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Dang it......thought they'd vote for the union...... (Original Post) a kennedy Aug 2017 OP
They will live to cilla4progress Aug 2017 #1
Bummer. Tactical Peek Aug 2017 #2
Sucks. Liberal In Texas Aug 2017 #3
Happens all the time unions typically don't have these votes until after determning the votes were standingtall Aug 2017 #4
Also... Mississippi. The Deep South has always been very hard to organize. politicat Aug 2017 #6
Huge miscalculation MichMan Aug 2017 #7
Landslide MichMan Aug 2017 #5
Big mistake on their part. n/t whathehell Aug 2017 #8
Now that I am represented by a union, I cannot imagine ever leaving my job. Laffy Kat Aug 2017 #9
In deep, rural South, workers fear returning to days when there were no jobs this good. Hoyt Aug 2017 #10
The truth is that it isn't an irrational fear. Companies can, and do, pick up and leave if they AJT Aug 2017 #11
Not even close BainsBane Aug 2017 #12
Soon enough they will all be temp Kelly labor with no say kacekwl Aug 2017 #13

standingtall

(2,785 posts)
4. Happens all the time unions typically don't have these votes until after determning the votes were
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 01:10 AM
Aug 2017

there,but then the company has about 6 weeks to apply pressure and scare workers into voting against it.

politicat

(9,808 posts)
6. Also... Mississippi. The Deep South has always been very hard to organize.
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 01:22 AM
Aug 2017

Call it "economic anxiety", but there's a long history of the white patrician class using race to divide the working class, and dangling potential entry into the lower gentry to white crafts and trades workers as a means of keeping them from organizing. (In some areas, as an example, a daughter will not be admitted to a Cotillion if her father is in a union, and Cotillion still matters for some people.)

My BIL in a neighboring state would significantly benefit from a Machinists or Teamsters union in his shop, but that gun-humping, survivalist, goldbugging RWNJ would sooner chew off his own foot than voluntarily join a union.

NissanUSA deserves some of the blame, but I'm not sure how much of it. Since the UAW is having a hell of a time with their own membership in their own strongholds in the upper Midwest, new territories are a harder battle.

MichMan

(11,912 posts)
7. Huge miscalculation
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 01:26 AM
Aug 2017

Big miscalculation by the UAW. You don't usually call for an election unless you think you have a very good shot of winning. With the vote against being nearly 65-35 %, they severely overestimated their level of support

MichMan

(11,912 posts)
5. Landslide
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 01:17 AM
Aug 2017

Wow, vote wasn't even close.

Wonder what effect the recent criminal charges against the widow of a top UAW official who conspired with FCA execs to embezzle hundreds of thousands might have had?

Laffy Kat

(16,377 posts)
9. Now that I am represented by a union, I cannot imagine ever leaving my job.
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 01:34 AM
Aug 2017

Why do people vote against their own interests again and again?

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
10. In deep, rural South, workers fear returning to days when there were no jobs this good.
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 01:56 AM
Aug 2017

Probably irrational, but it's a fear I can understand.

AJT

(5,240 posts)
11. The truth is that it isn't an irrational fear. Companies can, and do, pick up and leave if they
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 02:46 AM
Aug 2017

can find cheaper labor else where. In this global economy I don't know what the answer is.

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