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Tue Aug 8, 2017, 12:16 PM

 

Wonkette: Oh go fuck yourself, Glenn Greenwald

https://wonkette.com/621347/oh-go-fuck-yourself-glenn-greenwald


Greenwald, who likes to remind his readers every now and then (constantly) that he really really really really really doesn’t like America, and who is in theory a liberal who embraces liberal values, but totally isn’t, is just not sure whether Donald Trump’s plans to rip healthcare away from millions, deport the fuck out of every brown-skinned person he sees, and so on, are worse than the generals — Mattis, McMaster and Kelly — SUBVERTING TRUMP’S AGENDA by sneakily getting appointed to sweet-ass cabinet and White House positions by Donald Trump, and then sort of trying to rein in some of President Fuck-Bonkers’s most dangerous tendencies.

Oh and he’s mad about the Deep State, because of course he is. Greenwald spends a lot of his column beating a straw man to death, claiming that all the sane people who HAAAAAATE Trump, many of them conservatives who worked tirelessly to keep him from getting elected, and who have been in “COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY, MOTHERFUCKERS” mode since Greenwald’s pals at WikiLeaks and the Russians he is SO IN LOVE WITH (he would deny that accusation, but ya know, actions speak louder than words, and also fuck him) helped Trump get elected, think Greenwald and his weirdo friends are dumb for believing there is a “Deep State.” This is a false construct. We very much know there is a Deep State, and we know it makes Greenwald and Sean Hannity shit the bed, so we make fun of them about it.

But he’s really really confused about which is worse: that Trump is in office and beating the shit out of American institutions and the Constitution, or that the so-called Deep State (normal people refer to them as “career public servants”) is trying its damnedest to protect the Republic from Trump’s damage. The horrors! It reminds us of that thing Anthony Scaramucci whined during his 120-some-odd-hour tenure as White House Communications Director, about how there are some White House staffers who “think it is their job to save America from this president.” It’s almost as if there is a wide consensus among thinking Americans that the traditions we hold dear are in danger, and that we should do something about it. (Also, to all those people, thank you!)

But Greenwald can’t abide that, because how DARE the Deep State Military-CIA-Industrial Complex act all high and mighty like they for real care about protecting America from the authoritarian dipshit in the White House, when it’s very clear that #BothSidesDoIt anyway? How could Donald Trump possibly be more evil than the United States Of America has always been since forever?


See also: "The Alt-Right and Glenn Greenwald vs H.R. McMaster:

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/08/the-alt-right-and-glenn-greenwald-versus-h-r-mcmaster.html

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Reply Wonkette: Oh go fuck yourself, Glenn Greenwald (Original post)
geek tragedy Aug 2017 OP
50 Shades Of Blue Aug 2017 #1
onit2day Aug 2017 #19
geek tragedy Aug 2017 #22
Hamlette Aug 2017 #27
maxsolomon Aug 2017 #33
ChubbyStar Aug 2017 #35
haele Aug 2017 #29
bloom Aug 2017 #36
stonecutter357 Aug 2017 #32
Progressive dog Aug 2017 #44
50 Shades Of Blue Aug 2017 #48
Weekend Warrior Aug 2017 #49
Ninsianna Aug 2017 #62
BootinUp Aug 2017 #2
alcibiades_mystery Aug 2017 #3
Post removed Aug 2017 #21
Progressive dog Aug 2017 #45
SunSeeker Aug 2017 #4
Gothmog Aug 2017 #5
MineralMan Aug 2017 #6
paulkienitz Aug 2017 #7
not fooled Aug 2017 #52
ismnotwasm Aug 2017 #8
byronius Aug 2017 #9
librechik Aug 2017 #10
BadgerMom Aug 2017 #14
hlthe2b Aug 2017 #11
lapucelle Aug 2017 #12
mcar Aug 2017 #13
BadgerMom Aug 2017 #15
Scurrilous Aug 2017 #16
radical noodle Aug 2017 #17
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onit2day Aug 2017 #20
Foamfollower Aug 2017 #28
brush Aug 2017 #40
uponit7771 Aug 2017 #41
BannonsLiver Aug 2017 #42
Scurrilous Aug 2017 #51
Ninsianna Aug 2017 #63
Bradical79 Aug 2017 #66
FairWinds Aug 2017 #23
geek tragedy Aug 2017 #25
maddiemom Aug 2017 #31
FairWinds Aug 2017 #57
Ninsianna Aug 2017 #64
FairWinds Aug 2017 #67
Dark n Stormy Knight Aug 2017 #60
maddiemom Aug 2017 #24
GoCubsGo Aug 2017 #30
bloom Aug 2017 #37
Kurovski Aug 2017 #38
maddiemom Aug 2017 #56
rpannier Aug 2017 #50
SkyDaddy7 Aug 2017 #54
Mickju Aug 2017 #26
dalton99a Aug 2017 #34
Blue_Tires Aug 2017 #39
Tarheel_Dem Aug 2017 #43
hrmjustin Aug 2017 #46
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JHan Aug 2017 #53
betsuni Aug 2017 #55
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Blue_Tires Aug 2017 #59
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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Tue Aug 8, 2017, 12:16 PM

