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TDale313

(7,820 posts)
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 01:17 AM Aug 2017

What Dems need most is a strong, plain coherent message

That values social and economic justice. It's not an either/or thing. And we need messengers who can deliver that message and be authentic and credible doing it. Goes for all levels, but yes, for whoever ends up getting the nomination next time it's essential. No candidate is perfect, but voters will tolerate a lot of policy differences if they generally trust the messenger and if it feels like there is an actual vision.

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What Dems need most is a strong, plain coherent message (Original Post) TDale313 Aug 2017 OP
So SOME Democrats are still not getting the message underthematrix Aug 2017 #1
Millions of Americans aren't getting that message. We need to change our communication style. yardwork Aug 2017 #5
That is one thing we can take from the other side Bettie Aug 2017 #10
I believe we had that. Doodley Aug 2017 #2
I believe we have a GREAT platform and GREAT policies. But I think the OP is right Squinch Aug 2017 #3
Oppressing women, minorities, immigrants and poor people sells. Orsino Aug 2017 #6
I agree.... Adrahil Aug 2017 #14
Thank you. You put it better than I did. TDale313 Aug 2017 #12
I agree. We need to make big promises. yardwork Aug 2017 #4
What Dems need most is to be allowed to vote. L. Coyote Aug 2017 #7
Yes. True. TDale313 Aug 2017 #9
Well, there is that Bettie Aug 2017 #11
Bingo Achilleaze Aug 2017 #8
There is one, already. It's the Democratic Party Platform. MineralMan Aug 2017 #13
No. Average people don't read platforms. We need something, like Squinch Aug 2017 #15
Yes. Slogans are good, but serious people go beyond those MineralMan Aug 2017 #16
Yes. Absolutely. WE are serious. But if we learn nothing else from 2016, let's learn that Squinch Aug 2017 #17
Sorry, most voters do not LeftInTX Aug 2017 #19
We can have the best platform in the world, but marketing it is very important. LeftInTX Aug 2017 #20
We need to hire more advertisers, marketing people etc. LeftInTX Aug 2017 #18

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
1. So SOME Democrats are still not getting the message
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 01:21 AM
Aug 2017

that voting Republican means no healthcare no clean water no clean air no education no research no abortion no LGTB rights no voter rights, no green economy, no living wage jobs, no infrastructure and on and on.

Damn

Bettie

(16,072 posts)
10. That is one thing we can take from the other side
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 09:28 AM
Aug 2017

and mold to our uses.

We need strong, consistent messaging in small, easy to remember phrases and get everyone who ever steps in front of a camera to use the same words, to reinforce it. Over and over so it is something stuck in their heads like an ear worm.

Squinch

(50,911 posts)
3. I believe we have a GREAT platform and GREAT policies. But I think the OP is right
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 08:37 AM
Aug 2017

because I am realizing that few, even here, know what that platform and those policies are.

I love reading that kind of stuff. Maybe you do too, but most people don't. We need something that summarizes for those people what they can expect from us.

This is not a problem with any single Democrat. It's a problem with ALL democratic messaging for many years. Most of the country STILL sees the R's as the party of financial responsibility and fiscal security, and most of the country STILL doesn't understand that the progressive policies in the Democratic platform actually SAVE the taxpayer tons of money and create jobs and opportunities while R policies dependably kill them.

We need a PR team, and a good one.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
6. Oppressing women, minorities, immigrants and poor people sells.
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 08:46 AM
Aug 2017

It even appears strong and coherent, alas, to pinheads, and fits on bumper stickers.

Until voters understand that solving problems means work, to many will be lulled by the easy non-answers of the Right.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
14. I agree....
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 10:13 AM
Aug 2017

Trump telles them he can solve problems he can't and most of all, all the problems are the fault of those "other" people.

He just lies.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
12. Thank you. You put it better than I did.
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 09:31 AM
Aug 2017

As you said, this isn't about any one Democrat. It's about your average voter who doesn't pay the kind of attention we do being able to say in a few sentences "This is what Dems are about" There already are more of us than there are them. Get past this hurdle and there's so many on board it's really hard to steal because it's no longer being fought in the margins.

yardwork

(61,538 posts)
4. I agree. We need to make big promises.
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 08:43 AM
Aug 2017

The Democratic Party needs to say to voters:

Everybody will get excellent health care.

Young people will get relief from crushing college debt.

We will raise the minimum wage to a living wage.

We will legalize marijuana.

Those four promises - made over and over in consistent, strong, sound bite terms - will win elections. It's how Trump won.

MineralMan

(146,254 posts)
13. There is one, already. It's the Democratic Party Platform.
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 09:58 AM
Aug 2017

You can read a pdf copy of it here:

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/papers_pdf/117717.pdf

It will be the Party Platform until it is replaced with the 2020 version at the national convention that summer.

Squinch

(50,911 posts)
15. No. Average people don't read platforms. We need something, like
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 11:47 AM
Aug 2017

"New Deal" or "Fair Deal" or, God help us, "MAGA" to gut punch the voter with the summarized end goal of our platform, and put us in their heads as the ones who stand for them.

I love the platform. It's revolutionary. It solves all the problems that the idiots who voted for Trump(R) say they have, and it does it in a practical way. But even here on DU, there are too many who obviously have never read it.

MineralMan

(146,254 posts)
16. Yes. Slogans are good, but serious people go beyond those
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 11:50 AM
Aug 2017

and read documents like our Party Platform. I encourage everyone here on DU to do that. We ARE serious people, right? I know that I am. I have read the entire platform, and have a copy on my PC for reference.

I take this stuff seriously.

Squinch

(50,911 posts)
17. Yes. Absolutely. WE are serious. But if we learn nothing else from 2016, let's learn that
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 11:52 AM
Aug 2017

too many out there are NOT serious, and like it or not, we need them.

LeftInTX

(25,126 posts)
19. Sorry, most voters do not
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 12:02 PM
Aug 2017

They watch the debates, prime-time parts of the convention, read the paper and watch some cable news. In the end, most go with their guts.

This is how they make their decisions.




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