaigner for COS, said, “when we succeed in getting 34 states to pass our legislation, a convention will be called where the states can propose amendments to…

Get the federal government out of our healthcare system.
Impose term limits on Congress.
Balance the budget.
Mandate nationwide voter ID.
Take back our education systems.
Limit federal power."


did you read the article?

scares the crap out of me

Even scarier....rules made up on the spot;
Anything can happen:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/10/21/a-constitutional-convention-could-be-the-single-most-dangerous-way-to-fix-american-government/?tid=a_inl-amp&utm_term=.cbe561169bb1
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
9. Christ, I laughed when GOPers started this junk with Obama. Why do we have
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 09:51 PM
Aug 2017

to act/sound like them?

ecstatic

(32,685 posts)
18. Well it was in jest, but
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 12:16 AM
Aug 2017

Trump doesn't appear to care about the constitution. He thinks of the presidency like a dictatorship. I assume he'd be stopped somehow, but by who and how long would the process take?

onenote

(42,694 posts)
16. I'd wonder what happened to the Constitution
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 11:46 PM
Aug 2017

since it doesn't give the President the power to eliminate presidential term limits, something that I would have assumed everyone here knew.

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