1. Wonkette has a real way with words!

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Response to 50 Shades Of Blue (Reply #1)

Tue Aug 8, 2017, 01:52 PM

19. lol. Greenwald is the most intelligent man

 

in our discourse today and is great at exposing America's hypocrisy but seems everyone wants him to take their side. He has always been informative and outstanding in his investigations. Sounds like someone got their feelings hurt. I don't like a lot of stuff Greenwald says but he is definitely worth listening to.

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Response to onit2day (Reply #19)

Tue Aug 8, 2017, 01:59 PM

22. do you share his belief that career public servants in the federal civil service

 

should be more loyal to Donald Trump than they are to the rule of law, our democracy, and the constitution?

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Response to onit2day (Reply #19)

Tue Aug 8, 2017, 02:17 PM

27. Greenwood and Bannon are cut of the same cloth

Smart enough, but too in love with their hair brained ideas to know it's all BS

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Response to Hamlette (Reply #27)

Tue Aug 8, 2017, 03:03 PM

33. hare-brained

like a rabbit

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Response to maxsolomon (Reply #33)

Tue Aug 8, 2017, 04:00 PM

35. I like hair brained

Reminds me of tRump!

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Response to onit2day (Reply #19)

Tue Aug 8, 2017, 02:28 PM

29. Greenwald is a at best a contrarian. He thrives on disruption of systems, progressive or not.

There's a big problem with people like Greenwald who live to "expose hypocrisy" and "tear down/cut out the rot" - especially when they're intelligent or are part of the "intelligentsia" when it comes to social and political discourse.
They tend to be Manichean; and love to blindly use the meat cleavers while proving their philosophy, their morals, their ethics are the right ones.

They never pay attention to the majority of average people who are just trying to survive and might be slow to change a political, social, or economic system they're familiar with. The "Dragon Slayers" have already decided anyone who says "well, wait a minute, let's look at the entire situation and see what will make a positive difference for everyone in the long run..." is against them and is part of the corrupt system.

I've read Greenwald's books until he got to the point I started channeling my inner Dorothy Parker. He's no Stieglitz or Chomsky, and never was in a political sense. He writes better than Ayn Rand, but they're not that much different at heart. Even when he was the "Liberal Darling" during the Bush Era, he was still writing more Anti-American Society screed than Anti-Bush screed.

Back during the Bush years, he wanted his version new, improved Strong Man/Hero of the Peoples in charge, not the GOP Business interests. He was always pointing out the "stupidity" or "complacency" of the electorate - that means you and me who vote for whatever our own ethics and interests drive us to vote.

