So what happens if Mueller indicts Trump and Trump responds by firing him and pardoning himself?

[NewsCenter28]

Ken Starr apparently said tonight that indicting and trying a sitting president is entirely appropriate. So that got me thinking: What would Congress do if Trump responded in the above fashion? Also, would the Supreme Court perhaps rule the pardon unconstitutional?

[The_REAL_Ecumenist]

1. I would say this would happen...

FLAMING SH!T+ a BIGASS FAN x HOLY HELL!! period.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

2. I'm pretty sure Trump can't pardon himself.

So that's a non starter. And I believe Trump's hands are tied in respect to firing Mueller.

So, guess what? Mueller could at least hypothetically indict Trump, and then we'll all start popping the popcorn.

[PoliticAverse]

3. Most likely the Supreme Court would find (9-0 even) Trump can't pardon himself. n/t

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[beachbum bob]

4. impeachment.... as to have a pardon admits criminal wrong doing

[burnbaby]

5. doesn't it go to congress for a vote?

Isn't that what happened to Clinton? Congress voted to impeach but the senate voted it down. End of story

[annabanana]

7. Time to brush-up!

Impeachment is analogous to indictment in regular court proceedings; trial by the other house is analogous to the trial before judge and jury in regular courts. Typically, the lower house of the legislature impeaches the official and the upper house conducts the trial.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_in_the_United_States

[Cosmocat]

6. He's absolutely going to pardon

Anyone who could be a threat to implicate him, first off, particularly his family members.

Part of why people are completely dreaming if they think he's going to resign.

And, why would he not pardon himself. He has no shame, cant stoop any lower.

[annabanana]

8. In order to "pardon" himself, he has to admit wrong doing..

How many think he's capable of THAT?

[karynnj]

9. Don't think it would happen, but that would be so blatant the House and Senate

might impeach and throw out respectively. Remember they get Pence - so it is not like losing the Presidency for them.

[LostOne4Ever]

10. Article 2 section 2 forbids pardons in cases of impeachment. Nt

[WinkyDink]

11. Can't pardon himself. You think Nixon, GHWB, and Bill didn't think of this?

[Ruby the Liberal]

12. If there was legal ground for self-pardons

(especially in the Gerald Ford version of "any crimes that might have been committed" vein), then what would stop future Presidents from blanket pardoning themselves immediately after inauguration?

Every day, it becomes more apparent that what we long accepted as laws are merely norms or traditions, but one can hope that this one is a bridge too far.

[GreenEyedLefty]

13. Congress will reinstate Mueller and there would be lawsuits

challenging the President's ability to self-pardon in the face of irrefutable evidence of wrongdoing.

Most likely it appears IMO the President has obstructed justice - so far he seems to be in the clear as far as direct collusion. (So far.)

[tblue37]

14. Don't forget Schneiderman. Trump weould be impeached, his self pardon would not

stand, but even if it did, he couln't pardon himserlf for state level crimes.

[dalton99a]

15. I don't think the Supreme Court would intervene unless he's indicted