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suffragette

(12,232 posts)
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 02:52 PM Aug 2017

So, the fired Google engineer immediately went crying to Breitbart

Telling, very telling.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/aug/08/google-employee-fired-diversity-row-considers-legal-action-james-damore

Damore has now said he would “likely be pursuing legal action”.

“I have a right to express my concerns about the terms and conditions of my working environment and to bring up potentially illegal behaviour, which is what my document does,” he said in an email reported by the New York Times.

In a further email to the rightwing website Breitbart, he reportedly said: “They just fired me for ‘perpetuating gender stereotypes’.”

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So, the fired Google engineer immediately went crying to Breitbart (Original Post) suffragette Aug 2017 OP
He also responded to the NYT email B2G Aug 2017 #1
Do you know they contacted him? Kingofalldems Aug 2017 #11
How do you know they didn't? B2G Aug 2017 #13
I know if Breitbart contacted me I wouldn't respond. Kingofalldems Aug 2017 #15
Not particularly. B2G Aug 2017 #17
That he emailed an actual news organization. Kingofalldems Aug 2017 #18
California is an "at will" employment state. Thanks Republicans Caliman73 Aug 2017 #2
Proof that being an engineer doesn't mean Phoenix61 Aug 2017 #3
There are a lot of one dimensional people out there Warpy Aug 2017 #9
Was proof required? Ninsianna Aug 2017 #16
My buddy's sister was run out of her medical group due to sexism. Willie Pep Aug 2017 #20
Yikes. Ninsianna Aug 2017 #21
James Damore, the Google employee fired for his anti-diversity manifesto, is (almost certainly) not RogerM Aug 2017 #4
That's a frequent error PSPS Aug 2017 #6
+1 dalton99a Aug 2017 #8
This guy sounds pretty damn stupid to be an engineer uponit7771 Aug 2017 #14
This guy is an idiot Gothmog Aug 2017 #5
He's a MRA-like idiot ismnotwasm Aug 2017 #7
His memo reads like the family-friendly version of Elliot Rodger's manifesto. LanternWaste Aug 2017 #10
Freedom of speech is not the same as freedom from consequences of speech. n/t CincyDem Aug 2017 #12
He also lied on his resume Starry Messenger Aug 2017 #19
Great find, Starry. Hmm, something about this makes me wonder if he was hoping to file suffragette Aug 2017 #22
What a whiny, pathetic little broflake! smirkymonkey Aug 2017 #23
 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
1. He also responded to the NYT email
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 02:56 PM
Aug 2017

I would imagine he's being contacted by every news outlet in the country.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
13. How do you know they didn't?
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 04:42 PM
Aug 2017

He may have, he might have been responding. It just makes sense to me that he's probably being flooded with requests for statements right now. Is that a reach?

Kingofalldems

(38,452 posts)
15. I know if Breitbart contacted me I wouldn't respond.
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 04:46 PM
Aug 2017

They are fake news. Yet he contacted them either directly or in response. Telling don't you think?

Caliman73

(11,735 posts)
2. California is an "at will" employment state. Thanks Republicans
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 02:59 PM
Aug 2017

That means that unless there is a specific written agreement between the employee and the company (Union contract or such), then the employer can fire the employee for any reason at all.

Looks like he is trying to paint himself as a whistle blower, except that he was arguing in the same direction that is part of Google's current problems with the State and Feds. Google is being looked into for discriminatory hiring practices against women and people of color. This guy appeared to be agreeing with Google's actual hiring practices while criticizing their stance on diversity in tech.

Warpy

(111,251 posts)
9. There are a lot of one dimensional people out there
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 03:56 PM
Aug 2017

who range from adequate to brilliant in their various, narrow fields. Once they stick a toe outside those fields, you are left hoping they have a keeper somewhere to help them stay out of serious trouble.

I can't despise this dumbass, I know how limited he is. I just with there weren't so many others just like him, making women working around him miserable.

Ninsianna

(1,349 posts)
16. Was proof required?
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 04:47 PM
Aug 2017

With the men sometimes the misogyny is almost a given, they can't handle the competition and it makes them whiny.

*not all male engineers, doctors etc. They're usually fine if they think they're better than their female fellows, but the second they find out different, out comes the ugly.

Willie Pep

(841 posts)
20. My buddy's sister was run out of her medical group due to sexism.
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 05:48 PM
Aug 2017

She is a doctor and according to her there is definitely a kind of "bro" culture among some male doctors.

Ninsianna

(1,349 posts)
21. Yikes.
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 06:01 PM
Aug 2017

I was bodily shoved out of the way during an anatomy class. Like some guy pushed me away from the dissection table with his girth. Deliberately. Not that he was going to deign to pick a scalpel or anything but he was going to ensure I couldn't see what the prof was showing us.

RogerM

(150 posts)
4. James Damore, the Google employee fired for his anti-diversity manifesto, is (almost certainly) not
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 03:16 PM
Aug 2017

James Damore, the Google employee fired for his anti-diversity manifesto, is (almost certainly) not a victim of a free-speech violation

The First Amendment protects Americans' free-speech rights from being restricted by the government, not their employer.
You don't have a right to use your company's computer system to publish your speech.
"Freedom of speech is the right to freely express an opinion. It is most assuredly not the right to express an opinion with freedom from the consequences."
Even California's pro-worker rules don't appear to protect James Damore, the Google employee who annoyed his colleagues with an anti-diversity manifesto.

http://www.businessinsider.com/james-damore-google-anti-diversity-manifesto-free-speech-2017-8

PSPS

(13,593 posts)
6. That's a frequent error
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 03:47 PM
Aug 2017

The first amendment, as you explain, involves only the actions of the government hindering one's utterances. It has nothing at all to do with anything beyond that. Many people erroneously believe that the first amendment somehow inhibits the ability of a private individual or company, such as facebook, youtube, etc., to control what they contain. It doesn't. If Zuckerberg and his ilk had any decency at all, they wouldn't carry the snuff and hate material they do. But, as far as they're concerned, all that matters is that they can make a profit off it.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
10. His memo reads like the family-friendly version of Elliot Rodger's manifesto.
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 04:04 PM
Aug 2017

His memo reads like the family-friendly version of Elliot Rodger's manifesto, relies on that same hand-me-down evo-psych-o'babble, and is predicated on the same lack of objective, peer-reviewed sources to support his, erm, premise.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
19. He also lied on his resume
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 05:40 PM
Aug 2017

Speaking of mediocrity being promoted above its level.

"On his LinkedIn profile, Damore lists a “PhD, Systems Biology” from Harvard in 2013. However, a representative from Harvard tells WIRED that Damore did not complete a PhD. He completed a master’s degree in systems biology in 2013."

https://www.wired.com/story/james-damore-author-google-memo-might-sue/

His lawsuit will be laughed out of court.

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
22. Great find, Starry. Hmm, something about this makes me wonder if he was hoping to file
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 06:35 PM
Aug 2017

A lawsuit. And did this to provoke the actions.

What an ass.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
23. What a whiny, pathetic little broflake!
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 06:42 PM
Aug 2017

Whaaaaaah! They won't let me be a sexist ass! It's all THEIR fault!

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