Ultimately, Greenwald has shown he's a Leninist, like Bannon. Tear it all down, start over, - he's just "kinder and gentler" because he "cares" about the little guys and the downtrodden masses - but in reality, he's really just another Authoritarian who wants to tell other people the best way to live rather than deal the messy real world that most of us have to live in.
No Diplomacy, No "Consideration", and certainly no reconsideration. He's so smart he's never wrong, and you're a corrupt enabler for even suggesting he's not thinking things through...

Haele


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Response to haele (Reply #29)

Tue Aug 8, 2017, 04:10 PM

36. I think this sums GG up quite well. n/t

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Response to onit2day (Reply #19)

Tue Aug 8, 2017, 03:01 PM

32. Seems Legit lol.

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Response to onit2day (Reply #19)

Tue Aug 8, 2017, 05:10 PM

44. No one wants Greenwald on their side

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Response to onit2day (Reply #19)

Tue Aug 8, 2017, 07:31 PM

48. Greenwald can go pound sand as far as I've been concernef for a long time.

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Response to onit2day (Reply #19)

Tue Aug 8, 2017, 07:34 PM

49. You can keep him on your side. Nt

 

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Response to onit2day (Reply #19)

Wed Aug 9, 2017, 04:06 PM

62. Nope. He's not very intelligent and he's not terribly great at his

"investigations" or his disinformation.

He's really not worth listening to, it's the same stuff that Putin's other outlets are releasing at the same time.

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Tue Aug 8, 2017, 12:25 PM

2. Holy moly...that made my morning.

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Tue Aug 8, 2017, 12:34 PM

3. Greenwald is a Russian agent

 

The whole outrage act is just his little assignment.

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Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #3)

Tue Aug 8, 2017, 05:12 PM

45. I think you're right

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Tue Aug 8, 2017, 12:44 PM

4. K & R

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Tue Aug 8, 2017, 12:59 PM

5. Who cares what Greenwald thinks?

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Tue Aug 8, 2017, 01:00 PM

6. Bravo!

Let Glenn have it!

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Tue Aug 8, 2017, 01:06 PM

7. back in the day, I never could figure out what Greenwald's trip was

His agenda didn't make sense to me. But when you notice Mr. Putin, things clarify.

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Response to paulkienitz (Reply #7)

Tue Aug 8, 2017, 11:35 PM

52. Yeah

he's lost credibility with me over his um, appreciation of the Russkies.

Bye, Glenn.

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Tue Aug 8, 2017, 01:08 PM

8. K&R

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Tue Aug 8, 2017, 01:14 PM

9. Love the Wonkette.

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Tue Aug 8, 2017, 01:18 PM

10. I am haunted by that Scaramucci remark about some are in WH to save us from Trump

he said that as if it were something bad.

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Tue Aug 8, 2017, 01:21 PM

11. Excellent takedown. n/t

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Tue Aug 8, 2017, 01:22 PM

12. Greenwald's platform, The Intercept, is also

the original purveyor of the recent troubling tales concerning Kamala Harris.

Here's an eye opening account of what's really going on with the alt left's breathless claim that "Kamala Harris is in Steve Mnuchin's Pocket!" that reviews the whole recommendation memo rather than simply the cherry picked parts that cunningly cast the former CA attorney general in the most damaging possible light.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/1687354

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3250383-OneWest-Package-Memo.html

Wasn't there talk about The Intercept being involved in the falsified documents that were sent to Rachel Maddow?

I'm generally suspicious when they are the only/original source for damning stories about Democratic figures.

Caveat lector.

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Tue Aug 8, 2017, 01:23 PM

13. K&R

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Tue Aug 8, 2017, 01:24 PM

15. K & R

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Tue Aug 8, 2017, 01:38 PM

16. K&R

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Tue Aug 8, 2017, 01:38 PM

17. Poor Glenn

He must be so worried that life time public servants will save the country and ruin the revolution.



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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Tue Aug 8, 2017, 01:40 PM

18. GreenwaldSnowdenPutin

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Response to brush (Reply #18)

Tue Aug 8, 2017, 01:56 PM

20. Propaganda. Neither of these two support Putin

 

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Response to onit2day (Reply #20)

Tue Aug 8, 2017, 02:22 PM

28. BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

oh,...

you were serious...

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Response to onit2day (Reply #20)

Tue Aug 8, 2017, 04:31 PM

40. Snowden is supported by Putin and Greenwald helped get him there...

then parlayed/used the Snowden matter into a media deal for himself.

Poor Eddie, with friends like that, who needs...

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Response to onit2day (Reply #20)

Tue Aug 8, 2017, 04:33 PM

41. Where does Snowden live TO THIS DAY?!

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Response to onit2day (Reply #20)

Tue Aug 8, 2017, 04:34 PM

42. How's the weather in Minsk?

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Response to onit2day (Reply #20)

Tue Aug 8, 2017, 11:01 PM

51. LOL

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Response to onit2day (Reply #20)

Wed Aug 9, 2017, 04:08 PM

63. They do deal in propaganda, and they're supported BY Putin.

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Response to onit2day (Reply #20)

Wed Aug 9, 2017, 04:39 PM

66. He minimizes, ignores, and lies about Russia's role

I don't know that he ezplicitly loves Putin, but he does hate American imperialism so much that he's willing to lie for our enemies. It ends up being indistinguishable from working for our president's buddy.

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Tue Aug 8, 2017, 02:03 PM

23. I'd pay more attention to the Wonkette if she . .

 

gave a clear, accurate summary of Greenwald's views,
and explained why they are wrong.

And stop with the shock ridiculous overuse of obscenities.

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Response to FairWinds (Reply #23)

Tue Aug 8, 2017, 02:08 PM

25. Greenwald is peddling the Breitbart/alt-right myth that a "deep state"

 

is nefariously undermining Donald Trump.

It's patent nonsense. Donald Trump is unfit for the office, and the institutions are resisting his authoritarian and reckless impulses, as they should in a government that observes rule of law.

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Response to FairWinds (Reply #23)

Tue Aug 8, 2017, 02:40 PM

31. In some cases, it's hard to "overuse obscenities."

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Response to maddiemom (Reply #31)

Wed Aug 9, 2017, 09:19 AM

57. I wonder if she talks that way in front of her

 

(or others') kids.

It makes her seem uneducated, as it did me back in the
day when I also talked that way.

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Response to FairWinds (Reply #57)

Wed Aug 9, 2017, 04:09 PM

64. When it gets to the gender shaming, it's clear that the truth hurts.

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Response to Ninsianna (Reply #64)

Thu Aug 10, 2017, 02:45 PM

67. Of course it goes without saying . .

 

that males should not drop F-Bombs either.

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Response to maddiemom (Reply #31)

Wed Aug 9, 2017, 03:36 PM

60. Lol, yep. And I don't think we've yet invented words

obscene enough to describe Trump and his cronies.

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Tue Aug 8, 2017, 02:08 PM

24. For a while there,

I wondered if I was the only one who was sick of Greenwald. Then again, I felt the same about Jill Stein, and Jimmy Dorn of TYT, and, often Ted Rall (hits it right without self-rightiousness about 10% of the time). Some relief, always, when finding ANYONE who agrees.

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Response to maddiemom (Reply #24)

Tue Aug 8, 2017, 02:32 PM

30. I got sick of him years ago.

So much that I have long had his name on "auto trash", along with Julian Assange--another one cut from that same bolt of cloth. Except that auto-trash no longer seems to be working...

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Response to maddiemom (Reply #24)

Tue Aug 8, 2017, 04:13 PM

37. yeah - it concerns me - the folks who still follow him (and trust him) :( n/t

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Response to maddiemom (Reply #24)

Tue Aug 8, 2017, 04:17 PM

38. I think his name is Jimmy Dore.

I like both wonkette AND Greenwald.

Why do mommy and daddy fight? Was it something I did?

Even more than Greenwald, I love reading the comments section of the Intercept. It's remarkably intelligent, considering how comment sections can devolve into obscene and witless lunacy.

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Response to Kurovski (Reply #38)

Wed Aug 9, 2017, 08:57 AM

56. Sorry; stand corrected.

No doubt about Greenwald's intelligence; then, again, there's I.Q. and E.Q (emotional quotient can curb asshole-like tendencies).

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Response to maddiemom (Reply #24)

Tue Aug 8, 2017, 10:04 PM

50. His putin apologism is what lost me with Greenwald

Talk about a useful idiot

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Response to maddiemom (Reply #24)

Wed Aug 9, 2017, 06:28 AM

54. YES! I totally agree!

I definitely remember a time here on DU when any criticism of Glenn Greenwald would be met with extreme wrath & scorn aimed at anyone who did! Glenn Greenwald does share characteristics w/Steven Bannon as others have pointed out on this thread. Plus, Greenwald has no problem telling half truths or just flat out lying about people he doesn't like. Whether one agrees with Sam Harris' views on Islam or not, it is a FACT that Glenn Greenwald used many of Sam's quotes completely out of context & flat out lied about Sam Harris many times. He was relentless in his attacks on Hillary during the 2016 election & when asked, (paraphrasing) "Is it fair or good journalism to put so much time & effort into going after Hillary's one scandal when Trump has 40 scandals brewing?" He answered, "I can pretty much point to every single aspect of Donald Trump’s personal, political, and financial life — it’s been dissected by great length and with great skill by the investigative reporting teams of the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times and Washington Post." ...He actually said that in September 2016 when the media had only been seriously looking into Trump for a few months after giving him huge amounts of positive coverage & free air time throughout the GOP Primaries & early into the General Election...While at the same time the media, and of course Greenwald himself had been beating the hell out of the long dead email horse!


Also, to me, Gleen Greenwald is one of those people who will take whoever's side is against America regardless of the issue or even if that means supporting authoritarians like Putin...They will spin it however they need to in order to justify it to themselves & others that America is always wrong.

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Tue Aug 8, 2017, 02:10 PM

26. Wonkette is one of my go to sites that I check every day.

I especially enjoy Evan Hurst.

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Tue Aug 8, 2017, 03:53 PM

34. Kick.

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Tue Aug 8, 2017, 04:24 PM

39. Hate to say I told you so....

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Tue Aug 8, 2017, 04:39 PM

43. F**k GG!

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Tue Aug 8, 2017, 05:18 PM

46. Greenwald like Snowden is anti-American!

 

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Tue Aug 8, 2017, 07:22 PM

47. "Oh go fuck yourself, Glenn Greenwald"

Loves me aome Wonkette


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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Wed Aug 9, 2017, 12:14 AM

53. K & R . Fabulous, expletive laden takedown of greenwald's assholery ...

....just what he deserves.

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Wed Aug 9, 2017, 08:49 AM

55. Yes, Greenwald and his weirdo friends are dumb.

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Wed Aug 9, 2017, 10:17 AM

58. Thank you geek

The Kochs, Hugh Hewitt, Rand Paul and all those who are "proud" alt-right posers of patriotism make me ill with loathing. They preach, yes, the cult of greed that puts self interest above that of all.

Greenwald, Assange and Wikileaks are nothing more than agent provocateurs. Like rump, they will end up in the infamous, forgotten column after their 15 seconds of fame.

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Wed Aug 9, 2017, 03:29 PM

59. Brilliance...

kick for truth...

I miss the old days when I'd post something unflattering about Greenwald and fifty DUers wanted to go to war with me... Fun times...





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Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #59)

Wed Aug 9, 2017, 03:42 PM

61. Those were the days eh

 

Glad to see his act isn't fooling people anymore. At least not nearly as many.

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Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #59)

Wed Aug 9, 2017, 04:20 PM

65. all 50 of those folks have relocated to the Troll Commune nt

 

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